Source: Bolt's representatives have been pushing for Chris Johnson race

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hornitosmonster;3320880 said:
But even so, Bolt leaving the blocks would still be better then CJ leaving the blocks. Bolt does this for a living. His block skill is still above the top NFL'ers (even if they did run track).

And NFL players use speed for a living. NFL has players who could hold their own in track and as you mention some were track men in college.

As I said outside of 40 Bolt blows them away he is the fastest man on earth right now but his speed out of the blocks is ordinary not spectacular once he gains his stride he will blow away anyone.
 

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The folks at NBC Olympics previously have determined that Bolt's 40-yard split from his world-record time in the 100-meter dash during the 2008 Summer Games in Beijing was "a hair slower" than Johnson's 40-yard dash at the Scouting Combine. And the fact is at the combines everyone knows they run on a much slower surface which is why you see guys put up better numbers on Pro days than they tend to do at the Combines
 

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Johnson couldn't even beat Trindon Holliday in a 100 yard dash, much less Usain Bolt.
 

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WoodysGirl;3320790 said:
The folks at NBC Olympics previously have determined that Bolt's 40-yard split from his world-record time in the 100-meter dash during the 2008 Summer Games in Beijing was "a hair slower" than Johnson's 40-yard dash at the Scouting Combine.

That's because Bolt is reacting to a starting gun (adds .15 seconds to his time, on average), and the guy timing Johnson is reacting to Johnson starting to run (subtracts at least .1 seconds from his time).

Bolt's running time over the first 40 yards for two of his world record 100s were 4.19 and 4.20 seconds. Johnson's "official" time at the Combine was 4.24, but his actual running time would be at least 4.34.
 

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Doomsday101;3320892 said:
The folks at NBC Olympics previously have determined that Bolt's 40-yard split from his world-record time in the 100-meter dash during the 2008 Summer Games in Beijing was "a hair slower" than Johnson's 40-yard dash at the Scouting Combine. And the fact is at the combines everyone knows they run on a much slower surface which is why you see guys put up better numbers on Pro days than they tend to do at the Combines

As well as the NFL would be slower against an Olympic clock and gun. Remember that Johnson's time is unofficial. We can go round for round, Bolt is faster and his profession is track while CJ profession is football.

Do you understand the following?

In track and field races, the runner must react to the starting gun, which takes approximately 0.24 seconds, based on FAT timing. For electronically timed 40-yard dashes, the runner is allowed to start when he wishes, and a timer hand-starts the clock.
so what would CJ's time be with a starting gun? Well Chris is human so add accordingly...And sit back and realize that Bolt is really that fast...
 
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hornitosmonster;3320887 said:
ESPN estimates Bolt's time at 3.53 (that is what it averages out to). Of course the first 40 would be slower but not by much. still close to sub 4...It has to be close to sub 4 or he is running at an unreal speed the 2nd half/split.


lol...read the article man. It cleary states Johnson ran a faster 40 time then Bolt at his 40 YD split.

"The folks at NBC Olympics previously have determined that Bolt's 40-yard split from his world-record time in the 100-meter dash during the 2008 Summer Games in Beijing was "a hair slower" than Johnson's 40-yard dash at the Scouting Combine."

Therfore Bolt wouldn't run anything close to a sub 4. He starts getting freakishly fast at about 60 M.
 

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hornitosmonster;3320910 said:
As well as the NFL would be slower against an Olympic clock and gun. Remember that Johnson's time is unofficial. We can go round for round, Bolt is faster and his profession is racing while CJ profession is football.

Do you understand the following?



so what would CJ's time be with a starting gun? Well Chris is human so add accordingly...And sit back and realize that Bolt is really that fast...

I understand do you understand at the combine they are in a 3 point stance running on turf where you will have some slippage, in track you are running on a much different surface using blocks to get a push. Sorry there are guys in the NFL who could very well put up quality track times. Beyond 40 it is no constest at 40 it is.
 
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Chocolate Lab;3320899 said:
Johnson couldn't even beat Trindon Holliday in a 100 yard dash, much less Usain Bolt.


you think? Lol that would be a good race. Johnsons 40 time was faster by quite a bit.
 

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Blah, blah, blah .... Buehler dusts 'em both .... with a girl attached to one leg.
 

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lol...read the article man. It cleary states Johnson ran a faster 40 time then Bolt at his 40 YD split.

"The folks at NBC Olympics previously have determined that Bolt's 40-yard split from his world-record time in the 100-meter dash during the 2008 Summer Games in Beijing was "a hair slower" than Johnson's 40-yard dash at the Scouting Combine."

Therfore Bolt wouldn't run anything close to a sub 4. He starts getting freakishly fast at about 60 M.


