Sr Bowl Practice Riser and Fallers Day 1

[Floatyworm]

yep but also go owned in the running game when he couldnt get off blocks. But look who he went up against. Two bug slow OTs. When he went up against Sambrailo, came back to pancake Golden on a run block.

Yup......I stay away from Golden like the plague. After watching him get abused in the SEC championship....I was confused why this guy even gets mentioned. He got pancaked 4 times in the first half of that game...and I mean just whacked. Once he got leveled by a TE on a counter Tre sweep....and it was as if he had no clue the play was coming at him. That really threw up a red flag for me. He has a hard time diagnoising plays.

 

[supercowboy8]

Yup......I stay away from Golden like the plague. After watching him get abused in the SEC championship....I was confused why this guy even gets mentioned. He got pancaked 4 times in the first half of that game...and I mean just whacked. Once he got leveled by a TE on a counter Tre sweep....and it was as if he had no clue the play was coming at him. That really threw up a red flag for me. He has a hard time diagnoising plays.

Yeah he fires off balance and never gets his feet under him.

 

[Floatyworm]

Ok because every where I read Orchard was good today.

Yes....our view of practices are limited....but in the 1 on 1 drills Orchard was getting his butt handled pretty good. No way I touch this guy as a 4-3 team. Is he a 3-4 OLBer? Probably better suited.

 

[supercowboy8]

Yes....our view of practices are limited....but in the 1 on 1 drills Orchard was getting his butt handled pretty good. No way I touch this guy as a 4-3 team. Is he a 3-4 OLBer? Probably better suited.

Totally disagree with you there. I think he is isa true 43 de. I didn't see what you saw and niether did all the other guys. Broaddus said he was the best DE today.

 

[Floatyworm]

Totally disagree with you there. I think he is isa true 43 de. I didn't see what you saw and niether did all the other guys. Broaddus said he was the best DE today.

If you can...go back and watch Donovan Smith LT Penn St....just stonewall him. He had no counter move once his initial burst off the line was stopped. That was a red flag for me. Also....I didn't think he looked that big. 99 Nate Orchard DE 6'3 251 Utah.......sure didn't translate to the field IMO. I think he is gonna have to run a really good 40 to make it to the first round.

 

[RS12]

-The talk of the Senior Bowl is whether or not Washington defensive tackle Danny Shelton can move up into the top-10 with a solid week in Mobile. Shelton, who was recently praised by NFL Network draft czar Mike Mayok as a top-10 talent, looked very much the part in the first Senior Bowl session. At 6-foot-2, 332 pounds, Shelton physically looked like a seasoned NFL vet. At times, he played like one, too. Shelton did a nice job of disengaging from 1-on-1 blocks and showed willingness to compete in 1-on-1 blocking drills against the North’s offensive linemen. Shelton finished the practice session with the white numbers peeling off of his orange jersey.

-In that period, Duke’s Jamison Crowder showed sticky hands and smooth route running. USC cornerback Josh Shaw, who did notplay last season because of a bizarre off-the-field incident, had trouble at times in coverage. It should be noted that this is the first real football Shaw has seen since before the ’14 campaign.

-Back in the trenches, Arizona State defensive end Marcus Haridson turned heads with his power. Although he weighed in at 311 pounds, which surprised some in the media, Hardison had two knock-downs on the day. Hardison barreled over Tennessee State offensive lineman Robert Myers in a 1-on-1 drill. The Sun Devil, who recorded 10 sacks as a senior, later crushed Marshall offensive lineman Chris Jasperse in a 9-on-7 run period.

-There weren’t any interceptions thrown during 7-on-7 work by the North quarterbacks. But Oregon State passer Sean Mannion, a Pleasanton, Calif., native, was nearly picked off by Penn State defensive back Adrian Amos. National champion wide receiver Devin Smith of Ohio State flashed great downfield speed in the drills. He did, however, drop a short hitch pass.

-Baylor quarterback Bryce Petty took the first quarterback reps during team periods. He did not botch any quarterback-center exchanges. Petty will have to prove he can play under center after his shotgun-only experiences running Art Briles’ offense in Waco, Tex.

