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Jake

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Hire this coach! Sign this free agent! Draft this guy! It's not about a guy here or there with this team, it starts at the top. It's a dysfunctional organization.

Jerry and Stephen Jones are unique. No other NFL team has the owner as GM and his son as Director of Player Personnel. This has been the arrangement in Dallas for 28 years. They have won four wild card games. That's it. That's all they have to show for it. They've fired more head coaches than playoff wins in that time.

Take a good hard look. These are the masterminds you're counting on after 28 years of trying. If you weren't a Cowboys fan, you'd laugh at them. They're a joke.

They aren't going to suddenly figure it out, they aren't going to quit while the money still rolls in, so accept 12-5. It's as good as it is going to get. Enjoy.

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FuzzyLumpkins

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An owner with final say is not new.

A owner's child in an executive position is not new.

An executive in charge of the scouts, in constant communication with the coaching staff, and under an owner who is final say is nothing new.

McClay is not called general manager and the owner is but that is really window dressing. Lurie, the Maras, Snyder before he got canned, and many other clubs have the same arrangement presented above but without the window dressing.

I also see very few discussions of how they lead to this insurmountable obstacle. The 500 lbs Gorrilla in the room is that Jerry has won multiple Super Bowls. The already specious reasoning becomes blatantly absurd.

Jerry has his problems but he contributes as well. He is not going anywhere so I see no point to whining about it much less to start doomcasting because of it.
 

ShiningStar

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An owner with final say is not new.

A owner's child in an executive position is not new.

An executive in charge of the scouts, in constant communication with the coaching staff, and under an owner who is final say is nothing new.

McClay is not called general manager and the owner is but that is really window dressing. Lurie, the Maras, Snyder before he got canned, and many other clubs have the same arrangement presented above but without the window dressing.

I also see very few discussions of how they lead to this insurmountable obstacle. The 500 lbs Gorrilla in the room is that Jerry has won multiple Super Bowls. The already specious reasoning becomes blatantly absurd.

Jerry has his problems but he contributes as well. He is not going anywhere so I see no point to whining about it much less to start doomcasting because of it.


how many does he have without sb winning coaches?

in fact, name a franchise that has fired more than 2 SB winning coaches?
 

FuzzyLumpkins

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how many does he have without sb winning coaches?

in fact, name a franchise that has fired more than 2 SB winning coaches?
Why does the answer to that question matter?

And :laugh: How many SB has he won without a SB winning coach? Really?

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FuzzyLumpkins

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as always you dodge the question.

thanks for playing.
My not answering your question only means you remain ignorant. If you want to make an argument go right ahead. At this point all we can conclude is that you don't like me.

What will I do?
 

ShiningStar

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My not answering your question only means you remain ignorant. If you want to make an argument go right ahead. At this point all we can conclude is that you don't like me.

What will I do?

all you answered is you dindt like being challenged. answer the question, there is no need to say anything negative about me. i did not attack you. I am not ignorant of anything, asked you a question, you refuse to answer
 

FuzzyLumpkins

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all you answered is you dindt like being challenged. answer the question, there is no need to say anything negative about me. i did not attack you. I am not ignorant of anything, asked you a question, you refuse to answer
I am not going to engage in your argumentative style sorry. You could try a different approach like making the argument about SB winning coaches without my input.

I am not going to help your argument. Deal with it.
 

FuzzyLumpkins

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oh noes, you totally blocked my point. since you know, you dodged spun rinse and repeat. its ok, we all know the dance you do
You have a point?

You asked a question that was not answered. Complained about it to and now claim victory.

No point though.
 

Rockport

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Hire this coach! Sign this free agent! Draft this guy! It's not about a guy here or there with this team, it starts at the top. It's a dysfunctional organization.

Jerry and Stephen Jones are unique. No other NFL team has the owner as GM and his son as Director of Player Personnel. This has been the arrangement in Dallas for 28 years. They have won four wild card games. That's it. That's all they have to show for it. They've fired more head coaches than playoff wins in that time.

Take a good hard look. These are the masterminds you're counting on after 28 years of trying. If you weren't a Cowboys fan, you'd laugh at them. They're a joke.

They aren't going to suddenly figure it out, they aren't going to quit while the money still rolls in, so accept 12-5. It's as good as it is going to get. Enjoy.

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Same ole story regurgitated for the billionth time.
 

Rockport

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An owner with final say is not new.

A owner's child in an executive position is not new.

An executive in charge of the scouts, in constant communication with the coaching staff, and under an owner who is final say is nothing new.

McClay is not called general manager and the owner is but that is really window dressing. Lurie, the Maras, Snyder before he got canned, and many other clubs have the same arrangement presented above but without the window dressing.

I also see very few discussions of how they lead to this insurmountable obstacle. The 500 lbs Gorrilla in the room is that Jerry has won multiple Super Bowls. The already specious reasoning becomes blatantly absurd.

Jerry has his problems but he contributes as well. He is not going anywhere so I see no point to whining about it much less to start doomcasting because of it.
Well said FuzzyLumpkins.
 

ColoradoCowboy

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how many does he have without sb winning coaches?

in fact, name a franchise that has fired more than 2 SB winning coaches?
Only one NFL team that I can think of has fired "more than 2 SB winning coaches".

That would be your Dallas Cowboys. Landry, Johnson, Switzer. Although you could argue that both Johnson and Switzer technically resigned, but since both were still under contract, they would have had to retire or be fired.
 
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