Strong Article on Romo

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Ummm. Will the Romo haters plz speak up. This article is making your arguments look very foolish.
 

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  • Led nine fourth-quarter comeback wins (2nd behind Eli Manning’s 10) since 2011.
  • Led nine game-winning drives (3rd behind Eli’s 11 and Matt Ryan’s 10) since 2011.
If the Cowboys could make a freaking field goal, that 9 turns to 12.
 

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Dallas had a fourth-quarter lead or tie in eight of those 10 losses.

How is that a pro Romo/Cowboys argument? That just speaks to how we blew leads late
 

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Dallas had a fourth-quarter lead or tie in eight of those 10 losses.

How is that a pro Romo/Cowboys argument? That just speaks to how we blew leads late

No it speaks to how our defense crumbles in the 4th quarter - if it didn't he would have even more such wins.
 

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No it speaks to how our defense crumbles in the 4th quarter - if it didn't he would have even more such wins.

True, but the article stated it was defending Romo and "America's Team" so there seems to be a bit of contradiction here one way or the other
 

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True, but the article stated it was defending Romo and "America's Team" so there seems to be a bit of contradiction here one way or the other

I don't think so.

I think the whole point of the article is that Romo is judged much more harshly than probably anyone else in the league because of a few high profile mistakes but that when you look at the entirety of his production and performance late in close games he has actually been very good. His stats may even read better except for the fact his defense which has been in the bottom 8 of the league 3 years in a row defending the pass let's us down just as much as Romo lifts us up. He'd have to do a bit more research to show this effect but I've seen it elsewhere pointed out. A lot of the gap between Romo and Eli disppears once you factor in that Eli's team plays great defense in the 4th quarter and rarely has given up a lead which is in stark contrast to the Cowboys.

I'm hoping for major improvement this year. I think the problem has been a combination of scheme and talent. I think Kiffin and Marinelli know what they are doing and we are going to be pretty good right out of the gate. I really like our personnel to run this defense but am not sure how well we'll defend the run and Safety play is still a bit of a mystery.
 

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I'm hoping for major improvement this year. I think the problem has been a combination of scheme and talent. I think Kiffin and Marinelli know what they are doing and we are going to be pretty good right out of the gate. I really like our personnel to run this defense but am not sure how well we'll defend the run and Safety play is still a bit of a mystery.

I saw all the improvement I wanted last year. Romo was lights out. I thought even though we saw him revert to his old ways of taking a few ill-advised chances from time to time, we saw a different Romo last year, and a lot of the gambles he had to take were out of necessity.

I definitely agree with your points about the defense. If the defense plays up to it's potential, and all he talk about Romo holding the reigns of the offense is reality more than talk, we could be in for a very promising season.
 

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Great article. Probably one that I would like to keep for reference.
 

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Anti-Romo comments are akin to admitting you know absolutely nothing at all about football.

I actually like them. Tells me whose opinions I can forever discount and ignore. Saves time.

It's the ultimate litmus test that helps to identify lazy, media slurping sheep. Unfortunately, this article's facts will not only fail to change their minds - counterintuitively, it will astonishingly ignite a passionate nonsensical defense of their amply documented myth constructed fortress.
 

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Fantastic article. Really just great stuff that actually compares and contrasts Romo with his peers. For Cowboys fans, this information shouldn't be anything new-- this much should have been obvious already. But it's nice to have something to quantify it.

Still, speaking as a "Romo basher", this article just emphasizes what's so bewildering about him. He absolutely can be clutch and is quite alright in that regard, but for some reason he just doesn't come through in seemingly the biggest moments. At least thus far. But at the same time, it brings me back to the side of hope rather than apathy.
 

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The thing about Romo "not coming through" is IMO luck, or should I say bad luck.

1. Would he have come through except for the slick ball game in Seattle in 2006 playoffs? He did the QB thing perfectly, it was the holding for the kicker part where things went wrong.

2. How about that Giants playoff game in 2007 playoffs. Would he not have come through except for Pat Crayton mysteriously not running through his route?

3. How about the first Giants matchup in 2011 - did he not put us up 12 points with under 5 minutes to go. Any decent defense should hold that lead. What's more when he got the ball back he threw up a perfect pass that Miles "lost in the lights". Or how about him driving us down the field for the tying FGA with about 45 seconds on the clock only for JPP to truck a 330 pound OG and block the kick with his long arms.

4. How about the 2nd Giants game last year - Dez came down about a quarter of an inch out. Romo threw that pass well within the end zone but Dez just didn't quite get control of his body enough to pull that ball down.

