Stop over-inflating the term rebuilding

[jterrell]

This team has never went full on rebuild but they may well this season.
It is early and maybe they decide not to; but the chance is there to full on rebuild in 2014.

They'd NOT sign any FAs that make more than peanuts and they'd commit to playing kids everywhere the way they did Safety last year.

It would make 2014 suck pretty hard but in 2017 they'd likely be a true contender.

Don't know how to feel about any of this yet to be honest as we've lacked any real design or plan for a long time but it is what it is.

As to the OP: This year is very different thus far.
This team has not restructured every living sole to pay older players (yet).
Even with 3-5m additional cap space they've been spend-thrift and let proven vets walk away for nothing.
You can be very sure next year will bring high compensatory selections.

The irony of all this is we'll basically try to tank for high draft picks and magically find a way to be 8-8 again.

 

[noshame]

This team has never went full on rebuild but they may well this season.
It is early and maybe they decide not to; but the chance is there to full on rebuild in 2014.

They'd NOT sign any FAs that make more than peanuts and they'd commit to playing kids everywhere the way they did Safety last year.

It would make 2014 suck pretty hard but in 2017 they'd likely be a true contender.

Don't know how to feel about any of this yet to be honest as we've lacked any real design or plan for a long time but it is what it is.

As to the OP: This year is very different thus far.
This team has not restructured every living sole to pay older players (yet).
Even with 3-5m additional cap space they've been spend-thrift and let proven vets walk away for nothing.
You can be very sure next year will bring high compensatory selections.

The irony of all this is we'll basically try to tank for high draft picks and magically find a way to be 8-8 again.

Not sure what to think either...but it's different, and that will do for starters.

 

[noshame]

Why not? I'm serious.

Because we still have holes in most areas of the team, let alone not much to back up anybody.

 

[noshame]

The Cowboys used the term "retooling" about 2 years ago.......and they've done it.

How can you rebuild from a team when your core is Demarco Murray, Dez Bryant, Sean Lee, Tyron Smith, Claiborne, Brandon Carr, etc.? All of those guys are in their mid 20's lol. So what? You want to go out and get 19 year olds? There's not much to rebuild from and the only position that is "old" is the qb position.

That's seven, you need another 9-10 starters, and Claiborne? please.

 

[dragon_mikal]

Because we still have holes in most areas of the team, let alone not much to back up anybody.

The teams in our division are not impressive, either.

With Romo we'll compete for the division for sure. After that well...blood bath comes to mind. The defense will drag the team down once again unless someone surprises big time.

 

[DFWJC]

I keep seeing people flipping out over the idea that we are rebuilding with a 34 year old QB.

Things this team has rebuilt in the last few years

1. The RB Corps (used to be primarily marion barber and felix jones)
2. The WR Corps (Dez Bryant is now the veteran WR here, think about that)
3. The LB Corps (Bradie James and Keith Brooking)
4. The Secondary (Newman, Jenkins, Sensabaugh, Ball)
5. Offensive Line (Adams, Allen, Gurode, Davis)

Are the Cowboys rebuilding the defensive line? Yeah they are. Does this mean that they just started some rebuilding process? Not at all. They've been rebuilding since 2011.

I think the defense will REBOOT with a new defensive line, but I don't necessarily think we need to rebuild our entire defense. A lot of that will depend on how our efforts have gone. Clearly it didn't help changing schemes within the middle of a rebuild, but that doesn't change the fact that this has been in motion for quite some time.

Those linemen we are letting go just lasted longer than most of the other positions because the front office thought they could go longer. They were wrong. I was wrong. They're doing the most appropriate thing right now though, which is starting over on the defensive line.

I agree that the talk of dallas all of a sudden starting to rebuild as semi-clueless.
They have been trying, with various success, to rebuild for a few years now.
Hate to use the term "process" but that really is what is going on as far as rebuilding....a little at a time each year..

They badly miscalculated the d-line and that has crushed them for two years now...going on three.
They invested massively in the secondary and that has been a bit of fail so far too.
The Oline and WR rebuild has gone a bit better though....though not seemless by any means.

 

[Galian Beast]

I agree that the talk of dallas all of a sudden starting to rebuild as semi-clueless.
They have been trying, with various success, to rebuild for a few years now.
Hate to use the term "process" but that really is what is going on as far as rebuilding....a little at a time each year..

