Some of you will never be happy. Will you.

[Alexander]

Not to mention that Bill Parcells just got horribly outcoached by Mike Holmgren.

Coach Parcells outcoached Holmgren on Sunday and his most formidable rival was himself.

Up until the final minutes, he coached rings around Holmgren.

If you are talking the final minutes, then I guess I can agree Holmgren rope-a-doped him.

 

[Doomsday101]

Agreed Dooms.

However, I think he's clearly better than some QBs being thrown out these days, but people are staying away because of his off-field issues. I just wish our buddy Kartr would be objective and admit Bledsoe has played well so far in spite of his last pass Sunday.

I would agree but it is the off the field issue that is keeping teams from giving him a chance and with good reason. Out of all the position on a football team the leader is the QB, now what does this say about your leader when he has failed more than one drug test? Is this a man you can trust? Will he be clean next week or the week after that? This is why you don't see many QB with these types of issue getting the extra chances that are given to other players.

 

[WoodysGirl]

In Wolverine's defense, he did state that he was pissed, and that Bledsoe and Petitti deserve to be slammed. He also said the Rivera, Cortez and our centers deserve the venom that has been leveled at them.

He is just saying that the calls for Bledsoe and Pettitti to be fired, cut up in little peices and barbequed at a tailgate party are going overboard, given their performances this year.

This is the same guy who posted this in the Cortez fired in the lockerroom thread..

I got Jose Cortez fired.
I put up a poll last night on how much faith all you have in Jose Cortez. The little faith and ZERO faith votes got all the votes. I guess Parcells read my poll and knew what needed to be done!

Good riddance Jose. I just wish I could be there to kick you in the a** on the way out.

http://cowboyszone.com/forums/showpost.php?p=564618&postcount=55

U don't see the irony, here? And I KNOW I could pull a bunch more similar posts from Sunday with similar commentary. That's not the same Wolvie and nobody will be able to tell me differently.

 

[vicjagger]

I wouldn't call that a coaching gem by Holmgrem but flat out darn lucky.

Did you see the stunned look on Holmgren's face at the end of the game? I've never seen a winning coach with such a doe-in-the-headlights look. *** just happened?

 

[LeonDixson]

This is the same guy who posted this in the Cortez fired in the lockerroom thread..


U don't see the irony, here? And I KNOW I could pull a bunch more similar posts from Sunday with similar commentary. That's not the same Wolvie and nobody will be able to tell me differently.

Go back and re-read his post, WG. He clearly stated that Cortez deserved all the derision he was receiving. That is consistent; not ironic.

He said some things I disagree with, but I just felt the need to point out that his main point was merely Bledsoe and Petitti are good players and the calls for their heads is overboard.

He wasn't saying that players don't deserve criticism, just reserve the "let's kill the bastid" criticism for those that truly deserve it.

 

[TheHustler]

Wolverine, do you realize how ironic this post is?

90% of the time all you do is complain. Now you're complaining because some people have the audacity to complain.

Exactly what I was thinking. And his "Zimmer Village Idiot" signature remains even though we have a top 10 defense.....

 

[WoodysGirl]

Go back and re-read his post, WG. He clearly stated that Cortez deserved all the derision he was receiving. That is consistent; not ironic.

He said some things I disagree with, but I just felt the need to point out that his main point was merely Bledsoe and Petitti are good players and the calls for their heads is overboard.

He wasn't saying that players don't deserve criticism, just reserve the "let's kill the bastid" criticism for those that truly deserve it.

Actually it was a good post and I don't disagree for the most part.

But with Wolverine's post history here...and his tendency to react negatively to most EVERYTHING is hilarious.

His telling anyone to be reasonable and to NOT overreact is truly the ultimate "Pot calling the kettle black"
Seriously...

 

[LeonDixson]

Actually it was a good post and I don't disagree for the most part.

But with Wolverine's post history here...and his tendency to react negatively to most EVERYTHING is hilarious.

