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I think it's the thing that annoys me the most about the Dallas Cowboys. The fans and the front office alike.

Just accept things, regardless of reality.

The worst is probably the situation with the offensive line, but what makes me furious is the situation with Marion Barber being the starter.

It takes an injury to get this team moving in a different direction i.e. roy williams, and miles austin.
 
DallasDomination;3525171 said:
If it was up to me I would have MArion BArber as the #3 back.

I think most of us would. We all see him do his song and dance number behind the line, and he just isn't effective at all. It's painful to watch him back there, knowing he is probably going to get caught behind the line.
 
Drew Bledsoe got injured for Tony Romo to take over?

We have 20 of 22 starters returning, most in the NFL, and you think it's a bad thing.

Incredible.
 
Galian Beast;3525169 said:
I think it's the thing that annoys me the most about the Dallas Cowboys. The fans and the front office alike.

Just accept things, regardless of reality.

The worst is probably the situation with the offensive line, but what makes me furious is the situation with Marion Barber being the starter.

It takes an injury to get this team moving in a different direction i.e. roy williams, and miles austin.

Personally, I'd rather have Choice starting. However, if you listen to what Garrett has said in various interviews and put them together, you get a better understanding of why they are doing things that way.

First, they start Marion Barber in the first quarter. This is for several reasons actually. First, is that he is the better blocker of three running backs. This means that on a pass play or audible from run-to-pass play, he provides better protection for Romo than the other two guys. Second, you want your starting running back to punch the defense in the mouth a little early in the game. Third, the defense of both teams are usually amped up at the beginning of the game so you need a stronger running back who can dish out hits as well. Fourth, as the defense starts to tire a little, the Cowboys then bring in a fresh Felix Jones who seems even faster than he normally is to the defense.

I still like Choice and Felix as the two main running backs but I can at least understand their logic. With all the great runners in Cowboys history, I will admit it is hard adjusting to a 3-pronged running back attack.

-Reality
 
Hostile;3525241 said:
Drew Bledsoe got injured for Tony Romo to take over?

We have 20 of 22 starters returning, most in the NFL, and you think it's a bad thing.

Incredible.

It took 6 games of Drew Bledsoe struggling mightily for Romo to get the nod... and that was in what his 4th year with the team?
 
Reality;3525252 said:
Personally, I'd rather have Choice starting. However, if you listen to what Garrett has said in various interviews and put them together, you get a better understanding of why they are doing things that way.

First, they start Marion Barber in the first quarter. This is for several reasons actually. First, is that he is the better blocker of three running backs. This means that on a pass play or audible from run-to-pass play, he provides better protection for Romo than the other two guys. Second, you want your starting running back to punch the defense in the mouth a little early in the game. Third, the defense of both teams are usually amped up at the beginning of the game so you need a stronger running back who can dish out hits as well. Fourth, as the defense starts to tire a little, the Cowboys then bring in a fresh Felix Jones who seems even faster than he normally is to the defense.

I still like Choice and Felix as the two main running backs but I can at least understand their logic. With all the great runners in Cowboys history, I will admit it is hard adjusting to a 3-pronged running back attack.

-Reality

It really isn't working out, and it's a waste of talent watching barber out there instead of jones or choice.
 
Galian Beast;3525169 said:
I think it's the thing that annoys me the most about the Dallas Cowboys. The fans and the front office alike.

Just accept things, regardless of reality.

The worst is probably the situation with the offensive line, but what makes me furious is the situation with Marion Barber being the starter.

It takes an injury to get this team moving in a different direction i.e. roy williams, and miles austin.

You mean like it took the NE Patriots to go with Tom Brady while Drew Bledslow was hurt? That kind of thing? There's a lot of dough invested in MBIII you know. It's a game but there is big business in front of it. Not to mention, how do you really know when to switch the line up? There's more behind this game than we as fans know. Otherwise we would be making the decisions.
 
People are too quick to discount the knowledge of fans... especially die hard fans who watch the game constantly, and are going further in depth than the average fan.

The die hard cowboys fan from CZ probably tells you to draft Steven Jackson instead of trading down and getting Julius Jones. That's not hindsight. That's knowledge.

I mean there is finickiness, but there is also insight. It goes both ways.
 
dcfanatic;3525170 said:
I think we should trade for Mogan Lankins.