-Michigan State defensive back Kurtis Drummond impressed during the team period. He knocked down Notre Dame tight end Ben Koyack with a shoulder tackle during the 11-on-11 work. Drummond, a 6-foot-1, 200-pound college safety, could be looked at as a cornerback prospect

http://www.49ers.com/news/article-2...ior-Bowl/294e26fb-ac79-48ff-969f-fcca5365222c

 

[Floatyworm]

Sure Danny Shelton looked good @ the 1 on 1 drills...because he had time to rest....but as soon as they went to 11 on 11...watch him get beat. He was running on E @ the end of practice. There is one thing about the NFL network....They have their pet cats...and they love to push their agendas. Funny- there is this thing called a DVR can't be beat at telling the truth.

 

[supercowboy8]

If you can...go back and watch Donovan Smith LT Penn St....just stonewall him. He had no counter move once his initial burst off the line was stopped. That was a red flag for me. Also....I didn't think he looked that big. 99 Nate Orchard DE 6'3 251 Utah.......sure didn't translate to the field IMO. I think he is gonna have to run a really good 40 to make it to the first round.

So he one bad snap and you think that? You can't win every snap.
We will just have to disagree. Orchard is a 1st rounder. Just hope he is there at 27

 

[JDSTAR]

I would run away with Donovan Smith in the 3rd and not have to worry about OLine for a long time.

 

[locked&loaded]

I'm thinking/hoping 4. He won't blaze the track and this RB class is loaded.

Found this on reddit NFLDraft and figured I would share.

https://mobile.twitter.com/DAnyanwu_81/media/grid?idx=0

21 mph top speed for David Cobb

Of course this doesn't say a lot about quickness or burst, but an interesting factoid none the less.

 

[Floatyworm]

I would run away with Donovan Smith in the 3rd and not have to worry about OLine for a long time.

yup.....that kid is making $$$ this week. Reminds me of Flozell Adams

 

[DFWJC]

Love Justin Hardy.
Not necessarily for us,but he should be real solid for someone.
He reminds me some of Keenan Allen. Not nearly as fast as Hilton,but better hands.

Also, this years RB crop is pretty deep.

 

[tm1119]

I would run away with Donovan Smith in the 3rd and not have to worry about OLine for a long time.

As a Penn State fan I was shocked when he went pro. I thought for sure he'd go back to school and have a shot to be a 1st round pick next year. I wouldn't count on him to stay right away next year, but he could definitely be a mid round steal for the future.

 

[RS12]

4) The defensive line for the South team is much better on the edges than the North team. UCLA’s Owa Odighizuwa is quick, fluid, long, sudden, and difficult to block in drills. Arkansas DE Trey Flowers had a much better day today and I continue to be impressed by Houston’s Joey Mbu’s short area power and explosion. Watching him go through bag drills is scary as he’s able to display his sudden power in tight spaces.

5) Grady Jarrett is a player I’ve talked about a lot over his Clemson career. He always found a way to impact the football game at Clemson and he’s doing the same kind of thing down here. Jarrett was in the backfield all day during team drills and used his quickness to win 1-on-1 battles. He’s a tough evaluation because he’s only 6’1″ and 288 lbs. and plays on the nose, but NFL scouts swear this kid will make an impact in the league.

6) OU Daryl Williams is really raw and has a tendency to play “top heavy”, but there is no doubting his natural power. Both in 1-on-1s and double team drills he was able to generate great movement if he engaged defenders with balance. With his frame and raw tools to develop an NFL team will definitely take a chance on the Sooner product.

7) Speaking of offensive linemen, it was once again clear that LSU OT La’El Collins was the best player on the field. Collins is just more advanced than other OL down here and has a lot more natural talent. On multiple occasions he was matched up with Mizzou DE Markus Golden, once Collins got his hands on he was able to maul him until the whistle. Collins has shown me he can play Left Tackle in the NFL and I can only imagine how dominate he’d be if he played inside at Guard for a few seasons. Collins also proved to other top prospects that coming down to Mobile and battling won’t hurt your draft stock if you’re good. The cream rises to the top down here.

