Some things just don't sit well with me...

Oh_Canada;3241045 said:
Both Barber and Columbo shouldn't have played...but because this coaching staff has ZERO guts they put them out there to kill drives and watch mediocre lineman blow by the RT time after time.
I get the impression if they had not played them, but the players had claimed they could have...you would have called the coaching staff gutless anyway. :cool:
 
DFWJC;3241029 said:
Three times early we were down to their 30-35 or so and we kept bogging down.

It was also a freaky 1st half. Similar stas but only 3 points to show for it.

how many times has this happened this season? I think it just about every single one of our games, save our 4 game run at the end of the season.

It's one of the most frustrating things about this team. To see them dominate, easily, and then just step on their own feet and go backwards. Is on the players? The coaches? I don't know exactly but it NEEDS to be fixed if teh team wants to succeed
 
maybe we see why Phillips is 1-6(?) in playoff games now? he should be the DC, JG should clean the showers, and someone with NFL brains and nads should take over the HC position. Props to Wade for beating the Eagles thrice, I get so much joy from that alone, but we'd be so much better if the right personell were in the right positions, both coaching and player wise...
 
Doug Free did very well. There was one play in which Felix broke a long run (and then was subsequently benched) where Free absolutely buried Jared Allen as well.
 
theebs;3240818 said:
that wasnt witten on allen. That was free-witten on allen and free lost his mind and blocked down on williams for no reason at all putting the game out of whack by giving the qb no chance.

look at the technique witten used to block he was banking on inside help the whole time.

Is this hard to figure out? I mean if you have watched football for 5 minutes in your life isnt this one of those things you should be able to see and understand.

The Witten haters are hilarious.
 
Brandon4Cowboys;3241096 said:
maybe we see why Phillips is 1-5 in playoff games now? he should be the DC, JG should clean the showers, and someone with NFL brains and nads should take over the HC position. Props to Wade for beating the Eagles thrice, I get so much joy from that alone, but we'd be so much better if the right personell were in the right positions, both coaching and player wise...
I'm pretty sure his NFL brains are not in question by those who know the prefession-- he is considered extremely knowledgable.
I can't answer for the mans nads one way or the other. :laugh2:

I do think the Cowboys came ready to play. The one thing we really underestimated was our ability to protect Romo on the road (and in the maybe the loudest venue vs maybe the best DLine) with the offensive protection scheme we had designed. The outcome snowballed.

Recall that the team was holding them early and moving the ball well, but each time a key blitz would go unblocked or a silly play (see barber outside toss play for 7 yard loss) would be called and everything would go dead. I think, at least for this game, Wade may have lost some confidence in Garrett. Every week one team wins and one loses...that's how it works. I wish we had gone 19-0 this season but we didn't.

I'm still scratching my head on a few of those plays. lol That long TD pass early to Rice....Sensabaugh looked like Forrest Gump, just running for no reason. He didn't even look for the ball....I thought he might just keep running out of the stadium just like good old Forest did.
 
Bleu Star;3240533 said:
The game was a comedy of errors, miscues, bad personnel groupings with regard to calls made, and poor execution... You name it and we did it. I mean seriously folks... Early in the game when you have 4th & 1 deep in the heart of the enemy's territory and you elect to kick a FG instead of going for it??? Right there early in the 1Q we told the Vikings that we had zero nads... I know hindsight is 20/20 and all but I was disgusted when Wade made the call even before shankham missed the kick. You go for it and give your offense a chance to make a strong statement early in the game... period.

Throughout the game I found myself on numerous occasions wondering "why are they running that play with that package"... Barber is a North South downhill runner. Why on earth would you think you could get to the edge with his slow lumbering ***? Flozell get hurt and you attempt to block Jared Allen with Jason Witten??? Really??? Why not just insert Free??? It took almost getting our QB killed to finally see Free in there at LT... BTW, I think Free may be the future at LT. I keyed on him the rest of the game and he manned up quite well. On one running play to the left he buried Pat Williams into the ground onto his back after pushing him 5 yards off the LOS.

