Sometimes the best defense is a better offense

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If your offense can keep the ball and kill the clock while scoring a few times…. Then you have something.
I agree. Didn’t cowboys not do that to open the game this week? They scored on their first 3 possessions and had two of those drives go for more than 10 plays.
 

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When the Saints went up 7-0 in 1st qtr, why is the 60 million Dollar unable to led the offense down the field and make it 7-7? It seems like the one thing that is always overlooked is Dak not being able to led the offense down the field which is giving the other team more momentum. If Dallas goes down and score and makes it 7-7, it puts the pressure back on Derek Carr to respond. Maybe he is not as confident with the score 7-7 versus 7-0 and may not score on next possession. So you dak fans want to keep saying DEFENSE DEFENSE but sometimes the best defense is a better offense and he has shown he doesnt have the talent to respond when the other offense is playng well. So what excuse will Dak fans come up with to explain why Dak led offense cant tie the game when down 7-0?
somehow, the worst defensive collapse in NFL history became Dak's fault!!! really!!! wow.
 

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I agree. Didn’t cowboys not do that to open the game this week? They scored on their first 3 possessions and had two of those drives go for more than 10 plays.
Well yeah. But NOLA was scoring in bunches. Cowboys were kicking field goals.
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Defense having an off day? The offense has to pick the slack….
 

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Dallas was at the top for offense for a few years. Yea, that didn’t work either. Defense wins championships!
Well obviously won’t be winning here as all the money is and has been invested in offense. I’ve stated since I’ve been a member that defense is underpaid while Dak fans love to place the blame on them.
 

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Well, the flip side of that coin is, if Dak had thrown 6 TD passes and the Cowboys had lost 44-42, the same people would still be on here saying Dak didn't do enough and should have thrown for 7 TDs and the win.
But big problem is he didn’t do this..he got sacked bc he can’t run or feel defense and never has. He had an interception that wasn’t his fault and one was, also should’ve been picked at least two other times in the first game, plus a fumble. He didn’t score 42 so you keep saying what people would do with no evidence. It’s blind assertion just like if, would, could’ve, should’ve etc. it didn’t happen so you don’t know what people would do or say. Fact is Adam sucks and that off eight years of evidence
 

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But big problem is he didn’t do this..he got sacked bc he can’t run or feel defense and never has. He had an interception that wasn’t his fault and one was, also should’ve been picked at least two other times in the first game, plus a fumble. He didn’t score 42 so you keep saying what people would do with no evidence. It’s blind assertion just like if, would, could’ve, should’ve etc. it didn’t happen so you don’t know what people would do or say. Fact is Adam sucks and that off eight years of evidence
I could point out that I didn't "keep saying", I "said" it once. But, that would make me as trivial as your response was. Would it make you happy if I went back and edited my post by adding the word "Probably" to it? :thumbup:
 

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The point is he is paid well enough to make the score 7-7. However he can get it done it needs to be done
Let's say this is even humanly possible, then why not blame CeeDee for not scoring a TD every time he touches the ball. After all, he is the second highest paid WR in the league. He should get open every time the Cowboys need a play, right?

Like I said, what Jerry stupidly paid Dak does not make Dak a better QB, or a worse QB. He is just a good QB who plays well but not great. Instead of building a team for for Dak, Jerry has foolishly concluded he can win with 4 or 5 overpaid stars and 50 JAGs.

Jerry giving Dak $60 million a year was a historic mistake by Jerry. And Dak will never play to that salary. But blaming Dak for the loss on Sunday is kind of ridiculous and discredits the Dak haters. The Saints had 14 points on 8 plays Sunday. They score a TD the first 6 times they touched the football, just like GB. At some point the attention has to go to the defense that allows teams that kind of production.
 