His telling anyone to be reasonable and to NOT overreact is truly the ultimate "Pot calling the kettle black"
Seriously...

Yup, yup yup. I agree with you there.

 

[Hostile]

Yup, yup yup. I agree with you there.

Then you agree with me too, because that is exactly what I am talking about.

I never said his post wasn't good. Just that it is ironic he is calling others out for what he does 90% of the time. The point being, he's never happy.

I guarantee you he is not a rose colored glasses wearing poster. Everything is not sunshine and daisies. The sky is usually falling.

 

[LeonDixson]

I never said I disagree with you. I merely pointed out that he was saying that some players deserve the worst criticism and others, like Bledsoe and Petitti, do not. It was a point that was lost on a lot of posters in this thread.

 

[kartr]

Some of us are happy we actually have a real QB playing for this team. Yes Bledsoe had a bad game it happens to all of them but by and large most who cover the NFL relize how well Bledsoe has played too bad you can't see it due to your hate

He's only played good against defenses that are struggling. We wont see those teams in the playoffs, if we get there. He's been mediocre against any team with a semblance of good defense. Most of the people who cover the NFL are front-running band-wagoners. They change their minds like Paris Hilton changes shoes. They don't pick who's going to be in the superbowl and they aren't any better at picking who's going to win from week to week.

 

[Doomsday101]

He's only played good against defenses that are struggling. We wont see those teams in the playoffs, if we get there. He's been mediocre against any team with a semblance of good defense. Most of the people who cover the NFL are front-running band-wagoners. They change their minds like Paris Hilton changes shoes. They don't pick who's going to be in the superbowl and they aren't any better at picking who's going to win from week to week.

Bledsoe is doing the job despite folks like you who have done nothing but B**** and moan since he got here. You more concerned over your little pot head QB who is about as worthless as they come. You would bend over backwards to sing that idiots praise so why the hell would I think you even have a clue as to what your talking about. So keep on hating on Bledsoe all you want but he is doing a better job than that idiot you drool over

 

[Kilyin]

He's only played good against defenses that are struggling. We wont see those teams in the playoffs, if we get there. He's been mediocre against any team with a semblance of good defense. Most of the people who cover the NFL are front-running band-wagoners. They change their minds like Paris Hilton changes shoes. They don't pick who's going to be in the superbowl and they aren't any better at picking who's going to win from week to week.

Funny, before we beat the Eagles they were often labeled as one of the best secondaries in the league. Now they're not even a "good defense".

 

[kartr]

Agreed Dooms.

However, I think he's clearly better than some QBs being thrown out these days, but people are staying away because of his off-field issues. I just wish our buddy Kartr would be objective and admit Bledsoe has played well so far in spite of his last pass Sunday.

He has played well, in spots, but clearly he lost the Commanders game, the Raiders game and the Seahawks game. With him, it's not just the passes that he throws, but he holds the ball too long at times which gets him sacked and everyone blames the offensive line. Was it the O-line's fault he didn't see Witten in the end zone? His biggest problem is his decision-making and that's not acceptable for a 12 year vet. People keep talking about that if he's protected, he'll be fine, but Carter didn't have great protection from the O-line or any half-way decent backs, and he still got us to the playoffs, including come from behind wins against the Panthers and Eagles who played in the conference championship game. We had no running game either time.

You're right,he is better than a third of the starting qb's today and better than 3/4 of the backups(did you see the Jets last night?), but lots of players have off-field issues and are still allowed to play(Ricky Williams,Leonard Little,Brian Griese and Kerry Collins).

 

[Dat mans bro]

Good post Wolverine. I agree. Many times after a loss, I take a break from the zone just because its so gloom and doom. Everything is so "The world is going to end". Now if we had a losing record right now, thats one thing, but 4-3. I 'll take that. Could be better, but not enough to be going nuts.

