Sources: Big 12, SEC champs to play

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http://espn.go.com/college-football...g-12-sec-champions-meet-bowl-game-sources-say

The champions of the Big 12 and SEC conferences will meet in a bowl game annually, sources have told ESPN.com.

The agreement will begin with the 2014 season, with the champions of each conference meeting provided that neither team is in the BCS national championship game.

The style of the agreement will be similar to the one the Rose Bowl has with the Big Ten and Pac-12 conferences.

The site of this bowl game is still undetermined. The Big 12 and SEC conferences are expected to make an official announcement at noon ET.


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Do you think some of the Football teams in the ACC are thinking about bolting even more now...also think about Notre Dame eventually joining a Conference as well.

Interesting times.
 

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BrAinPaiNt;4565292 said:
http://espn.go.com/college-football...g-12-sec-champions-meet-bowl-game-sources-say

The champions of the Big 12 and SEC conferences will meet in a bowl game annually, sources have told ESPN.com.

The agreement will begin with the 2014 season, with the champions of each conference meeting provided that neither team is in the BCS national championship game.

The style of the agreement will be similar to the one the Rose Bowl has with the Big Ten and Pac-12 conferences.

The site of this bowl game is still undetermined. The Big 12 and SEC conferences are expected to make an official announcement at noon ET.


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Do you think some of the Football teams in the ACC are thinking about bolting even more now...also think about Notre Dame eventually joining a Conference as well.

Interesting times.

I like that move.
 

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That's seems smart. It should usually be a great game.

But if there's a four team playoff (vs taking two after the bowl season is over) that may eliminate a worthy final four team.

Then again, it would be very hard to argue that the winner of the Big Ten or Pac 10 should be shoo-ins for the final four as well.

Can't wait to see how this falls out.
 

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it seems to me like they are setting this up as a super conference, 4 team playoff, no? pac 12 vs big 10 in one game, SEC vs big 12 in the other?

thats just me trowing crap at the wall and hoping it sticks, but i do hope this game is played in cowboys stadium under the cotton bowl brand!
 

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BrAinPaiNt;4565292 said:
The agreement will begin with the 2014 season, with the champions of each conference meeting in the BCS national championship game.

Fixed. :D
 

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The two best and most competitive conferences...plus you know the tv coverage of a potential OU/ UT matchup with LSU/ Alabama is too much for the ratings to resist.

Will get to test the reputations of Big 12 offensive explosion and SEC supposed stonewall defense against one another.
 

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MC KAos;4565408 said:
it seems to me like they are setting this up as a super conference, 4 team playoff, no? pac 12 vs big 10 in one game, SEC vs big 12 in the other?

thats just me trowing crap at the wall and hoping it sticks, but i do hope this game is played in cowboys stadium under the cotton bowl brand!
If you're right then basically one game is the NFC Championship and the other is a wildcard matchup.
 

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Aikbach;4565470 said:
The two best and most competitive conferences...plus you know the tv coverage of a potential OU/ UT matchup with LSU/ Alabama is too much for the ratings to resist.

this might make a potential renegotiation with the TV companies even bigger if FSU and one other school decide to come over
 

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Aikbach;4565470 said:
The two best and most competitive conferences....
These things go in cycles. The SEC has been rolling again for a while now. The other conference cylce in and out of power though. The Big 12 can make a good argument as #2 right now though.
In 5-10 years? Who knows.

In any case, SEC/Big12 sounds like fun.
 

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As I think about this, this could be a powerful incentive for ND to the Big 12. If they were to come over, That would put them in a division with, in all likelihood, Kansas, KSt., ISU, WV and probably one other. Depending on who the other might be, the only school you really have to worry about would be WV. That increases their chances greatly to play in a Big12 Championship game, a Big12 SEC Bowl game or a NC game if they are good enough. That puts a lot more money in their pockets IMO. Heck, even if they don't play in any of those games, the worst they are likely to do is play in a Bowl similar to the one they are already playing in at the end of the season.
 

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ABQCOWBOY;4565559 said:
Might be the only way you see a Texas/TAMU rematch.

:laugh2: :lmao2: :lmao:


Sorry, I love the Aggies but they are not winning the SEC... possibly ever...
 

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Cythim;4565662 said:
:laugh2: :lmao2: :lmao:


Sorry, I love the Aggies but they are not winning the SEC... possibly ever...

well, maybe there will be a mcrib nacagdoches bowl or something with the 8th best team in each conference playing each other....at least you guys could play tech again...
 

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DFWJC;4565488 said:
These things go in cycles. The SEC has been rolling again for a while now. The other conference cylce in and out of power though. The Big 12 can make a good argument as #2 right now though.
In 5-10 years? Who knows.

In any case, SEC/Big12 sounds like fun.
The BCS actually ranked the Big 12 one overall this past season, and that was with 5 BCS ranked teams, with the addition of TCU and WVU the Big 12 returns 7 BCS ranked teams to the field in 2012.
 