The truth is people just "forget" when Romo doesn't come through and focus on those instances when he has failed. Why - it seems to me to be more of a media creation starting with that Cabo trip in 2007 during the bye week. Then you have all the focus on his golf game and his hat position and so forth. They just really like to pick on him for some reason. I assume it is because of his notoriety and fame and position as QB of the Cowboys and dater of gorgeous blonde women. It sells so they continue to play the game. They generate a lot of confirmation bias - they hound on Romo's failures and mostly pay little attention to his victories and triumphs.

I honestly truly believe he is the 4th best QB in football right now behind Rodgers, Peyton Manning and Brady. I think he is better than Brees, Big Ben, Eli and Matt Ryan. I also believe there is no other QB in the league who would have had more success with this team over the past 2 years. The only reason we have been within sniffing distance of the playoffs has been Romo's tremendous play. I am very happy with him and do not want another QB here for the next 3-5 years health pending, of course.

I think Garrett has this team steered in the right direction and if Jerry and Stephen play the salary cap game right we could win a SB sometime in the next 3 seasons. We have a very good young core that is about to have a number of players entering their prime. I believe a lot of the injuries have been just bad luck and we should enjoy a good jolt from almost getting 3 draft classes at once with how many injuries where were to the 2011 and 2012 draftees. The key is to keep the young players entering their primes under Cowboys control (Lee, Dez, Tyron, MO, Bruce) at reasonable costs while making careful decisions on vets like Spencer, Rat, Free and Austin. You can't sacrifice the ability to re-sign the first group of players to keep the second group - that is bad personnel management. I think the real key to pulling it off is to develop some OLs (fingers crossed for Leary, TFred and Parnell) cheaply and to start re-stocking the DL with cheaper high draft picks who are ready to play.

The last time I felt this good about this team was in 2007. I actually probably had almost more worries back then because of Anthony Henry's yearly injury at the halfway mark and the #3 and #4 CBs were Jacques Reeves and Nate Jones. The Safeties weren't particularly good in coverage either (RW11 and Ken Hamlin). If only we had a league average secondary we would have been in the SB slugging it out against the Patriots. I think this team could be that good if the young Safeties come through and the OL gels by playoff time. I think we have something good brewing with some of these young guys and we need them to break out (Parnell and Leary) and establish themselves. They both have immense physical talent and are hard working and a bit nasty on the field. It will add a huge dimension to our offense. I just don't think many DL can go through TFred, Leary or Parnell.

This board could use a huge dose of some optimism. This team will be good.
 

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The thing about Romo "not coming through" is IMO luck, or should I say bad luck.

1. Would he have come through except for the slick ball game in Seattle in 2006 playoffs? He did the QB thing perfectly, it was the holding for the kicker part where things went wrong.

2. How about that Giants playoff game in 2007 playoffs. Would he not have come through except for Pat Crayton mysteriously not running through his route?

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..............And dropping a ball with an empty field ahead of him. AND Davis's penalty killing a scoring drive.

Romo more than did his share as he always does.

Flacco slings a long ball with a safety over the top that took himself out of position at the very last second. Guess what? Flacco's 'elite'.

Denver takes the knee with plenty of time left. They had been scoring at will. Guess what? Flacco's 'elite'.

The better team with the better QB doesn't always win the ball game. We all know this.
 

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Interesting article.

But what I'm more interested in is getting some new data started here in a couple weeks. :)
 

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..............And dropping a ball with an empty field ahead of him. AND Davis's penalty killing a scoring drive.

Romo more than did his share as he always does.

Flacco slings a long ball with a safety over the top that took himself out of position at the very last second. Guess what? Flacco's 'elite'.

Denver takes the knee with plenty of time left. They had been scoring at will. Guess what? Flacco's 'elite'.

The better team with the better QB doesn't always win the ball game. We all know this.

Don't forget the crucial late game pick that "better QB" threw in crunch-time vs Baltimore. You probably did forget though because it's somehow nowhere near as crucial as Romo's versus Washington, and therefore never even mentioned.
 

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Anti-Romo comments are akin to admitting you know absolutely nothing at all about football.

I actually like them. Tells me whose opinions I can forever discount and ignore. Saves time.

This. I can tell who knows football by their take on Romo. The haters don't and get their opinions from watching the hate coming from ESPN and the likes. The Romo supporters actually watch the games and just by doing that they understand that Romo is more than capable of leading a good team to the Super Bowl. It's kinda ironic that the haters expose themselves as football ignorant.
 
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