Understand the difference between a starting gun and what they do at the NFL Combine...

Doomsday, does Indy play of natural turf? I will answer for you, No. There is no watering on artificial turf...It is rare to slip with the proper equipment on fake grass. Sorry, but the reality of reaction times vs the gun is real. And the fact is that CJ time doesn't even start until another person sees him move (so you have that reaction time on top). Check NBC's estimate and subtract 0.24 seconds off Bolt. Add 0.24 seconds to CJ's time.
 

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hornitosmonster;3320933 said:
Understand the difference between a starting gun and what they do at the NFL Combine...

Doomsday, does Indy play of natural turf? I will answer for you, No. There is no watering on artificial turf...It is rare to slip with the proper equipment on fake grass. Sorry, but the reality of reaction times vs the gun is real. And the fact is that CJ time doesn't even start until another person sees him move (so you have that reaction time on top). Check NBC's estimate and subtract 0.24 seconds off Bolt. Add 0.24 seconds to CJ's time.

There is a major difference from the tracks that are used in track and field than turf as well as the footwear where there is hardly any slippage and yes there is an amount of slippage on turf not as much as grass but much more than the composite tracks that are used in track and field not to mention the track shoes which are much easier to run in than cleats. Sorry you evidently have not played football or ran track there is an ample difference when time is measured in 10's of second.
 

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CanuckCowboysFan;3320920 said:
you think? Lol that would be a good race. Johnsons 40 time was faster by quite a bit.

It wouldn't even be a good race.

For the record, Jacoby Ford would smoke Johnson as well.

I wish people would understand and believe what Adam posted, but we know from experience that most won't. I guess it hurts the CJ = Superman image.
 

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Doomsday101;3320957 said:
There is a major difference from the tracks that are used in track and field than turf as well as the footwear where there is hardly any slippage and yes there is an amount of slippage on turf not as much as grass but much more than the composite tracks that are used in track and field not to mention the track shoes which are much easier to run in than cleats. Sorry you evidently have not played football or ran track there is an ample difference when time is measured in 10's of second.

Of course I have played football and ran track. It doesn't happen (slipping like you say). Please post a video of CJ slipping when he ran his record time. The start gun is documented (scientific) fact.
 

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CanuckCowboysFan;3320913 said:
lol...read the article man. It cleary states Johnson ran a faster 40 time then Bolt at his 40 YD split.

"The folks at NBC Olympics previously have determined that Bolt's 40-yard split from his world-record time in the 100-meter dash during the 2008 Summer Games in Beijing was "a hair slower" than Johnson's 40-yard dash at the Scouting Combine."

Therfore Bolt wouldn't run anything close to a sub 4. He starts getting freakishly fast at about 60 M.

The article is wrong, and Bolt's 40-yard running time easily beats Johnson's.
 

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hornitosmonster;3320974 said:
Of course I have played football and ran track. It doesn't happen (slipping like you say). Please post a video of CJ slipping when he ran his record time. The start gun is documented (scientific) fact.

There is slippage that takes place there is a Hugh difference in traction of a composite track vs turf. Every weekend we see guys slipping on turf in the NFL just coming out of the stance to be handed the ball you do not have in track. If you ran on the 2 different surfaces turf and composite track are you saying your time would be the exact same?
 

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Doomsday101;3320988 said:
There is slippage that takes place there is a Hugh difference in traction of a composite track vs turf. Every weekend we see guys slipping on turf in the NFL just coming out of the stance to be handed the ball you do not have in track. If you ran on the 2 different surfaces turf and composite track are you saying your time would be the exact same?

please post video of Johnson slipping on his "record" run. You cannot dispute reaction time to a gun as it is documented fact. But you can post video of CJ slipping (hint: he didn't slip)
 

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hornitosmonster;3320992 said:
please post video of Johnson slipping on his "record" run. You cannot dispute reaction time to a gun as it is documented fact. But you can post video of CJ slipping (hint: he didn't slip)

The slippage is small you would have to put it in slow motion to see any slipping but you do not have the same traction as you do on a track surface. Please tell me that your time would be the same on turf compared to a track surface? It isn't. At the combines you are in a 3 point stance no assistance from having blocks to push off from that is a big difference the blocks allow you to explode off the mark in a 3 point stance you do not get that.
 

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Doomsday101;3320826 said:
In the 100 meter yes Bolt blows Johnson off the track. However is a shorter race Johnson could hold his own. Bolt is a long strider and it takes a bit for him to get to top speed

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If it's 40 yards or less, it would be very close.

>40 yards on up to 100 and Bolt pulls further and further away. It woulld not even be close if they ran 100 meters....obviously
 
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