something no 1 has mentioned...Adam Carriker

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BLT;1442556 said:
maybe this is crazy but its just something i thought up. Every 1 is saying we can go best player available since we dont have any major holes so what if Adam Carriker is available at 22? i really like spears and canty and think they have the potential to becomes very good defensive ends for us but its no lie that they havent been living up to their potential. So what if Carriker is there at 22? do we entertain the thought of picking him and letting him challenge for a starting spot? Carriker has the ideal size for a 3-4 DE and is the only defensive end id even think of taking. This being said i still hope we go WR and CB in the 1st 2 rounds but this is just something to discuss...

btw Carriker is 6'6 and a shade under 300

I've actually thought about this, being a Nebraska fan. :)

IMO Carriker will be really good. He's a step above some of the other ends they've had like Chris Kelsey and guys like that. He's not just a blown-up 260 pounder, but a legitimate 290+ guy, and he stood out as by far the best player on that defense, and you could see every line having trouble with him. Great motor, too -- I'd think he might remind Wade of Castillo.

So I'm sure Wade would love to have him. If he's still around at 22 -- depending on who else is there, of course -- I'd think he'd have to be close to the best player on the board. But like the others have said, I just don't see who we'd push out to take him. Maybe if someone offered us a great pick for Spears or something... But I don't see that happening with him carrying a bit of an underachiever tag.
 

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Carriker will be a 49er, unless they do something stupid like draft Meachem at 11.
 

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theogt;1443064 said:
Carriker will be a 49er, unless they do something stupid like draft Meachem at 11.
I agree. He will never fall to 22 even if the 49ers do something stupid. But i would love to have him...
 

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CalCBFan;1443077 said:
I agree. He will never fall to 22 even if the 49ers do something stupid. But i would love to have him...

I'd rather see our own guys develop than use another pick on a 3-4 DE

Spears, Hatcher and Canty are all good talents, they've just been allowed to rot away in a stupid scheme since they've been here

and Spears & Hatcher are both more talented than Carriker from a physical standpoint anyway

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dbair1967;1443107 said:
I'd rather see our own guys develop than use another pick on a 3-4 DE

Spears, Hatcher and Canty are all good talents, they've just been allowed to rot away in a stupid scheme since they've been here

and Spears & Hatcher are both more talented than Carriker from a physical standpoint anyway

David
I like Spears, Hatcher, and Canty just fine. I think they're all pretty good players, and I certainly don't want to waste a 1st on a 3-4 DE. BUT I can't agree that Spears and Hatcher are more talented physically than Carriker. The guy is bigger (or just as big in Spears' case), faster, and stronger than both of them. Neither player was ever rated as high as Carriker.
 

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theogt;1443111 said:
I like Spears, Hatcher, and Canty just fine. I think they're all pretty good players, and I certainly don't want to waste a 1st on a 3-4 DE. BUT I can't agree that Spears and Hatcher are more talented physically than Carriker. The guy is bigger (or just as big in Spears' case), faster, and stronger than both of them. Neither player was ever rated as high as Carriker.

Hatcher ran a sub 4.7. Carriker ran a 4.9. Now i dont have their 10 yard dash stats but Carriker isnt faster than Hatcher.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1443121 said:
Hatcher ran a sub 4.7. Carriker ran a 4.9. Now i dont have their 10 yard dash stats but Carriker isnt faster than Hatcher.
Adam Carriker:
Height: 6060
Weight: 296
40 Yrd Dash: 4.90
20 Yrd Dash: 2.81
10 Yrd Dash: 1.60
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 33
Vertical Jump: 33 1/2
Broad Jump: 9'2"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.18
3-Cone Drill: 7.06

Jason Hatcher:
Height: 6057
Weight: 284
40 Yrd Dash: 4.82
20 Yrd Dash: 2.89
10 Yrd Dash: 1.72
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 28
Vertical Jump: 35 1/2
Broad Jump: 9'5"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.50
3-Cone Drill: 7.68
 

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theogt;1443137 said:
Adam Carriker:
Height: 6060
Weight: 296
40 Yrd Dash: 4.90
20 Yrd Dash: 2.81
10 Yrd Dash: 1.60
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 33
Vertical Jump: 33 1/2
Broad Jump: 9'2"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.18
3-Cone Drill: 7.06

Jason Hatcher:
Height: 6057
Weight: 284
40 Yrd Dash: 4.82
20 Yrd Dash: 2.89
10 Yrd Dash: 1.72
225 Lb. Bench Reps: 28
Vertical Jump: 35 1/2
Broad Jump: 9'5"
20 Yrd Shuttle: 4.50
3-Cone Drill: 7.68

Parcells said they timed Hatcher at 4.7

David
 

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dbair1967;1443191 said:
Parcells said they timed Hatcher at 4.7

David
Scouts' individual times are all over the place. Daymeion Hughes, for example, was reportedly timed at 4.46 at his Pro Day by a scout, but the computers timed him at 4.65 and 4.56 at the Combine and at his Pro Day respectively. Personally, I'd take the computer time over some guy's thumb on a stop watch.
 
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