Some Random thoughts

[CATCH17]

First off I want to say I have absolutely 0 problem with our offseason approach.

I've been on these boards for years and it seems like every year at this time we always have so many people crying about not signing anyone and then we usually end up with an amazing offseason.

Of course we have room to upgrade but we are a team good enough to win a Superbowl already with just some minor tweaks.

If we keep this team in tact for years I believe we will eventually win the big one.

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Randy Moss

Don't get me wrong the guy is possibly the most unstopable player in the NFL but how can any Cowboy fan ever want to root for this guy?

Even if we do sign this guy in my eyes he will never be a Dallas Cowboy.

I dont want to see him on one of our division rivals teams but I would rather see him in a Eagles, Commanders, or Giants uniform before looking at him in a Cowboys uniform.

At some point you have to draw a line and Randy Moss crosses that line and is a sell out IMO.

Plus you guys who are silly enough to believe Owens and Moss can put their Ego's aside for one another need to stop the wishful thinking.

Two words Randy.... Stay Away

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Darren McFadden

Am I the only one that would not cry my eyes out if we still traded up and picked this guy?

Some of you complain about his game and such and I just want to know why some of you think that the Darren McFadden you see today is the same one your going to see tomorrow?

Oh, but Catch, he has Chicken legs!!

The guy is 20 years old and is far from a finished product.

When he gets out of school and is in a NFL training program this guy is going to pack on some serious muscle and he has a frame that can hold a lot more weight than what he has on now.

Despite what some of you believe he is a very tough runner.

He played in the best defensive conference in the country and produced bigtime with an awful supporting cast.

I don't know where the Reggie Bush comparison came from but that seriously needs to be dropped.

In my opinion he is a lot like Peterson except his potential is a little higher.

I believe he is a better athlete with a higher ceiling and at worst I think he is still going to be one heck of a back.

If I were Dallas i'd probably stay put but I sure as heck won't be mad if The Dallas Cowboys select Darren McFadden either.

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Mavericks

I hope the Mavs don't regret trading Harris away for Kidd.

Harris, in my opinion, would have been so much better if Avery would've taken his foot out of his butt.

It is going to be fun watching all this play out.

Mavs vs Lakers @ 2:30 Central today!

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I want a team that can compete for the next 5 years... not just next year. With Newman's contract coming due and then Ware's, not too mention Canty's the last thing I want to see is another high-priced, old receiver added to the roster.

McFadden would put a real hurting on us cap wise... another high-priced part we don't need if Barber is kept.

 

[skinsscalper]

I want a team that can compete for the next 5 years... not just next year. With Newman's contract coming due and then Ware's, not too mention Canty's the last thing I want to see is another high-priced, old receiver added to the roster.

McFadden would put a real hurting on us cap wise... another high-priced part we don't need if Barber is kept.

Preach it brother.

 

[odog422]

... the last thing I want to see is another high-priced, old receiver added to the roster.

McFadden would put a real hurting on us cap wise... another high-priced part we don't need if Barber is kept.

Amen.

I'm with you...long haul. Don't wreck our cap - it's simply not needed. We are not far off by any means from being able to achieve what we all want and I don't believe we need "names" or their requisite price tags to get there.

 

[CATCH17]

I want a team that can compete for the next 5 years... not just next year. With Newman's contract coming due and then Ware's, not too mention Canty's the last thing I want to see is another high-priced, old receiver added to the roster.

McFadden would put a real hurting on us cap wise... another high-priced part we don't need if Barber is kept.

I agree and I think we will compete for as long as Tony Romo plays at a high level.

He is the meal ticket right now and as long as hes good Dallas will be good.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Am I the only one that would not cry my eyes out if we still traded up and picked this guy?

Probably not. But I am very much against trading up for him.

 

[sago1]

If our Cleveland pick had been a top 10, I'd have no problem with taking McFadden. But we don't; we got 2#1 picks and it's too much to give up for McFadden (probably have to sweeten the pot even more) and his addition to the team won't help our secondary nor our WR situation. McFadden can't play CB and he can't play WR. If TO goes down, we are screwed on both sides of the ball.