Some things just aren't sitting well with me today. I'm weary about both our HC and OC. How do you go from what we contributed against the Eagles last week to practically not showing up at all? I would like to think there's something to build upon but just can't wrap my mind around exactly what that something is... My only hope is that this loss hurt Jerry just as much as it did some of us. I hope he isn't content with the status quo. Something has got to change...


I think you're on to something. We're suppose to have this big dominating line, and we not only rely on a shakey kicker but when we get inside the 10 yard line, we go Wildcat. One yard run. Then we go back to pass. Huge loss.

We basically move ourselves backwards.

It's not that we lost that bugs me. It's that we make the same mistakes all the time.

Maybe I'm spoiled by the Jimmy Johnson era, but I remember when we didn't have stupid penalties and didn't cough up the ball as much. And this was with an offensive line that has no one going into the Hall of Fame, despite people arguing that Emmitt Smith benefited from an outstanding offensive line.

It all gets back to coaching.

I think the monkey was off our backs with the playoff win and we loss our edge. Then, we couldn't adjust, and we couldn't play to our strengths.

I like Romo. I think he's a great quarterback. But you have to understand your environment. The Vikings game called for a Jets strategy. Run the ball, run the ball and pass occasionally. Play field position. Play defense. Win at the end.

The same game strategy that led to losses against the Broncos and Packers, and could have left us with home field advantage, is the same game plan that "undid" us.
 
tyke1doe;3241352 said:
The same game strategy that led to losses against the Broncos and Packers, and could have left us with home field advantage, is the same game plan that "undid" us.

:hammer:

I was really starting to like Garrett too. The last few weeks he's been doing really good. I thought he turned the corner and learned how to call a complete game..but once we got down against the Vikings, it just seemed like he reverted back to his tricky, too cute, wildcat from the 10 yard line philosophy.

Kind of leads me to believe that he's never really gonna change. Sure we'll see glimpses here and there of his 'genius', but when his offense is pushed around a little he'll push the panic button and call the absolute worst play at the worst possible time. All goes back to what people were saying earlier; Garrett fails at 'situational play calling'....Calls the wrong play at the wrong time and kills the drive.
 
tyke1doe;3241352 said:
I think you're on to something. We're suppose to have this big dominating line, and we not only rely on a shakey kicker but when we get inside the 10 yard line, we go Wildcat. One yard run. Then we go back to pass. Huge loss.

We basically move ourselves backwards.

It's not that we lost that bugs me. It's that we make the same mistakes all the time.

Maybe I'm spoiled by the Jimmy Johnson era, but I remember when we didn't have stupid penalties and didn't cough up the ball as much. And this was with an offensive line that has no one going into the Hall of Fame, despite people arguing that Emmitt Smith benefited from an outstanding offensive line.

It all gets back to coaching.

I think the monkey was off our backs with the playoff win and we loss our edge. Then, we couldn't adjust, and we couldn't play to our strengths.

I like Romo. I think he's a great quarterback. But you have to understand your environment. The Vikings game called for a Jets strategy. Run the ball, run the ball and pass occasionally. Play field position. Play defense. Win at the end.
The same game strategy that led to losses against the Broncos and Packers, and could have left us with home field advantage, is the same game plan that "undid" us.

What are you talking about? Don't you know you can't win like that in this era of the NF of L?:banghead:

Just ask the Jets.;)

At least that's what I've been told when I dared to make similar suggestions.:D

And you can add that strategy also led to losses against the Giants.
 
Gaede;3241465 said:
:hammer:

I was really starting to like Garrett too. The last few weeks he's been doing really good. I thought he turned the corner and learned how to call a complete game..but once we got down against the Vikings, it just seemed like he reverted back to his tricky, too cute, wildcat from the 10 yard line philosophy.

