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[peplaw06]

no i would say outside of violent crimes this country bases their laws on economics. Tax laws, zoning laws, property laws, etc.

Zoning laws have a great deal to do with morality also. I don't want a strip club next to my kid's school. Property laws??? Almost all morality.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Fuzz, did your gf pass the bar?

yes she did. why?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Zoning laws have a great deal to do with morality also. I don't want a strip club next to my kid's school. Property laws??? Almost all morality.

the primary basis for zoning laws is economic. in fact in almost all laws you can find an economic impetus. the two are not mutually exclusive.

 

[peplaw06]

yes she did. why?

Just wondering... I remembered you mentioning her taking it. Tell her congrats. I feel compelled to tell everyone good job for passing it, whether I know em or not. It's no picnic.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well who put the pressure on the legislature to put the kibash on the industry? It wouldn't be people who felt morally compelled to act against it would it? hmmmm?

And are there not many people that are strongly against the meat industry? Hmmmmm.

 

[peplaw06]

the primary basis for zoning laws is economic. in fact in almost all laws you can find an economic impetus. the two are not mutually exclusive.

No they're not... but my point is there's a moral basis for most laws. Much much more so than economics.

 

[peplaw06]

And are there not many people that are strongly against the meat industry? Hmmmmm.

Of course not. People are not attached to cows, and they eat them. Most people that OWN cows own them for food.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Of course not. People are not attached to cows, and they eat them. Most people that OWN cows own them for food.

vegetarians most certainly are, they can't take the vision of an animal being slaughtered

btw, I passed the bar...

mitzvah

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Just wondering... I remembered you mentioning her taking it. Tell her congrats. I feel compelled to tell everyone good job for passing it, whether I know em or not. It's no picnic.

iappreciate it mang. now if i can just finish my graduate work i think I may get the courage to ask her to marry me.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

No they're not... but my point is there's a moral basis for most laws. Much much more so than economics.

i disagree. economics is a common demoninator that everyone understands.

 

[peplaw06]

vegetarians most certainly are, they can't take the vision of an animal being slaughtered

Vegetarians are not people...

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[FuzzyLumpkins]

Of course not. People are not attached to cows, and they eat them. Most people that OWN cows own them for food.

and again i understand why the law exists i just dont think that is a good basis for forming a law.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I've posted plenty in which you've yet to find a suitable argument to counter w/

no you havent.

name one argument that you came up with on your own and I didnt counter.

 

[peplaw06]

i disagree. economics is a common demoninator that everyone understands.

Well hate to break it to you, but there are entire segments of the law where economics play little to no part. My specialties, Criminal and Family law to name a few.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

no you havent.

name one argument that you came up with on your own and I didnt counter.

this whole thread has been my argument

and I said effectively counter

 

[peplaw06]

and again i understand why the law exists i just dont think that is a good basis for forming a law.

Is economics the only good reason to form a law?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

this whole thread has been my argument

and I said effectively counter

like i said posit something or go away. you arent cool nor cute.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Is economics the only good reason to form a law?

no im just saying it is one. i have yet to define good it is actually one thing i am working towards.

 

[peplaw06]

no im just saying it is one. i have yet to define good it is actually one thing i am working towards.

I'm sorry, are you saying that you are working towards what is a good reason to form a law?

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Well hate to break it to you, but there are entire segments of the law where economics play little to no part. My specialties, Criminal and Family law to name a few.

and i can come up with economic basis for all of them.

as for childrens protection it is good for the long term viability and ability to compete to educate and protect children.

ownership is the absolute basis for economy. without it capitalism is impossible. murder is an economic deterrent and a waste of human resources.

like i said they are not mutually exclusive.