 

[CATCH17]

If our Cleveland pick had been a top 10, I'd have no problem with taking McFadden. But we don't; we got 2#1 picks and it's too much to give up for McFadden (probably have to sweeten the pot even more) and his addition to the team won't help our secondary nor our WR situation. McFadden can't play CB and he can't play WR. If TO goes down, we are screwed on both sides of the ball.

But what if McFadden comes in with a Peterson type impact?

What if... and I know this sounds crazy... But what if he actually does live up to the hype?

We would be virtually unstopable.

Like I said I would probably stay put but I sure as heck could see why someone would go up to get McFadden.

 

[sago1]

Also will be real good for a long time but w/o quality WRs who will he through too. Eagles added Samuels because of the quality offensive teams they play; specifically Dallas & Romo. Why did we sign Romo to franchise QB money if we don't intend to ensure a steady stream of WRs coming his way. Believe we best served to stay put (with at least 1 first rounder) to draft quality CB. Wouldn't object to trading 2nd pick to Miami for their 2 or the Falcons for their 2.

 

[DallasEast]

Randy Moss

Don't get me wrong the guy is possibly the most unstopable player in the NFL but how can any Cowboy fan ever want to root for this guy?

Even if we do sign this guy in my eyes he will never be a Dallas Cowboy.

I dont want to see him on one of our division rivals teams but I would rather see him in a Eagles, Commanders, or Giants uniform before looking at him in a Cowboys uniform.

At some point you have to draw a line and Randy Moss crosses that line and is a sell out IMO.

Plus you guys who are silly enough to believe Owens and Moss can put their Ego's aside for one another need to stop the wishful thinking.

Two words Randy.... Stay Away

I'm going on four decades of being a Cowboys fan and I've never rooted for Terrell Owens a day in my life. I would probably feel the same about Randy Moss wearing Cowboy blue. He's got a bad attitute, but that's about it.

Still, for all the huge games he has had against us, Moss has never disrespected this franchise in another team's uniform in the same fashion as Owens did with the Star incident. Sure, he has mooned Packer fans, but that's Green Bay, not Dallas.

If Moss were to sign and fulfill his contract as Owens currently has without making (too many) waves, I could live with it. Luckily, it wouldn't be the end of the world... even though I do know beyond a shadow of a doubt that Hell froze over two years ago...

Darren McFadden

Am I the only one that would not cry my eyes out if we still traded up and picked this guy?

Some of you complain about his game and such and I just want to know why some of you think that the Darren McFadden you see today is the same one your going to see tomorrow?

Oh, but Catch, he has Chicken legs!!

The guy is 20 years old and is far from a finished product.

When he gets out of school and is in a NFL training program this guy is going to pack on some serious muscle and he has a frame that can hold a lot more weight than what he has on now.

Despite what some of you believe he is a very tough runner.

He played in the best defensive conference in the country and produced bigtime with an awful supporting cast.

I don't know where the Reggie Bush comparison came from but that seriously needs to be dropped.

In my opinion he is a lot like Peterson except his potential is a little higher.

I believe he is a better athlete with a higher ceiling and at worst I think he is still going to be one heck of a back.

If I were Dallas i'd probably stay put but I sure as heck won't be mad if The Dallas Cowboys select Darren McFadden either.

My only problem with trading up for McFadden is any potential, negative, long-term effects which could impact the roster. McFadden could easily become a franchise player, but if he doesn't, we've lost two solid chances to land very good or great players. Being an SEC fan, I've seen enough of McFadden during his career to know that he's worth the gamble, but it still makes me very nervous.

 

[Boysboy]

For the record-if we had broke the bank on Samuel, I would have been livid. I'm glad the Eagles were dumb enough to do so.

 

[CATCH17]

For the record-if we had broke the bank on Samuel, I would have been livid. I'm glad the Eagles were dumb enough to do so.

I just hope Samuels pay day doesn't hurt us with trying to resign Newman.

It will be hard for us to give Newman Asante Samuel Money.

 

[CrazyCowboy]

Darren McFadden

Am I the only one that would not cry my eyes out if we still traded up and picked this guy?

Some of you complain about his game and such and I just want to know why some of you think that the Darren McFadden you see today is the same one your going to see tomorrow?

Oh, but Catch, he has Chicken legs!!

The guy is 20 years old and is far from a finished product.

When he gets out of school and is in a NFL training program this guy is going to pack on some serious muscle and he has a frame that can hold a lot more weight than what he has on now.