Kind of leads me to believe that he's never really gonna change. Sure we'll see glimpses here and there of his 'genius', but when his offense is pushed around a little he'll push the panic button and call the absolute worst play at the worst possible time. All goes back to what people were saying earlier; Garrett fails at 'situational play calling'....Calls the wrong play at the wrong time and kills the drive.

Well, I'm still hoping for the best. Garrett has such a good head for designing plays, that I keep waiting for him to turn the corner and become better at calling the complete game.

And that includes making adjustments.
 
Things we all know.
When you don't give the D a chance to rest and they stay on the field too long you are in for trouble.
This D made leaps and bounds through the yr and with pretty much 6 new starters that was a nice surprise. Most of these guys are young and will come back better next yr IMHO.
Wade doesn't get to call the offensive plays (he may have called that questionable FG early in the game) but for the most part that is Garrett's deal.
We need a new kicker AGAIN!
Things I think: I would like for Wade to stay, I don't think the team needs to go through that type of turmoil. Garrett needs to go, ever since Ray Lewis said they were the easiest Off. to plan against last yr, I have had my doubts. Nothing this season gave me any more confidence. They had some good offensive games don't get me wrong, but Barry Switzer won a SB here too.
I think we need someone like Mike Martz, probably not him, but somebody to come in and open this Offense up.
I did enjoy this season, a lot,kinda hurt ending like this though.
 
Gaede;3241084 said:
It's one of the most frustrating things about this team. To see them dominate, easily, and then just step on their own feet and go backwards. Is on the players? The coaches? I don't know exactly but it NEEDS to be fixed if teh team wants to succeed
I share your frustration.

casmith07;3241253 said:
Doug Free did very well. There was one play in which Felix broke a long run (and then was subsequently benched) where Free absolutely buried Jared Allen as well.
Cosign. Free is definitely a keeper! So he buried Allen too eh? I missed that one. I did see him bulldog Pat Williams into the ground which is no easy feat. that brought a sparkle to my eye during a time when disappointment was rampant.

fjones;3240751 said:
While I agree with much of your post, I think Free was in on the play where Witten almost got Romo Killed. Free Blocked inside then tried to get out to help, but by that time Allen was on Romo...
I think your'e right and I stand corrected. Regardless, Witten was supposed to help and that didn't happen. He didn't even touch the guy. Thhat said, I'm no Witten hater by any means. Love me some Witten...

Brandon4Cowboys;3241096 said:
maybe we see why Phillips is 1-6(?) in playoff games now? he should be the DC, JG should clean the showers, and someone with NFL brains and nads should take over the HC position. Props to Wade for beating the Eagles thrice, I get so much joy from that alone, but we'd be so much better if the right personell were in the right positions, both coaching and player wise...
This is where I am waffling. On one hand I like what I saw deom Wade in the latter part of the season. On the other hand, I just can't put my arms around how you show up so ill prepared after completely dismantling the Eagles a week ago.

casmith07;3241257 said:
The Witten haters are hilarious.
As stated above, I love me some Witten. I can still recognize when he does something a bit off. He's not perfect you know. ;)

DFWJC;3241332 said:
I'm pretty sure his NFL brains are not in question by those who know the prefession-- he is considered extremely knowledgable.
I can't answer for the mans nads one way or the other. :laugh2:

I do think the Cowboys came ready to play. The one thing we really underestimated was our ability to protect Romo on the road (and in the maybe the loudest venue vs maybe the best DLine) with the offensive protection scheme we had designed. The outcome snowballed.

Recall that the team was holding them early and moving the ball well, but each time a key blitz would go unblocked or a silly play (see barber outside toss play for 7 yard loss) would be called and everything would go dead. I think, at least for this game, Wade may have lost some confidence in Garrett. Every week one team wins and one loses...that's how it works. I wish we had gone 19-0 this season but we didn't.