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So what now? Where do the at-large teams go?

Didn't both of those conferences host an at-large team?

So now you basically get 2 at-large teams playing against each other every year no matter what?


Currently:

Rose Bowl – Big Ten champion vs. Pac-12 champion

Fiesta Bowl – Big 12 champion vs. at large

Orange Bowl – ACC champion vs. at large

Sugar Bowl – SEC champion vs. at large

The Big East champion takes one of the remaining spots


Lets assume the Big 12 moves to what is currently the Sugar Bowl in exchange for the at-large.

You get,

Rose Bowl – Big Ten champion vs. Pac-12 champion

Fiesta Bowl – at large vs. at large

Orange Bowl – ACC champion vs. at large

Sugar Bowl – SEC champion vs. Big 12 champion

The Big East champion takes one of the remaining spots

So now, instead of expecting many potential David vs. Goliath matchups where small schools come in to challenge large schools, the Fiesta Bowl will become the "Tostitos Fiesta-Little League Bowl" and teams like TCU and BSU will forever be relegated to playing each other just to appease the ego of the BCS?

I know that's not written in stone but it's painfully obvious even from right now.

And it's not like they didn't do this sort of stuff anyway. They did it in 2009 wen Boise and TCU met. Boise #6 and TCU #4 and for whatever reason (cowardice most likely, the BCS didn't want to expose two AQ teams to a potential loss) #3 Cincinnati played #5 Florida.

I dunno. Maybe I'm looking too much into it but it seems like having a fewer number of potential games where at-large's play AQs sure allows the BCS to pretty much relegate the small programs to an annual matchup.

Non-AQs get 2 bids max. The Big East has only played 1 Non-AQ conference team during their filling in role and that was the year they played Utah who met a criteria to gain an automatic bid and who later pissed all over the Big East.

So that narrows things down a bit more.

Here's something else. I'm not totally sure but I don't think that a BCS at large school has ever been matched up against a Non-AQ conference at large school. Granted the sample size is small but not so small as to be ignored.

Now, there have been 2 instances where Non-AQ teams met criteria and earned the automatic bid but looking at these games just makes me shake my head even more.

2007: #5 Georgia (BCS at large) vs. #10 Hawaii (Automatic Non-AQ WAC Champ)

At the same time #8 Kansas (BCS at large) vs. #3 VT (ACC Champ)

This came a year after Boise stunned Oklahoma. Just seems funny that a year after the BCS was caught with egg on it's face that the matchup for the next Non-AQ team would ranking-wise be a little widened. Almost like a, "we'll end this nonsense for good" type of move.

2008: #6 Utah (Automatic Non-AQ MWC Chap) vs. #4 Alabama (BCS at large)

Same time: #3 Texas (Met Criteria For AQ) vs. #10 Ohio State (BCS at large)

Again, a little funny to me.

2009 of course was the year I was talking about earlier where the BCS just said "screw it" and denied both TCU and BSU the chance to play a few of the big schools.

Of course, these nonsensical types of ranking match ups happen all the time but it's just interesting to see the course of events.

2006: BCS reluctantly gives a small school a crack at an AQ school and Boise defeats Oklahoma.

2007: Hawaii faces a much, much tougher opponent and is handled.

2008: Utah gets their turn at an opponent ranked ahead of them while a third team ranked ahead of both Utah and it's opponent has to play a team ranked lower than everyone.

2009: Boise / TCU get shafted into playing in a consolation bowl.

Now they're going to reduce the number of games that at large teams play in by condensing two at large teams into a single game every year.

BCS sucks.

Anything they do that doesn't involve killing itself is just a waste of time.

If ever there are 2 small schools getting bids, I'm convinced they'll play one another.
 

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MC KAos;4565689 said:
ya, that OSU/LSU game last year proved that....oh wait....

2004 Sugar Bowl
2009 Orange Bowl
2009 Cotton Bowl
2010 Cotton Bowl
2010 Rose Bowl
2011 Cotton Bowl
2012 Cotton Bowl

I could go on, but the numbers break down like this: The SEC has won 21 of the last 25 matchups against Big XII teams, including 14 of the last 15 in bowl games. Of those 21 victories, I believe 14 were double digit victories.

And spare me the "A&M bias". This trend has been going on before A&M to the SEC was even a flirtation and I've held this opinion for years: The SEC is simply better, and the numbers say it isnt close. Big XII teams, much like Pac-12 teams, win with schemes. SEC teams win by out-athleting everyone else. In the end, the SEC usually proves to be a culture shock to finesse Big XII teams used to softer defenses, which is a big reason why I think A&m will really struggle at least for a time in the SEC. It's a huge physical adjustment that is hard to make over the course of several seasons, let alone during a season.
 

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MC KAos;4565689 said:
ya, that OSU/LSU game last year proved that....oh wait....

lol @ this

OSU was gift wrapped a fiesta bowl victory over Stanford

You honestly think OSU was deserving of a championship game birth?!?
 
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