They badly miscalculated the d-line and that has crushed them for two years now...going on three.
They invested massively in the secondary and that has been a bit of fail so far too.
The Oline and WR rebuild has gone a bit better though....though not seemless by any means.

Completely accurate assessment

 

[Nightman]

Players that were on the team when Garrett took over as Head Coach

Tony Romo
Jason Witten
O Scandrick
LP Ladouceur
J Parnell
Doug Free
Sean Lee
Barry Church

I would say the rebuild is almost over.

All while going 29-27 and playing for the Division title in Week 17 the last 3 years. I know nothing is ever good enough around here, but it is not the Campo years either. The team peaked on 2009, but I see the arrow finally pointing back up.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That's seven, you need another 9-10 starters, and Claiborne? please.

What do you mean and Claiborne? He was drafted 2 years ago....he's no longer worth a look? That's insane.....

And i'm naming the CORE of this team. You can't have a core of 20 guys. Every NFL team has a core of 4 or 5 guys and they build around them. The Cowboys have that. And they have some youth that has potential and will only get better if they continue to progress like we think they will. You guys want it to be doom and gloom and while it very well may be its not because of the personnel on this team. If anything its management.

 

[CyberB0b]

The team peaked on 2009, but I see the arrow finally pointing back up.

What do you possibly see that makes you think the arrow is pointing up?

 

[coult44]

I keep seeing people flipping out over the idea that we are rebuilding with a 34 year old QB.

Things this team has rebuilt in the last few years

1. The RB Corps (used to be primarily marion barber and felix jones)
2. The WR Corps (Dez Bryant is now the veteran WR here, think about that)
3. The LB Corps (Bradie James and Keith Brooking)
4. The Secondary (Newman, Jenkins, Sensabaugh, Ball)
5. Offensive Line (Adams, Allen, Gurode, Davis)

Are the Cowboys rebuilding the defensive line? Yeah they are. Does this mean that they just started some rebuilding process? Not at all. They've been rebuilding since 2011.

I think the defense will REBOOT with a new defensive line, but I don't necessarily think we need to rebuild our entire defense. A lot of that will depend on how our efforts have gone. Clearly it didn't help changing schemes within the middle of a rebuild, but that doesn't change the fact that this has been in motion for quite some time.

Those linemen we are letting go just lasted longer than most of the other positions because the front office thought they could go longer. They were wrong. I was wrong. They're doing the most appropriate thing right now though, which is starting over on the defensive line.

We've been rebuilding, being rebuilt, need to be rebuilt, or coming off a rebuilding for 17-18 years!!!

 

[Nightman]

What do you possibly see that makes you think the arrow is pointing up?

I see a top 5 offense, led by Romo and Witten with Dez and Murray and a young and improving OL. We need some depth at OG.

I see a Defense that was devastated by injuries that is now healthy and more experienced. I like our LBs and think Carter will bounce back and Holloman is a keeper.

I see a deep secondary and big improvement from Wilcox and Claiborne. Church is solid and so are Carr and Scandrick.

The DL is a problem, but it is getting better. Ware was a shell of himself and we got nothing from Ratliff and Spencer. We ran out practice squad guys last year and still went 8-8. Selvie is a keeper at LDE and Crawford and Bass should join nicely in the rotation. Mincey has potential. Add a couple draft picks and a guy like Melton and it's a big improvement over last year.

 

[jobberone]

I keep seeing people flipping out over the idea that we are rebuilding with a 34 year old QB.

Things this team has rebuilt in the last few years

1. The RB Corps (used to be primarily marion barber and felix jones)
2. The WR Corps (Dez Bryant is now the veteran WR here, think about that)
3. The LB Corps (Bradie James and Keith Brooking)
4. The Secondary (Newman, Jenkins, Sensabaugh, Ball)
5. Offensive Line (Adams, Allen, Gurode, Davis)

Are the Cowboys rebuilding the defensive line? Yeah they are. Does this mean that they just started some rebuilding process? Not at all. They've been rebuilding since 2011.

I think the defense will REBOOT with a new defensive line, but I don't necessarily think we need to rebuild our entire defense. A lot of that will depend on how our efforts have gone. Clearly it didn't help changing schemes within the middle of a rebuild, but that doesn't change the fact that this has been in motion for quite some time.

