Something is fishy about Garrett

[Hostile]

I'm not smart enough to evaluate an offensive coordinator. I'm not going to sit here and pretend to have the knowledge that says Garrett is good, or Garrett is bad. I don't have it.

What I do know is... when I played football.... when we went out there and executed the game plan, the coach looked smart. When we went out there and laid an egg, the coach looked like an idiot.

I played OL. What I learned from it, was, when we gave our QB time, he did well. And when we got abused (and there were games that it happened), the offense was out of sorts all game long... and the coaches looked stupid (according to our parents/fans/fellow students/friends).

Yeah, the coaches would try to put us in position to succeed, but ultimately, it hinged upon how we went out and executed it.

No idea if Garrett is a good offensive coordinator or not.
No idea if he will make a good head coach or not.

But I do know, if the players execute poorly, nothing will happen. Regardless of who is calling the plays.

What a fantastic post.

 

[silver]

I'm not smart enough to evaluate an offensive coordinator. I'm not going to sit here and pretend to have the knowledge that says Garrett is good, or Garrett is bad. I don't have it.

What I do know is... when I played football.... when we went out there and executed the game plan, the coach looked smart. When we went out there and laid an egg, the coach looked like an idiot.

I played OL. What I learned from it, was, when we gave our QB time, he did well. And when we got abused (and there were games that it happened), the offense was out of sorts all game long... and the coaches looked stupid (according to our parents/fans/fellow students/friends).

Yeah, the coaches would try to put us in position to succeed, but ultimately, it hinged upon how we went out and executed it.

No idea if Garrett is a good offensive coordinator or not.
No idea if he will make a good head coach or not.

But I do know, if the players execute poorly, nothing will happen. Regardless of who is calling the plays.

this reminds me of a time when Emmitt came back after a contract holdout where we had started 0-2. Nate Newton said: "He makes us look good, without him I'm just another fat guy out there running around" or words to that effect. Impact players make a lot of people look good. Yes you need a strong core but without a different maker or two we are just an average team.

 

[2much2soon]

this reminds me of a time when Emmitt came back after a contract holdout where we had started 0-2. Nate Newton said: "He makes us look good, without him I'm just another fat guy out there running around" or words to that effect. Impact players make a lot of people look good. Yes you need a strong core but without a different maker or two we are just an average team.

That reminds me of arguments I used to have with the Barry Sanders-is-better-than Emmitt Smith crowd.

We all remember the argument; Emmitt Smith is only good because his offensive line is stocked with Hall of Famers.

60% of that Dallas offensive line was composed of a one-time USFL reject (Newton), a converted defensive linemen (Tuinei), and a miniature, loady center (Stepnoski).

They all admitted, at one time or another, that Emmitt made them.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

he's a Ginger

he has no soul

 

[Rampage]

he's a Ginger

he has no soul

he also can't be trusted because he's a Ginger.

DTG
Don't Trust Gingers

 

[Bob Sacamano]

he also can't be trusted because he's a Ginger.

DTG
Don't Trust Gingers

let's go Ginger hunting

 

[Hoofbite]

he also can't be trusted because he's a Ginger.

DTG
Don't Trust Gingers

DTG for life!

 

[Bach]

No idea if Garrett is a good offensive coordinator or not.
No idea if he will make a good head coach or not.

But I do know, if the players execute poorly, nothing will happen. Regardless of who is calling the plays.

So you're of the mindset that coaching is overrated and it all hinges on the players?

Interesting theory.

 

[jobberone]

Normally I'd say the HC is at fault if the offense fails. In our system the HC is really the DC. The offense is Garrett's boy. It has failed the last several games and has not really been on track all year. You should score about 70-80 points for every 1000 yards of offense. We're not near there.

It's Garrett's fault the offense is failing this team. I'll be sick to my stomach if he is the next HC of the Dallas Cowboys. Sick.

 

[Bach]

It's Garrett's fault the offense is failing this team. I'll be sick to my stomach if he is the next HC of the Dallas Cowboys. Sick.

Me too, but we all know he's Jerry's boy and he's had him pegged to take over since the day he hired him.

 

[Cover 2]

Where does our offense currently rank? I am not absolving Garrett of any responsibility, but the inability for this team to close out games and seasons falls directly on the head coach IMO.

That's irrelevent. They're not getting the job done period, and Romo is having a very good season. It's not all Garrett though. The o-line and a certain #2 receiver aren't helping things out.

 

[Vintage]

So you're of the mindset that coaching is overrated and it all hinges on the players?

Interesting theory.

Yes. Because clearly, that is what I said.

Perhaps if I threw in a "jerry sucks" you might have understood it better.

So here it is... belated (admittedly)....


