Some of you would defend Jerry & Bill even if they cut Roy Williams

[Wolf2k5]

Some of you are getting ridiculous as to how far you are defending Jerry & Bill. Even the calmest "seen it all" posters here are starting to wonder if the chicken little point of view has some merit.

* Receiving core is now dangerously low with a guy who ruins the chemistry of every team he is on as our most likely replacement.

* The biggest weakness last year (offensive line) has not been fixed at all. A guy who may never be more than a backup is our biggest addition on the line.

* Larry Allen is about to be replaced by the aforementioned player.

* Veterans are being cut left and right. The rookies are going to watch quality guys like Dan Campbell and La'Roi Glover released while possibly a TO comes in?

* Still no kicker in Big D. A position that single-handedly lost at least 3 games last year.

* The Cowboys, one of the largest money making franchise in the NFL, and a team that is supposed to have an owner who wants to win at all costs, are about to enter the draft with $20 million in empty cap space.

* The Commanders have gotten much better. The Giants are slowly improving.

Come on now, even some of you diehard apologists must be getting a little nervous by now??

I have to say, the only thing I am satisifed with is our new linebacker, but only if we get a stud in the draft to compliment him.

DUDE SHUT UP FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!!!! Im so tired of all these stupid posts. I dont agree with not signing guys right away either but we arnt overpaying anyone and alot of the guys every1 had picked for dallas to go for are still on the market. It been five days so quit yer crying and trying to sound like you would make a better GM. It makin me sick to my stomach

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

Cancel the season...

But while you're at it, let's make sure we cancel the Patriots season too. They haven't done a thing. Cancel the Colts too. Besides, guys like Parcells, Pioli and Belicick, and Bill Polian don't have a clue.

Sorry bud, I just have to respond real quick to that.

My list of the top 10 arguments I hate reading from the "Bill Defenders"....

#6 is when folks bring up:

"But the Colts did...."
"But the Steelers did...."
"But the Patriots didn't...."

Please stick with the bubble teams that like us are no sure bet for a Playoff birth. The teams that have won recent Super Bowls or come very close have every right to stay pat. Teams like the Cowboys are not there yet and need to do everything in their power to improve, even if it means taking some risks in free agency.

Just my two cents.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Damnit, will all yuo idiots just shut up? No one here has ever managed a football team, who are we to say we know whats best for this team? It may not make sense to us, but Jerry Jones is one of only 4 owners in history to win 3 or more SBs. He knows what he's doing. We have no clue how to manage a team, he has been doing for 20 years.

So please, drop the "Jerry is an idiot, I cant believe this" act. As far as football goes, there are few better.

 

[ddh33]

Sorry bud, I just have to respond real quick to that.

My list of the top 10 arguments I hate reading from the "Bill Defenders"....

#6 is when folks bring up:

"But the Colts did...."
"But the Steelers did...."
"But the Patriots didn't...."

Please stick with the bubble teams that like us are no sure bet for a Playoff birth. The teams that have won recent Super Bowls or come very close have every right to stay pat. Teams like the Cowboys are not there yet and need to do everything in their power to improve, even if it means taking some risks in free agency.

Just my two cents.

Fair enough. You think Dallas should take some risks in free agency? Is free agency over yet? Is it impossible to still make some solid additions to this team?

There is a double standard at work here. I have no problem with wanting the team to be improved. We all do. But I believe this team is being improved, and that isn't just "homerism". I like what Dallas has done, and I expect even more to be done.

As far as I'm concerned, this isn't an issue right now. If noting has changed when the season rolls around, then everyone can panic. Until then, just relax and see what happens.

 

[Wolf2k5]

Damnit, will all yuo idiots just shut up? No one here has ever managed a football team, who are we to say we know whats best for this team? It may not make sense to us, but Jerry Jones is one of only 4 owners in history to win 3 or more SBs. He knows what he's doing. We have no clue how to manage a team, he has been doing for 20 years.

So please, drop the "Jerry is an idiot, I cant believe this" act. As far as football goes, there are few better.