To be honest, I am pleasantly surprised by Bledsoe, Ware, and the D. They have contributed better than expected this early. the Offense will come around. They are just trying to find their groove and be consistent.

Go Cowboys!

 

[Hostile]

He's only played good against defenses that are struggling. We wont see those teams in the playoffs, if we get there. He's been mediocre against any team with a semblance of good defense. Most of the people who cover the NFL are front-running band-wagoners. They change their minds like Paris Hilton changes shoes. They don't pick who's going to be in the superbowl and they aren't any better at picking who's going to win from week to week.

The Eagles won't make the playoffs?

Are you cereal, or just malt?

 

[Hostile]

He has played well, in spots, but clearly he lost the Commanders game, the Raiders game and the Seahawks game. With him, it's not just the passes that he throws, but he holds the ball too long at times which gets him sacked and everyone blames the offensive line. Was it the O-line's fault he didn't see Witten in the end zone? His biggest problem is his decision-making and that's not acceptable for a 12 year vet. People keep talking about that if he's protected, he'll be fine, but Carter didn't have great protection from the O-line or any half-way decent backs, and he still got us to the playoffs, including come from behind wins against the Panthers and Eagles who played in the conference championship game. We had no running game either time.

You're right,he is better than a third of the starting qb's today and better than 3/4 of the backups(did you see the Jets last night?), but lots of players have off-field issues and are still allowed to play(Ricky Williams,Leonard Little,Brian Griese and Kerry Collins).

Nonsense.

 

[Doomsday101]

He has played well, in spots, but clearly he lost the Commanders game, the Raiders game and the Seahawks game. With him, it's not just the passes that he throws, but he holds the ball too long at times which gets him sacked and everyone blames the offensive line. Was it the O-line's fault he didn't see Witten in the end zone? His biggest problem is his decision-making and that's not acceptable for a 12 year vet. People keep talking about that if he's protected, he'll be fine, but Carter didn't have great protection from the O-line or any half-way decent backs, and he still got us to the playoffs, including come from behind wins against the Panthers and Eagles who played in the conference championship game. We had no running game either time.

You're right,he is better than a third of the starting qb's today and better than 3/4 of the backups(did you see the Jets last night?), but lots of players have off-field issues and are still allowed to play(Ricky Williams,Leonard Little,Brian Griese and Kerry Collins).

He clearly lost those game? Get your head out of your *** guy you really have no clue as to what your talking about!!!

 

[32BellyOption]

Losing I can handle. Being 4-3 isn't bad either. But it's the WAY we've lost those three games that pisses me off! We should have won ALL three of those games! In each instance we had chances to put them opposition away and didn't! You would think after the first two fiasco's BP would have learned but he didn't! Those are the games that come the end of the season could keep us out of the playoffs!

 

[Kilyin]

He has played well, in spots, but clearly he lost the Commanders game, the Raiders game and the Seahawks game. With him, it's not just the passes that he throws, but he holds the ball too long at times which gets him sacked and everyone blames the offensive line. Was it the O-line's fault he didn't see Witten in the end zone? His biggest problem is his decision-making and that's not acceptable for a 12 year vet. People keep talking about that if he's protected, he'll be fine, but Carter didn't have great protection from the O-line or any half-way decent backs, and he still got us to the playoffs, including come from behind wins against the Panthers and Eagles who played in the conference championship game. We had no running game either time.

You're right,he is better than a third of the starting qb's today and better than 3/4 of the backups(did you see the Jets last night?), but lots of players have off-field issues and are still allowed to play(Ricky Williams,Leonard Little,Brian Griese and Kerry Collins).

The second int against Seattle was a bonehead throw. Claiming he was trying to throw it out of bounds was weak too, as that was downright laughable. "Sorry guys, I was trying to draw a flag for intentional grounding, but I threw an interception instead." You could make an argument Bledsoe lost us the Seattle game, but there's plenty of other things to blame it on also. I don't agree we lost to the Skins or the Raiders because of him, though.