Jerry sucks

 

[Eskimo]

Garrett is to some extent handcuffed by a frighteningly inconsistent and undisciplined OL and much of the blame for that has to fall on the players as apparently good OL coaches in Sporano and Houck have not had much success at getting them to play together as a cohesive unit. I do think major changes need to be made and I would start with Flo - he is the epitome of what I don't want on this roster anymore. He grew up too long in the losing culture of Gailley/Campo to understand what it means to be a professional - he inherited this from Larry Allen who cut his teeth under Barry Switzer.

Getting back to Garrett, I really think he is trying to recreate the 90s Cowboys offense. I know recently some people have suggested that it was Garrett that really coveted RW more than Jerry Jones (not sure if this is true). This would fit with that theory. I suspect he thought he would have had RW = Irvin, TO = Harper, Witten = Novacek, Barber = Emmitt and Romo = Aikman. The thing that perturbs me is that Barber and RW are so inferior to Irvin and Emmitt that the comparison is laughable now. It sometimes seems that he tries to get the players to play to these archetypes instead of accepting what each person does well and adapting the offense to that.

Romo should not be glued to the center of the pocket. It really is not his game. He improvises so well on the move and gives the defense fits. He is a master at handling the ball that we could be running all sorts of fancy play designs but we usually don't. Garrett is happiest when Romo plays like Aikman and he seems to have tried to coach the "Romo" out of Romo.

Barber isn't a full-time elite back yet Garrett treated him in this manner in 2008. He abused a player who was good in his previous role but not meant to the full-time pounding of 25+ carry games. It is just too much punishment for his body and he ruined him in a matter of a few games thinking Barber was Emmitt.

I don't know what he saw in RW to make him think he could be a legit #1 WR in the league. We paid a pretty penny for that slob in money and picks. And for this, we get a guy who puts up slightly better numbers than Crayton was at the #2.

Lastly, I really don't think he has any idea what to do with Felix because we didn't have anything remotely similar to him on the 90s Cowboys. Garrett doesn't know how to make him fit even though he apparently lobbied for him. Perhaps he envisioned Felix as an elite 3rd down RB that we never had to give Emmmitt a break. Instead, he lucks out with a phenom who is capable of averaging 8 ypc in his rookie year and then 9 ypc at the start of his second year. What does he do? He doesn't let him touch the ball more than 10 times a game. That is absolutely crazy and you can't use the fragile excuse because he was doing the same thing before Felix ever had his first injury. Felix doesn't seem to take too many shots and I think he can be an elite RB getting 15-20 touches per game with some of those hopefully in the passing game with a full head of steam breaking away from a LB or out in the flat on a well-executed screen.

Anyways, I guess my point is that I think he tries to design his offense around archetypes instead of around the individual strengths of his players. He fails to my eye to see what is special in some of them (Romo, Austin, Felix, ?Ogletree, ?Choice, ?Bennett) and the limitations in others (Romo, RW, Barber).

I think he needs more seasoning as a position coach before going back to being an OC and then maybe some day a HC. I don't think he entirely grasps the big picture which is why I think he will fail as HC.

Let's go out and find one of those aggressive, workaholic, brilliant young coordinators out there with excellent leadership skills and high football IQ who has had 5-10 years experience in the league. I'm tired of bargain basement coaches (Gailley, Campo) and retreads (Wade, Parcells).

 

[superpunk]

I'm not smart enough...

Great post.

 

[Vintage]

Great post.

I hate you.

 

[superpunk]

Yes. Because clearly, that is what I said.

Perhaps if I threw in a "jerry sucks" you might have understood it better.

So here it is... belated (admittedly)....


Jerry sucks

You have to reduce it down to the lowest common denominator for some people. Monosyllabic grunts are preferred.

 

[jay cee]

So you're of the mindset that coaching is overrated and it all hinges on the players?

Interesting theory.

What a fantastic post.

 

[NinePointOh]

That's irrelevent. They're not getting the job done period, and Romo is having a very good season. It's not all Garrett though. The o-line and a certain #2 receiver aren't helping things out.

If Williams had Austin's stats and Austin had Williams' stats, people would be perfectly happy with both of them.

 

[zrinkill]

Yes. Because clearly, that is what I said.

Perhaps if I threw in a "jerry sucks" you might have understood it better.

So here it is... belated (admittedly)....


Jerry sucks

 

[Denim Chicken]

Everyone is playing directly into his hands. He has intentionally made the offence predictable so everyone will think its predictable, then once in the post season, he will unload all of his different plays and gimmicks, start Choice, have Folk stop intentionally missing field goals; totally confusing and overwhelming the other teams and ultimately winning the Super Bowl. Whoa, he is a genius.