Thank YOU!!!! thats basically what i said awhile ago. I cant stand these jackass 13 year olds that play to much madden and want us to go and overpay big name guys who are overated (Randel el)

 

[Mavs Man]

Please stick with the bubble teams that like us are no sure bet for a Playoff birth. The teams that have won recent Super Bowls or come very close have every right to stay pat. Teams like the Cowboys are not there yet and need to do everything in their power to improve, even if it means taking some risks in free agency.

I'm probably closer to the "what the team does is always right" category, but I agree with this. It's silly to compare what we're doing to proven contenders. I think we've moving in the right direction the past few seasons (compared to our teams from the '97 Switzer squad through Gailey and Campo), but we aren't perennial contenders, yet, folks. We've still got a ways to go.

 

[billyrags]

I may not agree with everything that Jerry does, but I refuse to throw him under the bus. I doubt there are many people, if any at all, on this board that care more about the Cowboys than Jerry. I'll defend him as long as I believe that he puts winning first. We may not like his methods at times, but when have we ever unanimously agreed on anything.

Bill, well thats another story... I'm happy he is our coach, but...

 

[The30YardSlant]

Let's not forget, everyone critized JJ for drafting Emmitt. He was "too small, too slow, too streaky". How'd that turn out?

I remember JJ getting blasted by the media for signing Deion Sanders. All that did was win us a SB.

 

[Kittymama]

Sorry bud, I just have to respond real quick to that.

My list of the top 10 arguments I hate reading from the "Bill Defenders"....

#6 is when folks bring up:

"But the Colts did...."
"But the Steelers did...."
"But the Patriots didn't...."

Please stick with the bubble teams that like us are no sure bet for a Playoff birth. The teams that have won recent Super Bowls or come very close have every right to stay pat. Teams like the Cowboys are not there yet and need to do everything in their power to improve, even if it means taking some risks in free agency.

Just my two cents.

Well, look at my posting elsewhere listing all of the teams who haven't been active so far in FA. A LOT of those teams are bubble teams. I'll also point out that most people had the Stillers as a bubble team last year. The Colts have yet to go the whole way. I challenge anyone who said Chicago would be a contender at the beginning of last season. Or San Diego the year before.

So you CAN throw those teams in the mix because you never do know, from season to season, what will happen.

 

[ZRO]

Some of you are getting ridiculous as to how far you are defending Jerry & Bill. Even the calmest "seen it all" posters here are starting to wonder if the chicken little point of view has some merit.

* Receiving core is now dangerously low with a guy who ruins the chemistry of every team he is on as our most likely replacement.

He's also the best WR in the NFL.

* The biggest weakness last year (offensive line) has not been fixed at all. A guy who may never be more than a backup is our biggest addition on the line.

I'm sure we will continue to address this position, in FA and definitely in the draft.

* Larry Allen is about to be replaced by the aforementioned player.

There's no guarentee he'll but cut, but he's D-O-N-E, so he wont be a big loss.

* Veterans are being cut left and right. The rookies are going to watch quality guys like Dan Campbell and La'Roi Glover released while possibly a TO comes in?

Glover is overpaid and declining rapidly. Campbell is a below average TE and is easily replaceable.

* Still no kicker in Big D. A position that single-handedly lost at least 3 games last year.

We will end up with either Vinatieri, Vanderjagt or Mare.

* The Cowboys, one of the largest money making franchise in the NFL, and a team that is supposed to have an owner who wants to win at all costs, are about to enter the draft with $20 million in empty cap space.

No, we're not. You can expect us to bring in T.O., another LB, a K, maybe a FS, and possibly more OL help before the draft.

* The Commanders have gotten much better. The Giants are slowly improving.

The Commanders have horribly overpaid a bunch of average players. They gave 31 million to a WR who is only marginally better than Patrick Crayton. Actually, Crayton might be better. The Giants have done nothing except sign two old, over the hill CB's.

Come on now, even some of you diehard apologists must be getting a little nervous by now??

A month from now if we haven't made anymore moves, then I'll be nervous.

 

[Kittymama]

Sorry bud, I just have to respond real quick to that.

My list of the top 10 arguments I hate reading from the "Bill Defenders"....

