Stephen: Nobody has called interested in trading for Pickens

[KingCorcoran]

"Not wanted and appreciated" would have been not tagging him and letting him walk in free agency....

Yeah. He’d have been heartbroken.

 

[KingCorcoran]

What have you seen that would lead you to believe he’s a poor coach?

Finishing closer to last place than first place.

 

[DarkVader33]

Finishing closer to last place than first place.

So it’s his fault that Eber and the lack of talent defense was pushed on him? I thought everything was Jerry’s fault? Only when it fits the narrative?

 

[CT Dal Fan]

Finishing closer to last place than first place.

Look up Schottenheimer's offensive stats and then refresh yourself about how the defense performed under Eberflus; and then try to see if pinning the blame for last year on the head coach still sticks.

 

[Kwyn]

Finishing closer to last place than first place.

Kinda like Jim Harbaugh?

He was 8-9.

Certainly Dan Quinn

And don’t get me started on Andy Reid. He was worse than Schottenheimer last year

 

[LouBrown]

I really hope someone helps you if you ever buy a new car or even if you ever have. The dealer would have your pants around your ankles if you went alone.

This is nonsense

 

[LouBrown]

Who said I am talking about the tag, I replied to you, mentioning Jerry will take nothing less than 2 1st rd picks for him...that is an utterly ridiculous statement

He is tagged. The tag sets the price.

Idk what you are even talking about

 

[DarkVader33]

He is tagged. The tag sets the price.

Idk what you are even talking about

Im just curious as to what part of something that can be negotiated is the set price? Maybe we’re at odds because of the term “set”. To me “set” means it pretty much can’t be changed. Do you have a different meaning?

 

[Redsfan_83]

He is tagged. The tag sets the price.

Idk what you are even talking about

Gotcha, and I see where I wasn't exactly clear. We could in theory, have GP sign the tag, and then trade him for different compensation, correct? Assuming he would only do this if the other team agreed to a new contract with him? ie. having on the exclusive tag?

 

[Spottswoode]

Im just curious as to what part of something that can be negotiated is the set price? Maybe we’re at odds because of the term “set”. To me “set” means it pretty much can’t be changed. Do you have a different meaning?

Save yourself the energy and just read from post #3. The goalposts aren’t in the same zip code anymore. I have never seen someone so dead set on being right.

 

[kskboys]

Im just curious as to what part of something that can be negotiated is the set price? Maybe we’re at odds because of the term “set”. To me “set” means it pretty much can’t be changed. Do you have a different meaning?

The franchise tag is a set amount.

 

[DarkVader33]

The franchise tag is a set amount.

Ya if he signs with another team before the other team has a chance to negotiate. If they negotiate before the signing, then it’s not set.

 

[LouBrown]

Gotcha, and I see where I wasn't exactly clear. We could in theory, have GP sign the tag, and then trade him for different compensation, correct? Assuming he would only do this if the other team agreed to a new contract with him? ie. having on the exclusive tag?

Correct.

The point is that Dallas has no reason to do that right now (not to mention the fact that GP hasn't signed the tag). No team is going to give up two firsts at a contract point that Dallas isn't going to match. Hence, he's untradeable right now.

There are a lot of factors that could change that, like the draft, but then the context is entirely different.

 

[LouBrown]

Im just curious as to what part of something that can be negotiated is the set price? Maybe we’re at odds because of the term “set”. To me “set” means it pretty much can’t be changed. Do you have a different meaning?

Yes, "set" means "Pretty much unchangeable."

In other words, when the context changes, the price can change. It hasn't changed.

 

[Davidlee1973]

Does it surprise anyone that Dallas has not got any offers for Pickens? Think is speaks volumes. I do think Cleveland or jets would give a second or third for him. If we get wiped out at 12. I would trade Pickens and draft lemon. Maybe if you just float
The rumors of such negotiations would force the rams to try and make a move up to get lemon in the top 10 and push one of those defensive top 10 down to 12. Discussion?

 

[Bobhaze]

Not really true. When the Cowboys gave Pickens the franchise tag they designated it as the”Non-Exclusive” tag.

That meant that Pickens could be looked at by other teams and offers could be made. If Pickens agreed to sign elsewhere, the Cowboys had the right to match the offer, or receive two first-round draft picks as compensation.

No team was going to give up two first round picks for Pickens. It was never going to happen…by design.

 

[Rayman70]

But who's to say they haven't received calls about him? Maybe they have low ball offers.

 

[thunderpimp91]

I think its a lie that nobody wants Pickens....There are 31 other teams that would take Pickens for the right price. If no one wants Pickens then last years trade was a major overpay given that his value was at a low point.

The no one wants Pickens narrative is Stephen Jones trying to negotiate through the media instead of actually talking with the players agent. It's the same mistake they make year after year that results in training camp drama.....great for headlines....bad for football.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Not really true. When the Cowboys gave Pickens the franchise tag they designated it as the”Non-Exclusive” tag.

That meant that Pickens could be looked at by other teams and offers could be made. If Pickens agreed to sign elsewhere, the Cowboys had the right to match the offer, or receive two first-round draft picks as compensation.

No team was going to give up two first round picks for Pickens. It was never going to happen…by design.

Bingo. That's why Stephen's statement about not receiving any calls is just inflaming the situation and not creating the leverage he thinks it does. We just went through this with Micah. Same agent. If we pick Tyson, we need to unload Pickens.

 

[Jarntt]

No teams has been willing to give up two 1st round picks AND a 5 year $35ishM per year deal to get Pickens.
The Zone: "Nobody Wants Pickens"