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[Hostile]

The Cowboys picked him up as a developmental prospect, and it was obvious as I argued then that they were going to beef him up to play OT. I believe he was signed off of the Saints practice squad, and in doing such he had to be signed to the Cowboys 53-man roster.

Either way, you didn't see Parnell playing as a "blocking TE" as you supposed either, so what is your point, lol?

I think I might try to email one of the local reporters in Dallas to get the real scoop on Brewster. Cowboys' personel won't say openly what the problem with him was, but they usually divulge some info to reporters.

FWIW, I think Tim MacMahon said Brewster just wasn't good, and had a poor football body.

What is that and where are Tim McMahon's qualifications to determine this?

 

[Hostile]

No Stuff. There are Hall Of Famers, who were highlights in other Hall Of Famer's film clips.

Only ignorance would lead a fan to conclude that one tackle or trucking can and will define a player's career.

Troy Aikman threw an interception against the 49ers and we lost the NFC Championship.

He was no good.

Clint Longley led us to an amazing comeback win against the Commanders on Thanksgiving.

He was clearly as good as Roger.

 

[TheCount]

What is that and where are Tim McMahon's qualifications to determine this?

I don't know about McMahon, but the fact that Brewster was a bow legged offensive tackle probably should have raised a flag or two.

 

[cowboys2233]

There is absolutely no way he would have gone undrafted... that's ridiculous; the Cowboys drafted him right about where he was projected to go...

I'm just not sure why this is relevant. Ryan Leaf was drafted right about where he was supposed to go. It's not about drafting based on public perception, it's about finding good *****' players. If this guys sucks, it was a bad draft pick, that's all there is to it. Because I will guarantee that when all is said and done, there will be some high quality NFL players that were drafted after him.

 

[CowboyStar88]

Cutting him right now would be stupid.



That's the longest, "I was wrong.", I've ever seen. :laugh2:

It may be stupid but look at the #'s and look at the guys ahead of him who are better right now and probably become contributors right now. Church, Sendejo, Elam, Sensabaugh, McCray etc... How many Safeties do you think they keep? and who do you think they cut? As it stands right now I would say sendejo has an edge over AOA.

 

[Hostile]

I don't know about McMahon, but the fact that Brewster was a bow legged offensive tackle probably should have raised a flag or two.

Bow legged?

 

[YosemiteSam]

What is that and where are Tim McMahon's qualifications to determine this?

I don't know about Tim McMahon's qualifications to determine it, but I could see clear as day the guy was excessively fat. He had more blubber on him than a Humpback whale the year he was drafted.

He lost a lot of it the following year, (though he was still fat) but his ability to anchor a bull rush was even worse than it was when he was excessively fat. The guy was an epic fail from the start.

 

[TheCount]

Bow legged?

Yup, thought that was common knowledge when he was drafted. It wasn't the acute kind, but his bow legs were pretty heavily reported around the draft and after we drafted him.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

There were two different plays and people seem to be getting them confused. The one where the number is not clear he didnt get trucked. He tried to tackle high didn't wrap up and bounced off.

Later where AOA's number was clear it was again a screen to that side and in his pursuit, he tried to just run past the blocker instead of engaging the block, the blocker lined him up and knocked him on his ***.

I am guessing the latter is what people are talking about when they talk about awareness because I did not see him iss an assignment which is more than what i can say for the other safeties.

I would be morec oncerened if he hadn't gotten back up after that shot he took and continued to chase the play.

Its pretty obvious from watching him that he is green as grass but I guarantee you ont he next screen he sees to his side he won't just ignore the blocker to try to run to the ball again.

Sendejo is mediocre of footspeed and is more fiesty than physical and there is a difference. He drags ball carriers to the ground, he doesn't just knock them over.

 

[silverbear]

The Cowboys picked him up as a developmental prospect, and it was obvious as I argued then that they were going to beef him up to play OT. I believe he was signed off of the Saints practice squad, and in doing such he had to be signed to the Cowboys 53-man roster.

Either way, you didn't see Parnell playing as a "blocking TE" as you supposed either, so what is your point, lol?

My point is, when they signed him to the active roster instead of the practice squade, they'd never, ever put a 280 pound on the field to play at tackle (which, of course, they didn't)...

So try to follow along here-- they signed him to the active roster rather than the practice squad, which led me to believe he was signed to actually PLAY... and given that there was no way that he was going to play tackle, that led me to SPECULATE that they might use him as a blocking TE in some sets...

You're right that they didn't, they apparently did sign him with no intention of playing him at all... but I still think my thought processes were sound at the time...

And once again, I was SPECULATING, not making a statement of fact... it's not the first time my speculations were erroneous, and I'm quite sure it won't be the last... but a lot of my speculations turn out to be fairly accurate, so if it's all the same to you, I'll continue speculating...