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When the Saints went up 7-0 in 1st qtr, why is the 60 million Dollar unable to led the offense down the field and make it 7-7? It seems like the one thing that is always overlooked is Dak not being able to led the offense down the field which is giving the other team more momentum. If Dallas goes down and score and makes it 7-7, it puts the pressure back on Derek Carr to respond. Maybe he is not as confident with the score 7-7 versus 7-0 and may not score on next possession. So you dak fans want to keep saying DEFENSE DEFENSE but sometimes the best defense is a better offense and he has shown he doesnt have the talent to respond when the other offense is playng well. So what excuse will Dak fans come up with to explain why Dak led offense cant tie the game when down 7-0?
Times like last year when we had to score on almost every drive in the Seattle game which Prescott won for us? Or are we talking about last year as well when prescott let us down and got us....mi game and our defense couldn't hold? Are we talking about the time a couple years back in the New England game where he brought us back and tied the game right before overtime and then in overtime one pass to see the lamb? I mean you wanna go all the way back to say his rookie year he brought us back 3 times inthe GB payoffs only to have the defense blow it agian,.

because he does this yearly, he does help us win when the D isn't perfect, but not when his defense gives up 40+ ******* points 2 out of the last 3 games now your post has no water it's absolutely ridiculous this defense is so horrible it's setting record that's since 1960 this defense gave up more points in the first half ever!@!!

You want all offense to be able to answer every time and then you blame the quarterback how about everyone else how about the run game the offensive line to play collar how about the receivers being in the right place and reading the play to where they get over it where the ball should go instead of where they think it should go? Are you watching these run games especially in the playoffs under 3 yards per carry look at it this year I mean they're hardly a weapon you want Prescott to do everything you want to cover up the run game the offensive line the defense everything is that what you're saying I mean you're just blowing up words onto a paper like throw up when everybody knows the defense is 100% to blame for our two big losses in the last three games...

How about this how about ask jalen brooks or whatever the hell his name is to not slip on a perfect pass and cause an interception that would have brought the game probably within 8 but it was like a 14 point swing and I'm just blowing numbers up off my mouth because I really don't wanna go back and look but Prescott after this defense has shown two out of last three games it can't even make one stop he was gonna keep us within one score even after all this horrible stuff in his receiver slips down and causes an interception that changed the entire nature of this game...

So before you start saying these things after a game in which we know where all the problems were is defense the defensive coordinator the run game and the offensive coordinators play calling was less than aggressive all game he doesn't know how to play against this type of defense he just keeps taking and dunking and throwing the balls to the edges doesn't even try to get the ball downfield and you're blaming the quarterback?~~

this **** doesn't fly with me in here yes there are some games where the offense could play better and help the defense but I'm tired of hearing protect the defense that's all we hear around here is we score too fast in the Miami game and left too much time on the clock because we don't trust our defense..

The defense has been more the problem over the last two decades in big games against better teams than all offense all offense has been top three or number one more times than I can count but our defense has sucked more times than I can count..

RANT OVER
 

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Let's say this is even humanly possible, then why not blame CeeDee for not scoring a TD every time he touches the ball. After all, he is the second highest paid WR in the league. He should get open every time the Cowboys need a play, right?

Like I said, what Jerry stupidly paid Dak does not make Dak a better QB, or a worse QB. He is just a good QB who plays well but not great. Instead of building a team for for Dak, Jerry has foolishly concluded he can win with 4 or 5 overpaid stars and 50 JAGs.

Jerry giving Dak $60 million a year was a historic mistake by Jerry. And Dak will never play to that salary. But blaming Dak for the loss on Sunday is kind of ridiculous and discredits the Dak haters. The Saints had 14 points on 8 plays Sunday. They score a TD the first 6 times they touched the football, just like GB. At some point the attention has to go to the defense that allows teams that kind of production.
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right the miserable fans that keep blaming the offense and Prescott because they hate him and they hate that he got paid forget that there's other players on this team how is Zach Martin getting poked after he got that big raise I mean why is Terrence Steele not doing his job after he got his big raise Ezekie Elliott hasn't showed up in a big game in years when he was making more money than any other running back in the league but right now let's stick to Michael Parsons he's on his 50th option he makes a lot of money where was he in this game where was that entire defense in this game where was tank where was tame on Nick's didn't he get a big credit check I mean why aren't they all these guys on the team doing their job bully always circles back to the quarterback!!!