I was going to say the same thing, but I thought it was Mongan Lakins?
 
Hostile;3525241 said:
Drew Bledsoe got injured for Tony Romo to take over?

We have 20 of 22 starters returning, most in the NFL, and you think it's a bad thing.

Incredible.

And those two starters that did not return, Flozell Adams and Ken Hamlin did not lose their jobs because of injury, either.

They brought in Dez Bryant, but unfortunately have not been able to use him due to injury. The plan was to get him going and once he is healthy I think he will see the field quite a bit.

I could care less who is named the starter at running back. All three guys will see plenty of action. It is not as if Barber is horrible. He did average 4.4 yards per carry last year. Considering how often he failed on 3rd and 1 and 4th and 1, that means his average on all his other carries was very healthy.
 
Tashard is a liability on pass plays whenever he's in the ball game, IMO. You can't just stick him in unless you KNOW you can run the ball on that particular play. Felix wouldn't last half a season starting in regards to his injury status/record.


We can get as 'indepth' as we want from the comfort of our living rooms but the simple fact is...........we ain't there, in practice. We don't have half the knowledge the coaches do. We don't know their intentions from one play to another. We don't know what to expect from any given opponent on any given Sunday. The offensive player personnel change and the formations change from play to play for crying out loud, how are we gonna sit here and justify what this team 'needs'?


Get out there on the field, give me 10 years experience as a coach and then come talk to me. Otherwise, grab your chips, hunker down and hope the staff knows their job better than the athletes.
 
Galian Beast;3525169 said:
I think it's the thing that annoys me the most about the Dallas Cowboys. The fans and the front office alike.

Just accept things, regardless of reality.

The worst is probably the situation with the offensive line, but what makes me furious is the situation with Marion Barber being the starter.

It takes an injury to get this team moving in a different direction i.e. roy williams, and miles austin.

You mean the Cowboys need to do what you want them to do and if they do not then you will throw a fit? That is the reality fans who think they can run the team and when thing are not done by what they think then it is just wrong. If the team did what some of you guys have hollered about Romo would have been gone
 
Doomsday101;3525486 said:
You mean the Cowboys need to do what you want them to do and if they do not then you will throw a fit? That is the reality fans who think they can run the team and when thing are not done by what they think then it is just wrong. If the team did what some of you guys have hollered about Romo would have been gone
Well, he did title the thread, Status Quo, and that fits.
 
Hostile;3525494 said:
Well, he did title the thread, Status Quo, and that fits.

It sure does. I could understand some of this a bit more if this team had not shown improvement but we have and while I may not agree with everything the team does I don't throw a fit and act like my views are the only one that matters. Example I think Wade should have the starters playing tonight at least a series or 2 I know others feel different and I know that Wade is not going to do it but I'm certainly not going to act like my view is the only view
 
I've been saying it for 35 years.

"The sun should rise in the west and set in the east."

But everyone tells me that it can't be done. Why? Because it's beyond my control?

Well, that's a stupid reason.

:mad:
 
What annoys me the most is people that jump the gun on every player and then contradict themselves. It's easy to say 'we should cut that guy' and then when he plays elsewhere and looks good we say 'why did we cut that guy?'

I like Choice a lot, but he doesn't pass protect as well as Barber and is good in ST coverage. If we were to cut Barber and put Choice into his role, now we have a lesser quality blitz pickup tailback and probably a lesser #3 RB who is not as good on ST. Barber was hurt last year and still averaged 4.4 yards per carry. It's not like he's Eddie George or Errict Rhett.

As much as I like Miles Austin and was touting him for quite some time before he brokethrough, the fact is that he disappointed in games for awhile and I don't see how the coaching staff could fully trust him until the KC game.






YR
 
Yakuza Rich;3525544 said:
What annoys me the most is people that jump the gun on every player and then contradict themselves. It's easy to say 'we should cut that guy' and then when he plays elsewhere and looks good we say 'why did we cut that guy?'



YR

Yes that cracks me up as well.

Or guys that says this or that player sucks but then when they propose trading for another player that add the player they think sucks into the equation.
My thinking is, if the player sucks as much as you say they do, then why in the world would another team want that player.
 
Galian Beast;3525319 said:
People are too quick to discount the knowledge of fans..


Well, when some display their lack of knowledge in such a undeniable way, it's an easy thing to do.
 

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