#6 is when folks bring up:

"But the Colts did...."
"But the Steelers did...."
"But the Patriots didn't...."

Please stick with the bubble teams that like us are no sure bet for a Playoff birth. The teams that have won recent Super Bowls or come very close have every right to stay pat. Teams like the Cowboys are not there yet and need to do everything in their power to improve, even if it means taking some risks in free agency.

Just my two cents.

And I'll further add that those 3 teams you just listed--Colts, Steelers, Patriots--GOT THAT WAY BY NOT GOING WILD IN FA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seriously--I defy you to go back thru their history & show me one year where any of those 3 teams (& throw the Seahawks in there too, & maybe the Panthers & Iggles) spent wildly in FA. One year. From any of them. Just one. Every one of them built thru the draft, then added in FAs where needed (inexpensive ones). The Iggles made one exception to that rule--& look what happened to them.

 

[Bach]

Let's not forget, everyone critized JJ for drafting Emmitt. He was "too small, too slow, too streaky". How'd that turn out?

I remember JJ getting blasted by the media for signing Deion Sanders. All that did was win us a SB.

I don't know where you were, but I recall many thinking we got a steal with Emmitt at #17, when most mocks had him in the top 5. The main reason he dropped was because people thought he was going to hold out. Even though he did, he was still there for opening day, let alone the rest of that decade and more.

I also recall most Cowboy fans being excited about signing Deion. He was a legit final piece to our secondary and weakened SF at the same time.

 

[Bach]

So please, drop the "Jerry is an idiot, I cant believe this" act. As far as football goes, there are few better.

You must not remember the decade between Jimmy and Parcells.

Jerry proved that when it came to football he was just that, an idiot.

 

[wileedog]

I'll make a half-hearted attempt at some defense, if for no other reason than to prove your point

* Receiving core is now dangerously low with a guy who ruins the chemistry of every team he is on as our most likely replacement.

I like Key and all, but at 34 and slow as molasses I'm not sure he's as big a loss as your making him out to be.

That being said, we obviously can't go into the season with Glenn/Crayton/Copper.

I won't get into TO, there are enough threads, but I'm willing to see what the plan is here.

* The biggest weakness last year (offensive line) has not been fixed at all. A guy who may never be more than a backup is our biggest addition on the line.

Outside of Bentley and Hutchinson its a fairly marginal to downright bad OL FA class. Seriously, is Fabini really an answer here?

Last year we signed a 32 year old OLman and it turned out to be one of our biggest mistakes. A few years ago we did the same with oft-injured Ryan Young. So I have trouble with those complaining we are not making it again.

* Larry Allen is about to be replaced by the aforementioned player.

I don't necessarily see this as a negative.

* Veterans are being cut left and right. The rookies are going to watch quality guys like Dan Campbell and La'Roi Glover released while possibly a TO comes in?

This is silly. Dan Campbell was a waste of a roster spot last season and Glover clearly doesn't fit the system. There's no reason to keep inferior/mismatched players just because they provide 'veteran leadership'.

What have Campbell or Glover ever led us to?

Sign McGinnest, problem solved.

* Still no kicker in Big D. A position that single-handedly lost at least 3 games last year.

Can't possibly defend it. No clue what they are thinking or why spending money on a kicker is so hard for them.

* The Cowboys, one of the largest money making franchise in the NFL, and a team that is supposed to have an owner who wants to win at all costs, are about to enter the draft with $20 million in empty cap space.

Darn, FA ended already? When did I miss that?

* The Commanders have gotten much better. The Giants are slowly improving.

Neither team got anybody who really concerns me that much, and the Commanders blew out much of their draft to do it.

Have the Skins had a better offseason to date? Yep.

Will it be better when we do spend some money and then add our draft picks? We'll see.

Come on now, even some of you diehard apologists must be getting a little nervous by now??

Sure I'm concerned. I don't want 2004 again either.

But this was a very weak FA class and teams like the Skins blew a ton of money on guys who aren't exactly team or game changing.

 

[chinch]

Some of you are getting ridiculous as to how far you are defending Jerry & Bill. Even the calmest "seen it all" posters here are starting to wonder if the chicken little point of view has some merit.

