Speculation: Brady Quinn possibly ineligible for 2006?!?!

burmafrd

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As has been pointed out, as long as no agreement is reached, its ok. Only if you agree are you ineligible. Considering the source, this thing was totally bogus. Just it makes headlines and shows that whoever is running that rag does not care how much contempt most have for it.
 

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pittdawg said:
just from my own experience, i would be completely surprised if anyone had agreed with an agent.
my guess is that the players have narrowed the field down to a managible number and told the rest they aren't interested. it can get very hectic and distracting to the player when not only agents, but financial advisors call all the time. it became so distracting that rob got a new cell phone and didn't answer the old number unless he had free time.


Is THAT why Rob never answered my phone calls??? :)
 

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Where there is smoke...

For example: I have a very hard time believing that Reggie Bush had no idea how his family moved into this new plush home.
 

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this is notre dame we're talking about. knowing the ncaa and the lovefest notre dame gets, they'll probably change the rule to say "except for notre dame"
 

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DanTanna said:
Is THAT why Rob never answered my phone calls??? :)

could be, but for sure he used that excuse to get me to spring for the second cell phone. i'm still paying for it. ( not much it's on my family plan.)
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:

How many wows are you going to post in regards to this BS? ProFootball Weekly? You're going to believe that rag? Weis is no idiot. He was very careful that Zbikowski retained his eligibility with his fight a few weeks ago. Sounds like wishful thinking on the ProFootball Weekly staff and yourself. ND haters crawling out of the woodwork. ND is back and here to stay. Deal with it.
 

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pittdawg said:
could be, but for sure he used that excuse to get me to spring for the second cell phone. i'm still paying for it. ( not much it's on my family plan.)

haha. Seems like he should be paying for it at this point.

Smart guy, manipulate your parents for as long as you possibly can.
 

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Glenn Carano said:
How many wows are you going to post in regards to this BS? ProFootball Weekly? You're going to believe that rag? Weis is no idiot. He was very careful that Zbikowski retained his eligibility with his fight a few weeks ago. Sounds like wishful thinking on the ProFootball Weekly staff and yourself. ND haters crawling out of the woodwork. ND is back and here to stay. Deal with it.


I hate Notre Dame, and even IF this report is true as the day is long, I have stated that the NCAA would basically look the other way because like it or not ND gets some special treatment in college football.
 

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SkinsandTerps said:
haha. Seems like he should be paying for it at this point.

Smart guy, manipulate your parents for as long as you possibly can.

he is very good about things like that, instead he is getting me a second game jersey, blue i think.
 

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I'm no expert on NCAA rules or the facts at issue here. But I am a lawyer and have to deal with statutory interpretation a lot. Based on the facts as I am aware of them (Quinn picked which agent he wants) and based on the rule cited by Woody's Girl, I would say there probably isn't any violation as long as a nothing has been exchanged between Quinn and the agent he selected.

An oral or written contract is distinctly different from the statement "I am going to go with ABC Agent Corp." There are numerous requirements for an oral contract that are not present in a simple decision who you are going to go with. A contractual agreement requires consideration. "I'm going to go with ABC next year" is an illusory promise.

Think of it this way: assume I make the statement "I am going to use AMEX Travel Services when I plan my trip to Europe next year. No one else need solicit my business." That does not create an oral contract with AMEX Travel. If I subsequently get injured, and can't go on the trip, there is no enforceable agreement with AMEX; they can't sue me. Or if I decide to go with Mustang Travel, AMEX still had no enforceable agreement.

Under the law, the explanation is that it is an illusory promise. No consideration has been exchanged. And while I'm no expert on NCAA rules, I think it is the influence of contractual consideration that they are worried about.
 

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Great post Cobra.

As long as nothing monetary or otherwise was received by said player it shouldnt make any difference at all.

I agree.

As far as eligibility rules are concerned, I cant imagine it would be much different. But who knows.

Who knows the rules ?
 

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gbrittain said:
I will bet dollars to donuts that Brady Quinn will be throwing passes for the Irish this football season.
Of course he will.
 

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Evidently they interviewed multiple agents and have a short list from which he'll eventually choose. Having that list would ensure that there weren't agents calling off and on all through the school year/football season, eliminating a distraction. Here are some relevant excerpts from a month old article:

It's only May, but Brady Quinn has narrowed his list of NFL agents to a nice, tidy six.
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The family spent May 11-12 interviewing prospective representatives in Columbus, Ohio. Thirteen agents, a marketing specialist and an attorney each got an hour to make their pitch.
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A May 30 cut deadline for agents is one of the "earlier" cutdown dates for a prospective high draft choice, according to one of the representatives interviewed by the family.
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"At least we can narrow it down so at least we can tell everyone else to bug off. Coach Weis wants Brady to focus so he's not getting calls from Joe Schmo agent."
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The entire article is here:

http://cbs.sportsline.com/collegefootball/story/9469877/2
 

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Found this :

AMATEURISM

A student-athlete loses amateur status and thus shall not be eligible for intercollegiate competition in a particular sport if, prior to the completion of your eligibility (which usually occurs after the last game or contest of your senior year including post-season tournament, bowl, or all-star games), you:

Use your athletic skills (directly or indirectly) or play in any form in that sport, or you are involved in any commercial endorsement for a product, service, or establishment.

Accept a promise of pay even if such pay is to be received following completion of intercollegiate athletics participation.

Compete on any professional athletics team and know (or had reason to know) that the team is a professional athletics team, even if you do not receive pay or remuneration for your expenses.

Negotiate, sign, or enter into an agreement or commitment of any kind, either verbal or written, to be represented by an agent for the purposes of marketing your athletic ability or reputation in a sport, regardless of it's legal enforceability or any consideration received. You will lose your eligibility even if you:

1. Do not date the agreement
2. Date the agreement as of a date after you have completed your eligibility in that sport
3. Agree that the agent will only represent you in future negotiations after you have completed your eligibility in that sport.

Accept (or allow a family member(s) or friends to accept) money, transportation, or any other benefits from anyone who wishes to represent you to market your athletic ability.

Receive any preferential treatment, benefits, or services, including loans you do not have to begin to pay back immediately, because of your athletic reputation or money you may make as a pro athlete.

Receive, directly or indirectly, a salary reimbursement of expenses or any other form of financial assistance from a professional sports organization based upon your athletic skill or participation, except as permitted by NCAA rules and regulations.

Enter into a professional draft (exceptions: Professional Basketball Draft)

A student-athlete in the sport of basketball may enter a professional league's draft one time during his or her collegiate career without jeopardizing eligibility in that sport, provided the student-athlete is not drafted by any team in that league and the student-athlete declares his or her intention to resume intercollegiate participation within 30 days after the draft. The student-athlete's declaration of intent shall be in writing to the institution's director of athletics.

http://buffs.colorado.edu/academics/docs/ncaa.htm
 

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BrAinPaiNt said:
I hate Notre Dame, and even IF this report is true as the day is long, I have stated that the NCAA would basically look the other way because like it or not ND gets some special treatment in college football.

For example?
 

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Just goes to show that the turd is about as responsible as a turd. What was found by a few people and posted on this board shot the whole thing down. There is no reason the turd could not have done the same. Totally worthless piece of crap.
 
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