Those linemen we are letting go just lasted longer than most of the other positions because the front office thought they could go longer. They were wrong. I was wrong. They're doing the most appropriate thing right now though, which is starting over on the defensive line.

I agree with most but we are rebuilding. The defense needs to be rebuilt. You have Lee and you have.......Lee. Scandrick and Church are decent players and that's it. Lee is a talent but can't stay on the field. Carr is a marginal starter and I've said that day 1. Perhaps Claiborne will elevate his play. There are others I have hopes for but I said hope.

 

[CyberB0b]

I see a Defense that was devastated by injuries that is now healthy and more experienced. I like our LBs and think Carter will bounce back and Holloman is a keeper.

I think the offense is good, but top 5 is a stretch.

How are they healthier? Most of the guys who were hurt are no longer on the team. Spencer, Ratliff, Ware. Gone. Lee gets hurt every year. Same with Mo so far.

I see a deep secondary and big improvement from Wilcox and Claiborne. Church is solid and so are Carr and Scandrick.

Deep secondary?

The DL is a problem, but it is getting better. Ware was a shell of himself and we got nothing from Ratliff and Spencer. We ran out practice squad guys last year and still went 8-8. Selvie is a keeper at LDE and Crawford and Bass should join nicely in the rotation. Mincey has potential. Add a couple draft picks and a guy like Melton and it's a big improvement over last year.

I don't see how you can say the defensive line is getting better right now.

 

[Sarge]

Every team rebuilds every year. It's merely a matter of how much is needed. Semantics.

 

[Tawney88]

I don't see how you can say the defensive line is getting better right now.

I wondered the same thing. Saying the Dline is better now than last season (despite it totally sucking last year) is laughable. The Dline is an embarrassment right now, it has the potential to be epically bad. I get hope but some people are deluded.

 

[Galian Beast]

I agree with most but we are rebuilding. The defense needs to be rebuilt. You have Lee and you have.......Lee. Scandrick and Church are decent players and that's it. Lee is a talent but can't stay on the field. Carr is a marginal starter and I've said that day 1. Perhaps Claiborne will elevate his play. There are others I have hopes for but I said hope.

Ultimately it comes down to whether our attempts to rebuild the linebacker corps and secondary hold. If not, we'll have to re-rebuild them.

 

[HomerSimpson31]

Things will get better but not in 2014. We were garbage against the run and in the seconday. Our best player on Defense in Lee can't stay healthy,besides him we have no big impact players on defense. As for a top 5 offense,no way. Murray is a good back but is always hurt,Dez is a massive talent but can't do it all himself. Witten is always clutch but getting up there in age and Romo is coming off another back surgery isn't even fully ready yet. I like the possabilities in Beasley and Williams but they aren't Miles Austin either. Miles needed to go due to health reasons but he was still very productive.

We're definitely in a rebuilding stage and I just hope they make right moves. Romo as great as he's been besides the picks at the worst time,is getting up there in age and with the massive contract it's time to look for his successor and focus on the defensive line,then look at the runningback situation if Murray is banged up a lot this season. Either way it goes,a lot of teams have gotten younger and better and we're inching closer to the bottom so get ready for a rough season and hope for the best.

 

[fanfromvirginia]

Keep telling yourself that our win average about .500 which, surprisingly is above average in the league.

Umm...the league average is exactly .500. On this matter I am confident.

 

[BrassCowboy]

I think the biggest knock on Jerry is that he has been an inpatient fan. He has wanted to win now for a while. Which causes him to get frustrated and go in a new direction far too often... Phillips > Garrett >>> Rob Ryan >>> Kiffin > Marinelli

The switching of systems costs a lot in terms of rebuilding. Note that the offense which has changed the slowest has probably been the most consistent.

I will agree that switching systems does cost us in terms of rebuilding but the problem here is not the "impatience" as you call it, but rather who he gets to replace the bum coaches from before. Jerry cant help but get "yes" men to be HC of this team so that Jerry can continue blindly ruinin... er i mean running this team. Its not that Jerry should stay with status quo for the sake of consistency, it is that Jerry needs to find a REAL headcoach who will pick their own coaching staff (this is the way it should be done always) and who will make ALL game decisions even if Jerry don't like it. Until Jerry realizes this fact, we will continue seeing what we have seen for past 18 years regardless of how many times he changes coaches be it in name only.