* Receiving core is now dangerously low with a guy who ruins the chemistry of every team he is on as our most likely replacement.

* The biggest weakness last year (offensive line) has not been fixed at all. A guy who may never be more than a backup is our biggest addition on the line.

* Larry Allen is about to be replaced by the aforementioned player.

* Veterans are being cut left and right. The rookies are going to watch quality guys like Dan Campbell and La'Roi Glover released while possibly a TO comes in?

* Still no kicker in Big D. A position that single-handedly lost at least 3 games last year.

* The Cowboys, one of the largest money making franchise in the NFL, and a team that is supposed to have an owner who wants to win at all costs, are about to enter the draft with $20 million in empty cap space.

* The Commanders have gotten much better. The Giants are slowly improving.

Come on now, even some of you diehard apologists must be getting a little nervous by now??

I have to say, the only thing I am satisifed with is our new linebacker, but only if we get a stud in the draft to compliment him.

Preach on.

I lay this primarily on Jerruh as he's writing (or in this case NOT writing) the checks and leaving $$$ unspent (as he brokers marketing deals and stadium builds).

 

[kartr]

Sorry bud, I just have to respond real quick to that.

My list of the top 10 arguments I hate reading from the "Bill Defenders"....

#6 is when folks bring up:

"But the Colts did...."
"But the Steelers did...."
"But the Patriots didn't...."

Please stick with the bubble teams that like us are no sure bet for a Playoff birth. The teams that have won recent Super Bowls or come very close have every right to stay pat. Teams like the Cowboys are not there yet and need to do everything in their power to improve, even if it means taking some risks in free agency.

Just my two cents.

Good point on us comparing our team to the likes of the Steelers,Colts and Pats, we're not even in their zip code. All those teams have relatively stability at the skill positions, while we certainly do not. Also, their offensive lines, and defenses are pretty stable too.

 

[kartr]

Damnit, will all yuo idiots just shut up? No one here has ever managed a football team, who are we to say we know whats best for this team? It may not make sense to us, but Jerry Jones is one of only 4 owners in history to win 3 or more SBs. He knows what he's doing. We have no clue how to manage a team, he has been doing for 20 years.

So please, drop the "Jerry is an idiot, I cant believe this" act. As far as football goes, there are few better.

The Cowboys are 15-17 over the last 2 years under Parcells and have only had 1 winning season since '96. You lose a lot of credibility with one winning season in nine, because you begin to resemble the Bengals and Cardinals.

 

[kartr]

He's also the best WR in the NFL.



I'm sure we will continue to address this position, in FA and definitely in the draft.



There's no guarentee he'll but cut, but he's D-O-N-E, so he wont be a big loss.



Glover is overpaid and declining rapidly. Campbell is a below average TE and is easily replaceable.



We will end up with either Vinatieri, Vanderjagt or Mare.



No, we're not. You can expect us to bring in T.O., another LB, a K, maybe a FS, and possibly more OL help before the draft.



The Commanders have horribly overpaid a bunch of average players. They gave 31 million to a WR who is only marginally better than Patrick Crayton. Actually, Crayton might be better. The Giants have done nothing except sign two old, over the hill CB's.



A month from now if we haven't made anymore moves, then I'll be nervous.

I disagree on your Commander take. Look at what Santana Moss did virtually no help at WR, both Randle El and Lloyd are huge upgrades over their 2 and 3 Wr slots last year. Also with the rule change(no mugging of receivers) those smaller receivers will allow them to spread the field more. I believe Lloyd had a pretty good game against us last year as did Moss. Also, they now have Al Saunders at OC, look what he did with KC. The Skins have much better receivers than what the Chiefs had,plus we also had a chance to get Al Saunders and passed in favor of ugh,Chris Palmer. The top of the line salary cap cut players have already been released and resigned and or traded, Pickings will be slim to none the longer we wait.

 

[DizzG]

its pretty funny that some seem to have already given up on the offseason that is a matter of just days old

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

its pretty funny that some seem to have already given up on the offseason that is a matter of just days old

....said the Zone poster as another talented free agent that would fill a position of need was signed.