I'm still scratching my head on a few of those plays. lol That long TD pass early to Rice....TNew looked like Forrest Gump, just running for no reason. He didn't even look for the ball....I thought he might just keep running out of the stadium just like good old Forest did.
I believe you might be on to something regarding Wade's decline in confidence in Red. I'm thinking Red needs to exit stage left... Also, on that play it was Sensebaugh running like Gump. Not TNew... TNew screwed up earlier in the play by letting Rice just run right by him without a chuck.

tyke1doe;3241352 said:
I think you're on to something. We're suppose to have this big dominating line, and we not only rely on a shakey kicker but when we get inside the 10 yard line, we go Wildcat. One yard run. Then we go back to pass. Huge loss.

We basically move ourselves backwards.
It's not that we lost that bugs me. It's that we make the same mistakes all the time.
Maybe I'm spoiled by the Jimmy Johnson era, but I remember when we didn't have stupid penalties and didn't cough up the ball as much. And this was with an offensive line that has no one going into the Hall of Fame, despite people arguing that Emmitt Smith benefited from an outstanding offensive line.

It all gets back to coaching.

I think the monkey was off our backs with the playoff win and we loss our edge. Then, we couldn't adjust, and we couldn't play to our strengths.

I like Romo. I think he's a great quarterback. But you have to understand your environment. The Vikings game called for a Jets strategy. Run the ball, run the ball and pass occasionally. Play field position. Play defense. Win at the end.

The same game strategy that led to losses against the Broncos and Packers, and could have left us with home field advantage, is the same game plan that "undid" us.
Excellent post sir. I may also be a bit spoiled by the Jimmy johnson era but I think you're on to something too.

Gaede;3241465 said:
I was really starting to like Garrett too. The last few weeks he's been doing really good. I thought he turned the corner and learned how to call a complete game..but once we got down against the Vikings, it just seemed like he reverted back to his tricky, too cute, wildcat from the 10 yard line philosophy.

Kind of leads me to believe that he's never really gonna change. Sure we'll see glimpses here and there of his 'genius', but when his offense is pushed around a little he'll push the panic button and call the absolute worst play at the worst possible time. All goes back to what people were saying earlier; Garrett fails at 'situational play calling'....Calls the wrong play at the wrong time and kills the drive.
Garrett is not progressing well as OC IMO. We need someone with a steady mind that is seasoned at getting the right personnel groupings in at the right time and stressing accountability for lack of execution. We need someone not named Red IMO.

Romoware;3241513 said:
Things we all know.
When you don't give the D a chance to rest and they stay on the field too long you are in for trouble.
This D made leaps and bounds through the yr and with pretty much 6 new starters that was a nice surprise. Most of these guys are young and will come back better next yr IMHO.
Wade doesn't get to call the offensive plays (he may have called that questionable FG early in the game) but for the most part that is Garrett's deal.
We need a new kicker AGAIN!
Things I think: I would like for Wade to stay, I don't think the team needs to go through that type of turmoil. Garrett needs to go, ever since Ray Lewis said they were the easiest Off. to plan against last yr, I have had my doubts. Nothing this season gave me any more confidence. They had some good offensive games don't get me wrong, but Barry Switzer won a SB here too.
I think we need someone like Mike Martz, probably not him, but somebody to come in and open this Offense up.
I did enjoy this season, a lot,kinda hurt ending like this though.

Same here. I enjoyed the season as well. I also agree with your assertion that Wade should probably stay and Garrett needs to exit stage left. Every since Jerry signed Garret prior to signing Wade with the thought that Garrett would eventually succeed Wade something about that HC/OC mix just hasn't sat right with me (or Wade either FWIW). Wade is probably deserving of another year but we really should look in another direction at OC....
 
are you joking? free was in there...he doubled one of the DT's...
 
crazytown41;3240541 said:
Nice post. Agree on most accounts

Witten on Allen was absoluetly comical.:(

Crazy, who is the gentleman on the "ho Wants to be a Millionaire" game?
Looks like Vince.
And did he really pick the elephant?
 
STSINAZ;3241868 said:
are you joking? free was in there...he doubled one of the DT's...

