Stephen on 105.3 just now

[CowboyRoy]

Both players took huge steps back in 2019 after showing some promise together in 2018. Same defense. Same players. Deteriorating results.

As we head into 2021... We have to be looking to move on from both players within 2 years. Wasted resources and sunk costs are setting this team back. For as many “hits” as McClay has had along the OL— we have utterly whiffed on a number of critical defensive picks over the last several years

With the downfall of the Dline and DT position they got completely exposed. Jaylon in particular is terrible. And that fact that he is the leader of the defense makes it even worse.

 

[Whyjerry]

Non commital on LVE 5th year option.
mentioned Jaylon as a player they're looking to get back to 2018 under Quinn
mention Donovan Wilson who they really like
feels very good about offense said defense is definitely is priority,
Will is working hard on draft and free agency right now.
Broaddaus told Stephen Todd France has a couple defensive players sitting out there and he should talk to him. Got nice laugh out of Stephen.
still blaming the pandemic on some of the defensive issues.
also pumping up Dan Quinn, spoke of culture again.

For actual football insight why bother listening to him? The guy is a buffoon.

 

[Aviano90]

I had to learn not to take seriously any sentiment I read here. This isn't really a place for genuine Cowboys discussion anymore, just people *****ing all the time and calling everyone stupid.

Most true statement I have read in years on this board. It is nothing but “I am right and you are wrong” conversations.

 

[Mr_437]

To be fair, Stephen said most of the attention has been on the QB contract, and they haven't moved to LVE's situation at the moment. Is LVE worth the $9M for his 5th year?

I was encouraged by Stephen's focus on the defense... it's about damn time. I have a hunch dude is gonna finally get a good 1Tech.

 

[DasSchnitzel]

Both players took huge steps back in 2019 after showing some promise together in 2018. Same defense. Same players. Deteriorating results.

As we head into 2021... We have to be looking to move on from both players within 2 years. Wasted resources and sunk costs are setting this team back. For as many “hits” as McClay has had along the OL— we have utterly whiffed on a number of critical defensive picks over the last several years

Yeah, I agree. They started well.

I think LVE's body is just not sturdy enough for the NFL. That's not a jab at him, 99.999% of humans aren't sturdy enough for it.

Jaylon though, I don't even know. When he looks bad, he looks awful, but then he stops 10+ ball carriers by end of game. I'd like to see him do it closer to the LOS but I'd also like a Dallas Cowboys defensive tackle to sniff a probowl selection. Honestly wouldn't be surprised if he washes out of starting lineups, ends up having a solid career as a JAG, or even returns to his projection.

My guess is, they just eat the Jaylon deal and tell LVE to walk next March. You can't create a hole by cutting one of your top 2 LBs right now on this awful defense. Next off-season, you dont want to cut both and be forced to fill LB1 and LB2, so I think you waive LVE's 5th year. Don't forget, his 2022 cap hit will be about the same or higher than Jaylon's. Then you let Jaylon play one more year, the cap goes up, and Jaylon's dead money goes way down. Then we can move on whenever we want, however we want.

In the meantime I could name a few LBs I'd love to snag in the draft and add to this mix but suffice it to say I won't bat an eyelash at many of these LB prospects with a day 1 or 2 pick.

Ending on a x's and o's thing, I really hope we see Quinn try out Jaylon in rotation or coordination with Gregory on some packages, aside from the obvious of trying him at SAM.

 

[Trajan]

Easily the dumbest man in the organization. He’s not someone to take seriously on anything.

I don’t know about this....he has a lot of completion inside this organization.

 

[Proof]

Trust Stephen is dumber despite what The Ticket says. Dude is a blowhard with no redeemable qualities. At least Jerry can be funny and Jr. knows how to shut up.

he’s loud dumb. My least favorite kind

 

[CATCH17]

Can’t wait to dumpster dive in free agency, draft some rookies for our upgrades from last season, then go on to be mediocre next season and creating a false sense of being close thanks to playing in a crap division.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Wow what a bunch of Manbabies we have here.

Arrogance.

 

[Sydla]

Yall are really gonna act like meeting your new coaching staff and installing a new defense over zoom had nothing to do with our terrible defense just so you can mock the Jones boys some more?

There can be more than one reason the defense was bad.

The point being it's kind of weak to blame the pandemic when you had to fire your DC. So clearly the pandemic wasn't the most pressing issue with your D, it was the DC.

This is typical Jones boy speak where they look for excuses to blame anyone but themselves. They had to fire their DC after just one season because at one point, it was on a course to be one of the worst defenses statistically in NFL history. But they have to find other excuses than to admit they screwed up.

Further, let's note there were like a dozen new NFL DCs last year. Guess whose D was the worst? Somehow, without an offseason, those others ones didn't end up being the worst of the new DCs.

