Something Tim Brown said about leg injuries

[Tawney88]

Cleats are pretty light these days, so I'm sure weight is not the issue. It has to be with the way the cleats grip significantly more than regular athletic shoes, which puts added strain on joints when sprinting and planting. I'm sure something can be attributed to that.

It's likely more about the support inside the shoes. Regular workout/running shoes offer a lot of padding and support to your feet. That and what was mentioned cleats are stiffer.

I'm wondering if the training staff does dynamic stretching or static stretching. I'm assuming with Wociak it may be old school static stretching which could be leading to some if our issues.

 

[lane]

all i know is tim brown was a real football player who deserves to be enshrined in the nfl hall of fame.

one of my most respected players to ever play the game.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

What does he know, its not like he ever played football!

I heard him say that too, and Rocket Ismail said the same thing a year or two ago, when asked about Miles Austin hamstring problems.

 

[AbeBeta]

It's likely more about the support inside the shoes. Regular workout/running shoes offer a lot of padding and support to your feet. That and what was mentioned cleats are stiffer.

I'm wondering if the training staff does dynamic stretching or static stretching. I'm assuming with Wociak it may be old school static stretching which could be leading to some if our issues.

Do you honestly think cleats don't employ the best technologies?

 

[casmith07]

Bottom line is Woicik needs to go. We can't even see if we have any improvement or talent because our guys are always hurt - and not ligament damage, etc, but soft tissue injuries. The kind that are from overuse or improper use.

 

[Bluestang]

I recall a time when Woicik was being hailed as the next best thing to slice bread.

Now he's being shown the door?

 

[lane]

Bottom line is Woicik needs to go. We can't even see if we have any improvement or talent because our guys are always hurt - and not ligament damage, etc, but soft tissue injuries. The kind that are from overuse or improper use.

i think it is a sign of the times brah..

i don't give a damn who the strength and conditioning coach is.......it's up to the player himself to do the right things.

the days of walter payton and jerry rice running up hills are over.

this is due in large part to the salaries these players get today.

 

[Tawney88]

Do you honestly think cleats don't employ the best technologies?

Did you honestly read what I posted?

It isn't about technology, it's about functionality and what one shoe has opposed to a different type of shoe made for two different purposes. What I posted was pretty accurate about the shoes, what I posted about Woicik was speculation.

 

[AbeBeta]

Did you honestly read what I posted?

It isn't about technology, it's about functionality and what one shoe has opposed to a different type of shoe made for two different purposes. What I posted was pretty accurate about the shoes, what I posted about Woicik was speculation.

You have no idea what is in a pro cleat. Do you really believe all the advances in a commercial running shoe don't make it to a pro cleat?

It's a freaking foam insert. #getaclue

 

[cowboys1981]

I think offseason workouts play a role as well. If these players wait until OTA's to get in shape, they risk serious injury.

 

[31smackdown]

I think a lot of injuries happen due to the combination of fatigue and pushing beyond a players typical top end effort. Sudden starts and stops combined with another player exerting force against them, sometimes your brain tries to do things that your body is not ready for. Cleats are just part of that equation in how the force is transferred more suddenly.

 

[Tawney88]

You have no idea what is in a pro cleat. Do you really believe all the advances in a commercial running shoe don't make it to a pro cleat?

It's a freaking foam insert. #getaclue

Lol
You have no idea what I know or what I don't know. It isn't all about a foam insert and if you don't understand the the hard sole that you screw your cleats into isn't stiff than I don't know what to tell you.

 

[AbeBeta]

Lol
You have no idea what I know or what I don't know. It isn't all about a foam insert and if you don't understand the the hard sole that you screw your cleats into isn't stiff than I don't know what to tell you.

You honestly think pro cleats are still 1970s era style?

 

[Tawney88]

You honestly think pro cleats are still 1970s era style?

I don't but that has nothing to do with what I posted.

 

[Bullflop]

I think there must be about as many theories about what causes himstring pulls as there are hamstring pulls.

 

[Frosty]

I think offseason workouts play a role as well. If these players wait until OTA's to get in shape, they risk serious injury.

Just curious what type of stretching exercises and cleats these World Cup Teams use.....you don't see Soccer players coming down with ACL's, high Ankle Strains and as many leg injuries... like in the NFL..

 

[CCBoy]

Cleats are harder to run in and they put additional strain on you legs, anyone can test that theory by throwing a pair on and trying to run sprints. It's always recommended to ease your way into wearing them and working out in them.

I know it can create muscle strains or stress fractures but I'm not sure if the increase of knee injuries van also be attributed to it.

I don't know why not, the foundation not being stable, such as slipping some, is a well known source to blow out a knee.

What affects the foundation reflex alters reaction to direction changes as well. A mental change in just placement of a foot could cause a player to over adjust, by just instinct, and land on his side foot. That would blow out his ankle dramaticly...as full body weight is applied at a different angle and intensity on connective tissue as well.

The thrust can compound up the leg as well...

 

[CCBoy]

I think a lot of injuries happen due to the combination of fatigue and pushing beyond a players typical top end effort. Sudden starts and stops combined with another player exerting force against them, sometimes your brain tries to do things that your body is not ready for. Cleats are just part of that equation in how the force is transferred more suddenly.

Lol, in a preseason conditioning, I went into a coach's PT class that was playing basketball, to get some running in before Fall Practices started. I went up for a rebound, all by myself, tucked the ball to my side and landed on the side of my foot, and blew out my ankle badly. Within ten minutes it was the size of a cantelope.