Steve Jobs is EVIL! Apple knew about iphone issue before release

[theogt]

"We will continue to work on more advanced antenna designs that don’t have this problem or put this problem in an out of the way place."

Ha, I've been saying this for a while. Just don't put the separation point between the two antennas in a place where a person's hand normally would bridge the two. Embarrassing that they didn't consider this before launch.

Some of these quotes are amazing:

11:03AM - I look at this and think wow. Apple has been around 30 years. Haven’t we earned the credibility and trust that we’re going to take care of our users? … we weren’t just innocents in this. But the reaction has been so overblown… we could actually use your help here.

11:01AM - I guess it’s just human nature, when you see someone get successful you just want to tear it down. I see it happening with Google. Google is a great company. Look at everything they’ve created. Would you prefer we’re Korean companies? Do you not like the fact that we’re an American company leading the world right here? Of course we’re human, of course we’ll make mistakes. But sometimes I feel that in search of eyeballs for these web sites, people don’t care about what they leave in their wake.

 

[YosemiteSam]

my wife just bought that sprint htc evo 4g thing. She wont stop playing with it.

She is insisting on buying me one, I hate cellphones, but I think I can stream the sunday ticket to it with that new to go option from directv.....seeing that I get to the stadium like 5 hours early I could use this to sit in my seat and watch other games!!!

should I get it or is it a waste of money?

You know the SlingBox? There is now a SlingBox app for Android (maybe iPhone too) where you can stream the TV to the phone. Very cool

 

[Hoofbite]

Not buying products from people that openly lie to you? That's probably a good one.

Shut up.

 

[theogt]

Shut up.

Do you have a point?

 

[Hoofbite]

You know the SlingBox? There is now a SlingBox app for Android (maybe iPhone too) where you can stream the TV to the phone. Very cool

SlingBox depends on your upload speed at your house (you probably know this but just putting it out there) so if you don't have a kick *** connection at home, you aren't going to get very good quality on the road.

SlingBox is good though because you can watch whatever you want. But SlingBox mobile costs like 30 in the app store.

 

[YosemiteSam]

SlingBox depends on your upload speed at your house (you probably know this but just putting it out there) so if you don't have a kick *** connection at home, you aren't going to get very good quality on the road.

SlingBox is good though because you can watch whatever you want. But SlingBox mobile costs like 30 in the app store.

I knew about the upload speed of course, as for the apps cost I had no idea. (just found it in the app store) I had just read about it the other day.

I'm just not that into watching TV. I have 5 TVs in the house and I may watch 2 hours of TV a week when it isn't football season.

 

[Hoofbite]

Do you have a point?

Every company is full of **** just as Apple is. Don't develop such a personal relationship and you won't be hurt when they go into the corporate spin control mode.

 

[theogt]

Every company is full of **** just as Apple is. Don't develop such a personal relationship and you won't be hurt when they go into the corporate spin control mode.

I see you didn't have one and were just blustering because you've developed a "personal relationship" with Apple.

I don't give two craps about the company. I have no relationship to the company and I'm not a fanboy. I understand their corporate communication position. My job is to draft corporate disclosure on a daily basis. Trust me, I fully know the issue.

And I fully know they they recognize what exactly the issue is (i.e., detuning the antennas when they're bridged), but are ignoring it under the guise that "this signal issue affects all phones."

But you asked what "principle" there was for returning the phone and I gave it to you. I also explained earlier in this thread that this principle wasn't likely sufficient for me to return the phone.

 

[Hoofbite]

I knew about the upload speed of course, as for the apps cost I had no idea. (just found it in the app store) I had just read about it the other day.

I'm just not that into watching TV. I have 5 TVs in the house and I may watch 2 hours of TV a week when it isn't football season.

Me either.

But for football, I'd almost do anything to watch it. I actually wish I knew someone who had Sunday Ticket so I could pay the additional cost to get the streaming account set up. Odds are I won't be able to get DTV at my new place after I move here in a few weeks and I probably won't get as many games as I do now.

 

[YosemiteSam]

Me either.