This blame on the quarterback gets old and by the way we did see Prescott do that in the Seattle game literally went score for score end up winning the game but nobody even compliments him on that that would've had been the only way we won this game is to go score for score is that what you're asking an offense to do is never punt and score on every drive because that's the best way to win games it's just to outscore your opponent in 40 plus point games? LMAO there are some super casual fans that shouldn't be allowed to post because that's what's going on in here I do this with circle back to the offense I knew the way people were talking during the game they thought we should score more touchdowns and it's gonna be on the offense it's gonna be on Prescott 'cause he just got paid $60 million the highest paid player in the league should be like creating wins and pulling things out but to win!!!
 

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Lol jesus...this might be the dumbest football thread ever...tell me you dont understand how football works without actually saying it...you sound like the wife that walks in the room and says "Why dont they just score one of those TD thingy's?"
 

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Yay another Dak sucks! thread
Not really the fans just want him to lead and he finds that difficult every time we get bloody noses he just can't stop the bleeding. I support Dak as long as he is our qb. But am not sold on his ability to take over games in which we fall behind in. What he makes is irrelevant to me. JUST LEAD....AND WIN.
 

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Its a team game, Can't win when the defense can't stop your grandma running the ball.
 

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Dak is rewriting the Cowboys record books. Threw for almost 300 yards. Biggest contract in history. What are you guys on about. Everything is going great.
 

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When the Saints went up 7-0 in 1st qtr, why is the 60 million Dollar unable to led the offense down the field and make it 7-7? It seems like the one thing that is always overlooked is Dak not being able to led the offense down the field which is giving the other team more momentum. If Dallas goes down and score and makes it 7-7, it puts the pressure back on Derek Carr to respond. Maybe he is not as confident with the score 7-7 versus 7-0 and may not score on next possession. So you dak fans want to keep saying DEFENSE DEFENSE but sometimes the best defense is a better offense and he has shown he doesnt have the talent to respond when the other offense is playng well. So what excuse will Dak fans come up with to explain why Dak led offense cant tie the game when down 7-0?
The Saints scored 35 points in the first half. The best fix for that is not scoring 35 points, it's stopping the Saints from scoring. This isn't a problem on offense. It's Zimmer's defense that failed. But you Dak haters seem not to be able to see this.
 

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When the Saints went up 7-0 in 1st qtr, why is the 60 million Dollar unable to led the offense down the field and make it 7-7? It seems like the one thing that is always overlooked is Dak not being able to led the offense down the field which is giving the other team more momentum. If Dallas goes down and score and makes it 7-7, it puts the pressure back on Derek Carr to respond. Maybe he is not as confident with the score 7-7 versus 7-0 and may not score on next possession. So you dak fans want to keep saying DEFENSE DEFENSE but sometimes the best defense is a better offense and he has shown he doesnt have the talent to respond when the other offense is playng well. So what excuse will Dak fans come up with to explain why Dak led offense cant tie the game when down 7-0?
I think some fans just watch different games depending on what you want to see. I saw a defense that gave up 6 straight tds, how many games do teams win when that happens? Objectively no one can say Dak had a good game, but at the same time could any QB win with how the defense played?

For the first drive the Cowboys drive stalled after the holding call on Guyton. Next play was a 3 yard run, then a short pass to Turpin that went no where which brought up 3rd and 18. Dak under threw a potential play to Dowdle down the field a little earlier on that drive and just needed to lay it out a little further to give him a chance. Still would have been a tough catch for an RB. The reality is penalties are drive killers and set them back on drive 1.
 

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This isn't going to go over very well for you. Dak could throw 9 pick 6's and the stans would still blame the defense.
I don't think that's true, but bias does exist on both sides of the Dak argument. If he threw 4 tds Dak haters would say he should have had 5 or got bailed out on a poor throw that could have been an int. If he had a terrible game and threw 4 ints an unconditional Dak lover would say they weren't his fault, etc. The truth is always somewhere inbetween.
 
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