8) Norfolk State OLB Lynden Trail once again wow’d scouts with his mobility and athleticism. He’s shown he can run with Tight Ends down the seam and carry his coverage vertically. There is no way a 6’7″ LB should be able to run and move the way he does. Trail also flashed potential as an edge rush threat and certainly has the frame to be a “force” player vs. the run. With his size he’s probably locked into a 3-4 scheme at OLB.

http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2015...tml?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter

 

[RS12]

Laken Tomlinson, OG, Duke: At 6-foot-3 and 323 pounds, I thought Tomlinson showed good power and did a nice job staying low and not getting off balance during one-on-one pass-protection drills. An All-ACC performer, Tomlinson is a four-year starter who earned his degree in December in psychology and evolutionary anthropology and would like to explore a career in the medical field once his playing days are over. Tomlinson is smart player who would be a good fit for Chargers offensive line coach Joe D’Alessandris.

T.J. Clemmings, OT, Pittsburgh: At 6-5 and 307 pounds, Clemmings passes the eye test. He moves well and appears to have the athletic ability to deal with elite edge rushers. However, he’s raw in terms of technique. Clemmings will have a steep learning curve at the next level.

Devin Smith, WR, Ohio State: Smith showed good body control and the ability to make contested catches during one-on-one drills. He’s a speed demon, and you can’t ignore his production for the Buckeyes -- he finished with 30 touchdown catches and averaged 20.7 yards per reception in four seasons at Ohio State.

Henry Anderson, DE, Stanford: At 6-6 and 287 pounds, I like Anderson’s versatility, playing up and down the defensive line for the Cardinal. He also showed good energy and a relentless nature in pass-rush drills.

Hau'oli Kikaha, DE, Washington: At 6-2, 246 pounds, Kikaha is a natural pass rusher who finished with 19 sacks for the Huskies in his final season. He appeared to struggle in pass coverage but could be a fit for a team like San Diego looking for more speed off the edge in passing situations. Kikaha played in 3-4 and 4-3 defensive schemes at Washington.

 

[RS12]

One player who has had a mixed Senior Bowl is Iowa defensive tackle Carl Davis. He has displayed a nice skill set with strength, size, and a burst. However, Davis has flunked the team interviews. He has said he didn't work hard in practice at Iowa because he was going against young scout team linemen and he didn't want to risk injury against some overzealous underclassmen. He told teams that he should only play about half the snaps in a game in order to be effective. Teams felt he came across as very arrogant and lazy. Davis is going to need to turn that around before his Combine and pre-draft visit interviews.
http://www.BAN-INCOMING-IN-3-2-1/seniorbowl2015rumors4.php

 

[The Realist]

Some GM or scout trying to push him down the board to top-mid 2 so his team can take him.

 

[Alexander]

5) Grady Jarrett is a player I’ve talked about a lot over his Clemson career. He always found a way to impact the football game at Clemson and he’s doing the same kind of thing down here. Jarrett was in the backfield all day during team drills and used his quickness to win 1-on-1 battles. He’s a tough evaluation because he’s only 6’1″ and 288 lbs. and plays on the nose, but NFL scouts swear this kid will make an impact in the league.

I have a feeling he will have a Marinelli name.

 

[Alexander]

Some GM or scout trying to push him down the board to top-mid 2 so his team can take him.

That is not the first time I have read about his supposed lazy streak and this is before he blew things up this week. Just strike me a player that will get pushed up in the silly season then people wonder why he got drafted later than thought.

That is the hidden side to the draft that I find so fascinating. The personality aspect that comes out via team interviews and also conversations with coaches, we know nothing about.

I would literally pay to watch teams interview these players at the Combine.

 

[DBOY3141]

That is not the first time I have read about his supposed lazy streak and this is before he blew things up this week. Just strike me a player that will get pushed up in the silly season then people wonder why he got drafted later than thought.

That is the hidden side to the draft that I find so fascinating. The personality aspect that comes out via team interviews and also conversations with coaches, we know nothing about.

I would literally pay to watch teams interview these players at the Combine.

I am good friends with a psych that conducts interviews for a number of teams at the combine (not the Cowboys). He has some interesting stories. Worst interview he ever conducted was Michael Vick.