Despite what some of you believe he is a very tough runner.

He played in the best defensive conference in the country and produced bigtime with an awful supporting cast.

I don't know where the Reggie Bush comparison came from but that seriously needs to be dropped.

In my opinion he is a lot like Peterson except his potential is a little higher.

I believe he is a better athlete with a higher ceiling and at worst I think he is still going to be one heck of a back.

If I were Dallas i'd probably stay put but I sure as heck won't be mad if The Dallas Cowboys select Darren McFadden either.

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NOPE you are not--count me in....the kid is AWESOME and will be the best RB in the NFL within three short years.

 

[speedkilz88]

-I really don't understand this not seeing a guy as a real Cowboy. Did everyone not enjoy and cheer for TOs 15 tds this past season? Its a game people.

-Because of the price in picks, players, and salary I can understand not trading up for McFadden, but I wouldn't be upset if it happens because I really don't have any doubts about him being a star in the nfl.

-I hate to see a young talent go in Devin and only have a couple of years with Jason Kidd, but Devin was never going to be what the (current)Mavs needed at the point. Dirk was having way to much problems getting an open shot without a true point guard. I do think Devin will develop better as a player without having Avery yank him out every time he made a mistake though.

 

[Vertigo_17]

But what if McFadden comes in with a Peterson type impact?

What if... and I know this sounds crazy... But what if he actually does live up to the hype?

We would be virtually unstopable.

Like I said I would probably stay put but I sure as heck could see why someone would go up to get McFadden.

"IF" we did give up the house for McFadden, I hope you are right that we're unstoppable cause every game would be a shootout...since we are very thin in the secondary and possible Dline if Canty goes.

McFadden may very well be a monster, or a failure. But we have bigger holes that need to be addressed before we basically double down on RB. I would much rather draft CB, WR, and RB (in that order)

 

[Chuck 54]

Some of you guys worry too much about the CAP. I'm not a huge DMac fan, but paying rookies does not wreck your cap unless they are rookies who go bust.

A super star performing like a super star and making super star money doesn't kill a team, imo.

Besides, I trust the Cowboys front office to know much more about the cap implications than me or anyone else on this board. If JJ were to move up and take DMac, I wouldn't for a second think about our salary cap...our owner has done as great a job with the cap as anyone in recent history, imo.

I'm also not going out on the weak limb of thinking a CB late in round 1 is going to take us further towards a SB than a super star on offense will...I don't buy that for a second even though we do need CB depth at this point.

This is going to be a lot of fun...Even if we select a CB in rounds 2-3, he'll probably upgrade us from where we were last year, and we didn't lose our first playoff game to the Giants because of our secondary play...it was because of our impotent offense at that point.

I think any thought of DMac is very very very much a longshot at this point, but if we do it, it would be foolish to think we just ruined our team by not staying at the bottom of round 1 and getting perhaps the 3rd to 5th best CB and WR or a backup RB.

 

[tyke1doe]

If trading up only costs us our two No. 1s (which is why Jerrah Jones made the trade to begin with), then I don't have a problem with it. Anything more (excluding Carpenter or some other scrub), then no way.

We just lost Reeves (not that he was all that), and we need to replenish the secondary.

But if McFadden is that special back, then I have no problem going up and getting him. And I don't think it's all that unlikely now that the Falcons have signed Turner, the Raiders and Jets iffy about taking him and the Patriots needing to replenish their secondary even more than we do.

 

[tyke1doe]

My only problem with trading up for McFadden is any potential, negative, long-term effects which could impact the roster. McFadden could easily become a franchise player, but if he doesn't, we've lost two solid chances to land very good or great players. Being an SEC fan, I've seen enough of McFadden during his career to know that he's worth the gamble, but it still makes me very nervous.

But this can be said about any first round draft choice. At some point, you have take a risk. So what if they bust? Even having one pick doesn't assure success.

Those are the risks you have to take.

 

[Vertigo_17]

the other thing about drafting McFadden would mean that we either let MBIII go to another team, or we've totally over-invested in the RB position. It just wouldnt make sense to have both at the price it will command.

 

[DallasEast]

But this can be said about any first round draft choice. At some point, you have take a risk. So what if they bust? Even having one pick doesn't assure success.

Those are the risks you have to take.

True... true...