 

[silverbear]

That's the longest, "I was wrong.", I've ever seen. :laugh2:

Shoot me, I'm long-winded...

And at least when I'm wrong, I will admit as much... some others in here are apparently incapable of doing that... juck is our most recent example...

 

[TheCount]

It may be stupid but look at the #'s and look at the guys ahead of him who are better right now and probably become contributors right now. Church, Sendejo, Elam, Sensabaugh, McCray etc... How many Safeties do you think they keep? and who do you think they cut? As it stands right now I would say sendejo has an edge over AOA.

That all makes sense, but I still don't think they cut AOA. He was drafted a year ago, the NFL was a HUGE step in competition.

 

[silverbear]

I'm just not sure why this is relevant.

It's relevant because juck flat-out stated that if we hadn't drafted him, he wouldn't have been drafted... IOW, my argument was in direct response to a specious statement...

I didn't set the parameters of the argument, juck did...

It's not about drafting based on public perception, it's about finding good *****' players.

Thank you, Captain Obvious... and of course, the Cowboys are the ONLY team in the entire history of the NFL to miss on a mid-round pick...

If this guys sucks, it was a bad draft pick, that's all there is to it. Because I will guarantee that when all is said and done, there will be some high quality NFL players that were drafted after him.

It's idiotic to judge whether or not AOA "sucks" at this early stage... he hasn't had the chance to show us what he has yet; in fact, it may be that the Boys are making a mistake trying him at safety, he might be better suited to play on the corner...

 

[realtick]

My point is, when they signed him to the active roster instead of the practice squade, they'd never, ever put a 280 pound on the field to play at tackle (which, of course, they didn't)...

So try to follow along here-- they signed him to the active roster rather than the practice squad, which led me to believe he was signed to actually PLAY... and given that there was no way that he was going to play tackle, that led me to SPECULATE that they might use him as a blocking TE in some sets...

The Cowboys didn't have the option of putting him on their practice squad initially. When you sign a player from another team's practice squad, that player has to be added to your team's 53-man roster for at least three weeks. Which is exactly how it unfolded; Parnell ended up being put on the practice squad after being on the 53 for the requisite amount of time. So Parnell initially being on the active roster vs. practice squad, shouldn't be looked at as anything more than a formality.

Anyways, no biggie, just pullin' your chain.

 

[silverbear]

Anyways, no biggie, just pullin' your chain.

Pal, I've known you in here long enough to know how you play... it's all good...

 

[Hostile]

Yup, thought that was common knowledge when he was drafted. It wasn't the acute kind, but his bow legs were pretty heavily reported around the draft and after we drafted him.

Nope, first I've heard of it.

I suppose a guy who had part of his leg blown off in Viet Nam never should have been considered to have a football body. Or a guy born with only half a foot.

If the comment is about him being fat, Nate Newton never should have been allowed to play I guess.

People seriously go overboard trying to defend why they dislike some players.

 

[dboy214]

meh AOA has been called soft since he got to Dallas. difference btw being an elite athlete and football player. he has the physical intangibles but he doesn't like to mix it up.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Yup, thought that was common knowledge when he was drafted. It wasn't the acute kind, but his bow legs were pretty heavily reported around the draft and after we drafted him.

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[cowboys2233]

It's relevant because juck flat-out stated that if we hadn't drafted him, he wouldn't have been drafted... IOW, my argument was in direct response to a specious statement...

I didn't set the parameters of the argument, juck did...

Thank you, Captain Obvious... and of course, the Cowboys are the ONLY team in the entire history of the NFL to miss on a mid-round pick...

It's idiotic to judge whether or not AOA "sucks" at this early stage... he hasn't had the chance to show us what he has yet; in fact, it may be that the Boys are making a mistake trying him at safety, he might be better suited to play on the corner...

It's irrelevant because there is absolutely no way to know whether or not it's true, no factual evidence to support either case. He doesn't believe he would have been drafted, you do. You can argue with each other until you're blue in the face and you'll end up in the very same spot. Irrelevant.

You would be better served arguing over whether he's a good player or not because you could back up your points with evidence.

 

[realtick]

Nope, first I've heard of it.

I suppose a guy who had part of his leg blown off in Viet Nam never should have been considered to have a football body. Or a guy born with only half a foot.

If the comment is about him being fat, Nate Newton never should have been allowed to play I guess.

People seriously go overboard trying to defend why they dislike some players.

And some go overboard in an effort to defend a player.

Brewster obviously didn't have much ability or perhaps anywhere close the type of conditioning needed to play in the league. Or, maybe it was a healthy combo of both.

Either way, what's your defense of him then? He was cut last year despite the team being woeful thin at OL; passed through the league with no takers; cut again before camp and currently not on an NFL roster I believe.

I'll slide my chips with McMahon on this one that he's probably close to the truth. It wouldn't surprise me if he's just relaying what some team scouts or coaching told him.