 

[Typhus]

Man... That doesn’t bode well for LVE. We know we needed to upgrade LBer— but that position just may have jumped to number one on the list if we are counting on Jaylon being a difference maker lol

Parsons is the only one I would look at there but I bet Denver takes right in front of us.
I know everyone wants to just go defense now that Dak is signed, but if Slater is there and he has a good chance to be there,, Im having a real difficult time passing on him if we stay at 10.
All Jerry has to do is just breath that we want Pitts and the Eagles will draft him just like they did with Goedert.

 

[CalPolyTechnique]

If you only pay attention to places like this, Jaylon gets all the hate and LVE mysteriously doesnt.

But every time I talk about it with real football minds, or listen to them talk about it on their channels, we're all kind of in agreement that LVE is worse.

Literally the best you can say, and it's totally disingenuous, is that LVE and Smith are equally capable. But even then, LVE is hurt all the time, so he still grades worse.

I had to learn not to take seriously any sentiment I read here. This isn't really a place for genuine Cowboys discussion anymore, just people *****ing all the time and calling everyone stupid.

Chief Whimperer has spoken y’all.

 

[plymkr]

At least hes putting respect on my hitta DWilson name.

yeah I agree, he kind of quietly played better and better as the season wore on. He may be answer or at least a short term answer at safety. As he played better I feel like fans and media were so down on the defense that is play got overlooked. I think we got to get better in the trenches. If o line comes back health then we're good there and if we draft for the d line then we can start swinging the tench war our way. We can live with DWilson at safety with winning the trenches. Last year sucked but out of the suckage we had some bright spots that moving forward will help us be more competitive.
Wilson
Diggs
Schultz
BDZ
Williams
McGovern
Lamb
Pollard

 

[plymkr]

Both guys need to go.

Yes they do and this is a very rare time I actually am glad Stephen opened his mouth. I'm glad he's non-committal of LVE. Our LBers are trash I'm glad he's not committing to our trash Lbers

 

[Mannix]

------If you only pay attention to places like this, Jaylon gets all the hate and LVE mysteriously doesnt.

Yes....because LVE quietly sucks.

 

[DasSchnitzel]

Chief Whimperer has spoken y’all.

I'm here to talk about the Cowboys. I don't know what you want from me. Have fun.

 

[DasSchnitzel]

The point being it's kind of weak to blame the pandemic when you had to fire your DC. So clearly the pandemic wasn't the most pressing issue with your D, it was the DC.

This is typical Jones boy speak where they look for excuses to blame anyone but themselves. They had to fire their DC after just one season because at one point, it was on a course to be one of the worst defenses statistically in NFL history. But they have to find other excuses than to admit they screwed up.

Further, let's note there were like a dozen new NFL DCs last year. Guess whose D was the worst? Somehow, without an offseason, those others ones didn't end up being the worst of the new DCs.

Yeah, I see what you're saying.

Someone in the building at some point should have stopped the installation of a new defensive scheme over zoom, and now you want them to take accountability for that and Nolan in general. I don't disagree.

 

[john van brocklin]

Man... That doesn’t bode well for LVE. We know we needed to upgrade LBer— but that position just may have jumped to number one on the list if we are counting on Jaylon being a difference maker lol

How much is the 5th year option???
Anyone know?

 

[Typhus]

yeah I agree, he kind of quietly played better and better as the season wore on. He may be answer or at least a short term answer at safety. As he played better I feel like fans and media were so down on the defense that is play got overlooked. I think we got to get better in the trenches. If o line comes back health then we're good there and if we draft for the d line then we can start swinging the tench war our way. We can live with DWilson at safety with winning the trenches. Last year sucked but out of the suckage we had some bright spots that moving forward will help us be more competitive.
Wilson
Diggs
Schultz
BDZ
Williams
McGovern
Lamb
Pollard

Have to add Gallimore to that list

 

[AsthmaField]

The point being it's kind of weak to blame the pandemic when you had to fire your DC. So clearly the pandemic wasn't the most pressing issue with your D, it was the DC.

This is typical Jones boy speak where they look for excuses to blame anyone but themselves. They had to fire their DC after just one season because at one point, it was on a course to be one of the worst defenses statistically in NFL history. But they have to find other excuses than to admit they screwed up.

Further, let's note there were like a dozen new NFL DCs last year. Guess whose D was the worst? Somehow, without an offseason, those others ones didn't end up being the worst of the new DCs.

Stephen Jones is not going to go on the radio and say that Nolan is suck. He just won’t do it, nor should he. Nobody in the league would look favorably at that.

Of course they blame Nolan. That’s why they fired him after one season and cost themselves a lot of money. But to go on radio and talk about what a terrible job he did isn’t something that any franchise would do.

What Stephen is saying is that he doesn’t think that the defensive talent is as bad as last year’s defense showed. Now that is debatable, but Jones 100% did the right thing by not throwing Nolan (and Tomsula) under the bus. He isn’t a faceless poster on a message board that can bash anyone he wants to. Stephen is the second most powerful guy on the Dallas Cowboys and he can’t go beat up ex coaches on the air.