But for football, I'd almost do anything to watch it. I actually wish I knew someone who had Sunday Ticket so I could pay the additional cost to get the streaming account set up. Odds are I won't be able to get DTV at my new place after I move here in a few weeks and I probably won't get as many games as I do now.

As noted in a thread I just created. I just got NFL Sunday Ticket. I'm freaking psyched about it. To finally have the NFL Network to boot!

 

[Hoofbite]

I see you didn't have one and were just blustering because you've developed a "personal relationship" with Apple.

Yeah, that's it.

A few weeks ago you couldn't have been happier with that phone and because a huge company is behaving like huge companies do, you're considering taking it back.

It's just funny. Tell me what company isn't full of ****.

 

[theogt]

Yeah, that's it.

A few weeks ago you couldn't have been happier with that phone and because a huge company is behaving like huge companies do, you're considering taking it back.

It's just funny. Tell me what company isn't full of ****.

You don't read too good, do you?

I'm not returning the phone because it's an incredible phone, notwithstanding this issue.

 

[Hoofbite]

Yeah, that's it.

A few weeks ago you couldn't have been happier with that phone and because a huge company is behaving like huge companies do, you're considering taking it back.

It's just funny. Tell me what company isn't full of ****.

I am actively considering returning my phone, however, based on principal. This press conference was a complete sham. They tried to downplay the issue and it's a complete lie to say the issue occurs on other phones. It was a bit sickening to watch.

You don't read too good, do you?

I'm not returning the phone because it's an incredible phone, notwithstanding this issue.

Yeah, you don't read so well either.

 

[theogt]

Yeah, you don't read so well either.

No, I read just fine.

I said I was "considering" it.

I'm probably not a pricipled enough man to return it, since it really is an amazing device notwithstanding.

I did call and officially lodge a complaint, though. And I told the customer service rep I was calling because Jobs said only 0.55% of owners had called to complain, which got a laugh out of the rep.

 

[TheCount]

Yeah, it's not going to be a recall, I don't think. Probably a cheaper version of the bumpers, one without the metal buttons and all that. It'll probably be more like one of those Livestrong Bracelet type rubber bands with the holes cut out.

I kinda nailed it. I knew they wouldn't give everyone free bumpers, and they conveniently pulled them from the Apple Store so you can't even order and then get a refund, which is a bummer because I really wanted a bumper and not a full case.

I think they should have put a $30 refund towards whatever case you wanted, personally.

 

[JohnnyHopkins]

I kinda nailed it. I knew they wouldn't give everyone free bumpers, and they conveniently pulled them from the Apple Store so you can't even order and then get a refund, which is a bummer because I really wanted a bumper and not a full case.

I think they should have put a $30 refund towards whatever case you wanted, personally.

Here ya go Count, job well done! :

 

[CowboyWay]

I don't see what the big deal is. Design flaw, yes. But how many people aren't going to buy the plastic case anyway? That phone is pretty slick and you stand a very high chance of dropping it multiple times without the case.

I bet 95 out of 100 people have cases for thier iphones.

 

[theogt]

I don't see what the big deal is. Design flaw, yes. But how many people aren't going to buy the plastic case anyway? That phone is pretty slick and you stand a very high chance of dropping it multiple times without the case.

I bet 95 out of 100 people have cases for thier iphones.

I don't think it's that high. Most people I know don't use cases.

 

[CowboyWay]

I don't think it's that high. Most people I know don't use cases.

Rarely if ever do I see people without cases of some type or bumpers. They're playing phone roulette.

 

[Dallas]

my wife just bought that sprint htc evo 4g thing. She wont stop playing with it.

She is insisting on buying me one, I hate cellphones, but I think I can stream the sunday ticket to it with that new to go option from directv.....seeing that I get to the stadium like 5 hours early I could use this to sit in my seat and watch other games!!!

should I get it or is it a waste of money?

That is a remarkable phone. I would get it. It compares nicely w/ an unlocked HTC HD2 I have here on demo from a friend.

HTC's adroid phones are the best on the market. The ATT Samsung Captivate launches this Sunday and its a gorgeous phone, especially the display, but it lacks a lot of other features. The camera kinda sucks and there isn't a built in flash.

Pretty phone though.

Get that phone theebs. You wont be dissapointed.