:laugh2: Try to read the whole thread bro. If you would have read the post directly above yours you would have noticed I stood corrected on that one play. It appears as though (& I haven't seen it again yet) that Free was in and was supposed to help Witten block Allen who was lined up outside of the TE. Free may have screwed up on that one play but I would have to see it again to believe otherwise. ;) I'm a big Free supporter after having seen the rest of his game. Thank you. Come again sir. ;)
 
GimmeTheBall!;3241886 said:
Crazy, who is the gentleman on the "ho Wants to be a Millionaire" game?
Looks like Vince.
And did he really pick the elephant?

Are you joking?
 
Bleu Star;3241818 said:
I believe you might be on to something regarding Wade's decline in confidence in Red. I'm thinking Red needs to exit stage left... Also, on that play it was Sensebaugh running like Gump. Not TNew... TNew screwed up earlier in the play by letting Rice just run right by him without a chuck.
...
Thanks, that was slip-up on Sensebaugh over the top and TNew blowing it from the start. Good catch.
 
DFWJC;3241975 said:
Thanks, that was slip-up on Sensebaugh over the top and TNew blowing it from the start. Good catch.

Hopefully the Bills will take Garrett off of our hands and faith will be restored! I'm glad Wade will be back next year. If only we could jettison Tecmo Boy...
 
Bleu Star;3240533 said:
Early in the game when you have 4th & 1 deep in the heart of the enemy's territory and you elect to kick a FG instead of going for it???

I have yet to hear a coherent argument with this - I mean normally on a call like that you hear two sides. Nope - near universal disgust and bewilderment. And like you noted, it was a call that signaled weakness. Considering how we had been moving the ball, it was silly.

Throughout the game I found myself on numerous occasions wondering "why are they running that play with that package"... Barber is a North South downhill runner. Why on earth would you think you could get to the edge with his slow lumbering ***?

The use of Barber late in the season was simply bewildering. How many times did he have to fail to convert a 4th and 1 before we figured out he has the vertical lift of Aretha Franklin? Note on our short yardage play we did a quick pitch out to Austin - a smart twist that was a solid gainer.

Some things just aren't sitting well with me today. I'm weary about both our HC and OC.
You and me both brother. Totally unable to make adjustments to game situations - Wade has no freaking idea WHAT is going on over on the offensive side of the ball.

My only hope is that this loss hurt Jerry just as much as it did some of us.

At this stage, Obi Wan Kenobi is your only hope...

I hope he isn't content with the status quo. Something has got to change...

Hey, don't worry, in the words of our perspicacious coach...

"We'll be alright"

Venger
 
Bleu Star;3240533 said:
The game was a comedy of errors, miscues, bad personnel groupings with regard to calls made, and poor execution... You name it and we did it. I mean seriously folks... Early in the game when you have 4th & 1 deep in the heart of the enemy's territory and you elect to kick a FG instead of going for it??? Right there early in the 1Q we told the Vikings that we had zero nads... I know hindsight is 20/20 and all but I was disgusted when Wade made the call even before shankham missed the kick. You go for it and give your offense a chance to make a strong statement early in the game... period.

Throughout the game I found myself on numerous occasions wondering "why are they running that play with that package"... Barber is a North South downhill runner. Why on earth would you think you could get to the edge with his slow lumbering ***? Flozell get hurt and you attempt to block Jared Allen with Jason Witten??? Really??? Why not just insert Free??? It took almost getting our QB killed to finally see Free in there at LT... BTW, I think Free may be the future at LT. I keyed on him the rest of the game and he manned up quite well. On one running play to the left he buried Pat Williams into the ground onto his back after pushing him 5 yards off the LOS.

Some things just aren't sitting well with me today. I'm weary about both our HC and OC. How do you go from what we contributed against the Eagles last week to practically not showing up at all? I would like to think there's something to build upon but just can't wrap my mind around exactly what that something is... My only hope is that this loss hurt Jerry just as much as it did some of us. I hope he isn't content with the status quo. Something has got to change...
as soon as that happened i thought the same thing. why try a long fg with a crappy kicker?
 

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