Statistical Breakdown On Terrence Newman?

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Eddie said:
In retrospect, was Newman the right pick??? We could have had Byron Leftwich, Terrell Suggs, or Jordan Gross.

I was really hoping we could trade down, snag Marcus Trufant, and an additional pick.

Terrell Suggs maybe. Gross? What the heck has he done? How many pro-bowls has he gone to? Infact last 4-5 years of highly rated LT have been pretty much dissappointments. Gross is a RT and so is Robert Gallary.

Now Leftwitch is someone I wanted in Draft, but boy, he is not looking as good as I thought he would be at this point. He looks like more a Drew Bledsoe clone than what I thought would be more of Aikman type. And like someone said, doesn't seem to have dedication to keep his weight down etc.
 

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Derinyar said:
Newman was probably the best CB in the NFC last year. The Probowl is about the sports center moments.

Sad but true. If a corner is doing his job you shouldnt hear about him to much. Newman did his job to a T and wont get rewarded. Probowl voting should be done by HC's/OC's/DC's and have 30% of the vote effected by the fans.

Newman was a shutdown corner in todays NFL. There is no "shutdown" like there used to be but hes pretty d**n close..
 

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RCowboyFan said:
Terrell Suggs maybe. Gross? What the heck has he done? How many pro-bowls has he gone to? Infact last 4-5 years of highly rated LT have been pretty much dissappointments. Gross is a RT and so is Robert Gallary.

According to just about every pro rating publication, Jordan Gross is one of the top 10 tackles in the game of football right now.
 

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I think Newman is an excellent corner.

Best in the league? I don't know.

I think he needs to work on his tackling alittle more, but that's an easier fix than some problems that CB's have.

The Panthers have some excellent CB's I believe.
 

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Wheat said:
I think Newman is an excellent corner.

Best in the league? I don't know.

I think he needs to work on his tackling alittle more, but that's an easier fix than some problems that CB's have.

The Panthers have some excellent CB's I believe.

He actually has been a good tackler. Better than he was projected to be coming out of college. He missed one tackle againt Cooley and I have seen several in the media use that to say he is not a good tackler. The rest of the time he is coming up and doing a good job.
 

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joseephuss said:
He actually has been a good tackler. Better than he was projected to be coming out of college. He missed one tackle againt Cooley and I have seen several in the media use that to say he is not a good tackler. The rest of the time he is coming up and doing a good job.
He's a much better tackler than that cb who wore #21.
 

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parchy said:
According to just about every pro rating publication, Jordan Gross is one of the top 10 tackles in the game of football right now.

Ok, then why he is playing RT rather than LT, when he is being paid like one? I thought he was drafted by Panthers to be LT and besides seems like the LT they have is nothing to crow about either. So its not like Gross was beat out by a better player for LT spot.

And please show me the or provide the links pointing out Gross to be top 10 Tackles in the game? I am not saying Gross is bad, but I dont think he was worth the high pick he was picked at.
 

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Saying Newman didn't perform this year was nuts, when Henry went down they exploited Glenn and out safeties. Newman was never doubted... Newman will be a shut-down corner in Big D for the next 8 years. He put on a bit of weight last year so he could be more physical, and the year before it was very difficult for a young corner to match up against the best receivers in the league week in and week out. Imagine looking at the schedule saying, "Well I got Randy Moss, Terrell Owens, and Santana Moss to face the next three weeks". Give him a break, Parcells was singing his praises all year.
 

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joseephuss said:
He actually has been a good tackler. Better than he was projected to be coming out of college. He missed one tackle againt Cooley and I have seen several in the media use that to say he is not a good tackler. The rest of the time he is coming up and doing a good job.


I wouldn't even use that Cooley one as a fair example. He just threw his shoulder down and got run over. I meant in run support, but whatever. You guys watch him a ton more than me. If you say he's fine...then he's fine.
 

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parchy said:
According to just about every pro rating publication, Jordan Gross is one of the top 10 tackles in the game of football right now.
I can believe top 10 RT's. Course thats like saying I'm the best of the redheaded step children.
 

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Wheat said:
I wouldn't even use that Cooley one as a fair example. He just threw his shoulder down and got run over. I meant in run support, but whatever. You guys watch him a ton more than me. If you say he's fine...then he's fine.

What!?! He had his back turned to Cooley when he got nailed by him. How is that even trying to tackle him. If you remember, he got spun around about a second before impact and Cooley ran through him from behind. That doesn't take a bulldozer to do, if Newman would have tackled Cooley like that it wold have been a miracle.
 

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In retrospect, we've already proven we could get to the Super Bowl with a 12th round draftee. Do we need a shutdown corner?

Not if the front 7 can dominate. I think Kevin Williams would have been the better pick. An adequate CB in the 2nd round would have been fine.

A dominant front line makes up for difficiencies in the 2ndary.

I'm happy with Newman, but I think our focus still needs to be up front.

I'd also have been been happier with Leftie.
 

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Eddie said:
In retrospect, we've already proven we could get to the Super Bowl with a 12th round draftee. Do we need a shutdown corner?

Not if the front 7 can dominate. I think Kevin Williams would have been the better pick. An adequate CB in the 2nd round would have been fine.

A dominant front line makes up for difficiencies in the 2ndary.

I'm happy with Newman, but I think our focus still needs to be up front.

I'd also have been been happier with Leftie.

Well, Dallas did draft Kevin Smith in the 1st to be the shut down corner on those Superbowl teams and later signed Deion Sanders to fill the same role. That is a better comparison than Larry Brown to Newman. Kevin Smith before getting injured was shutting guys down in the playoffs. The teams went after Brown. I don't think Rice did anything when lined up on Smith.

Williams would have been a good pick, maybe not better or worse at this time. The front 7 has been addressed and now has fewer holes. A couple of more linebackers and it should be in good shape.
 

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Newman was an excellent pick. It's hard to find a shut down corner, and all draft picks are luck. You never know how a player is going to translate to the pros, just like Larry Allen. He was a lucky pick.

When you see Newman shut down powerful receivers here in the near future, we might not notice it (since we rarely value are own) but other fans and teams will think, I wish we had a guy like that.
 

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Paniolo22 said:
What!?! He had his back turned to Cooley when he got nailed by him. How is that even trying to tackle him. If you remember, he got spun around about a second before impact and Cooley ran through him from behind. That doesn't take a bulldozer to do, if Newman would have tackled Cooley like that it wold have been a miracle.

You're thinking of the Ladell Betts carry near midfield. The Cooley example referes to the TD right before halftime when Newman got run over while attempting a weak tackle.
 

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Paniolo22 said:
What!?! He had his back turned to Cooley when he got nailed by him. How is that even trying to tackle him. If you remember, he got spun around about a second before impact and Cooley ran through him from behind. That doesn't take a bulldozer to do, if Newman would have tackled Cooley like that it wold have been a miracle.


That was the Ladell Betts run, buddy.

He got spun and around and nailed from behind by the runner.

Cooley had that quick turn, then just pushed Newman off of him and ran for the TD. Two different plays in the same game.
 

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SkinsFan26 said:
You're thinking of the Ladell Betts carry near midfield. The Cooley example referes to the TD right before halftime when Newman got run over while attempting a weak tackle.

I thought it was Portis. Newman collided with Dockery. Gave Dockery a pretty good hit, but it caused Newman to spin and then Portis ran into his back.
 
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