Strong Article on Romo
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Gemini Dolly
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Youre probably right.
I think if he gets #1, people will gives him some respect like, "Hey, that Romo dude is pretty good, but...."
If he can win #2, he will probably gets a huge respect. #3 Respect badge issued. #4 President of United States. LOL.
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Whether Luck had 7 or not is a moot point, main point of that statement is because of Cowboys five comebacks, they had a chance to get in the playoffs.
All you do at Cowboys message board is nitpick and attempt to dispel anything positive written about Romo, why don't you go back to your own forum and slobber all over RGIII's jock instead.
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Translation: I'd debate the content but I would look stupid in direct comparison.
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I really think it only takes one SB for him. If he wins one, I think he would be put in the upper category of QB's. I think when Eli won his first SB, everyone was like that was great, but he really didn't have the numbers to back him up as an excellent QB. He kind of lucked his way in to the first one. I think the same applied for Rothesburger. It didn't help Ben that he had an atrocious first SB. Brees has only one, and he was under heavy scrutiny until he finally won it. Romo has the individual stats that will back him up. I hope it's this year....
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Yeah. That's why.
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It's not a moot point. When you're trying to make an argument it weakens your point when your argument has factual inaccuracies. It's not like it was a typo, afterall. And he put it in bold lol...if it is indeed wrong, he just made sure to draw attention to his mistake.
And I never "nitpick"...being a Skins fan I have zero motivation to take every positive-slanted article about Romo or the Cowboys at face value, though. I've actually written plenty positive about Romo (well, more positive than I'd ever really want to lol). And you know what I was doing not too long ago on my "own forum"? Arguing with another Skins fan about his assertion that Joe Theismann deserved to be in the HOF as much as Troy Aikman did. I "nitpicked" his post, pointed out the inaccuracies of his argument, wrote a lengthy retort why the two don't compare, and then angrily told the guy to never make me stick up for a Cowboys player like that again lol
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Wow, you got me there lol...
The article mentions the same arguments that you guys have brought up over and over again. It does a poor job of defining what constitutes "choking". It actually spends a paragraph or two making a strong case why Romo and the Cowboys are indeed seen as "chokers", then blows its attempt to explain away why the facts it just presented either are wrong or shouldn't matter. As some others here have pointed out, it contradicts itself in terms of what to give the team credit for and what to give the team blame for. I could write a better and more convincing article defending Romo.
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I can only find 3-4 times that the Colts were behind or tied (quick pass through the boxscores and my ) going into the fourth which is what I believe the criteria being used is. It's the same criteria going into the playoffs during the 2011 season they used when praising how Eli was the most clutch QB in the NFL that year.
It's possible Luck had an additional 3 game winning drives after his defense gave up the lead sometime in the fourth. I didn't go digging through the play by play of each game.
That being said, I do see how the article contained any factual inaccuracies.
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The 4th quarter choker rep probably stems from the jets and seattle games. Both were nationally televised, replayed frequently by the media, and are the most common memories for non-fans.
The first quarter statistically has been his weakest throughout his career. The biggest problem with the offense this year (especially in the first half of the season) was all the turnovers that were committed early. Even if the team comes back to tie the game or take the lead, that doesn't nullify the points. Too often people only focus on what happens last.
Maybe the next playcaller will do a better job of "protecting" him early in the game until he gets into a groove?
The first quarter statistically has been his weakest throughout his career. The biggest problem with the offense this year (especially in the first half of the season) was all the turnovers that were committed early. Even if the team comes back to tie the game or take the lead, that doesn't nullify the points. Too often people only focus on what happens last.
Maybe the next playcaller will do a better job of "protecting" him early in the game until he gets into a groove?
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Excellent post.
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I did find this:
So pretty sure the article did get that part wrong about the Cowboys leading the league in comeback wins in the 4th quarter. I don't think it should really matter which team was ahead at the start of the 4th quarter.
The article also said this:
In the "one season"?...Romo had top 10 defenses in three of his first four seasons...in the one season he didn't have a top 10 defense, it ranked #13. So I'm not sure what the writer means by "in the one season Romo had a top 10 defense". He might mean top 10 defense in terms of points given up...but if so, it's not mentioned anywhere. Even if so, though, the point really isn't a very good one to include in the article...it can easily come across as "Romo can't win playoff games without a top 10 defense helping him out." A quick perusing of the SB-winning QBs since 2006 shows that most of them had nowhere near a top 10 defense in terms of points allowed.
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I didn't make up the criteria they were using, just pointing it out. Doesn't make it inaccurate.
I am fairly sure that is what he means about top 10 teams. And that is how I personally judge defenses. Hell, the defense can give up 800 yards a game for all I care as long as they are keeping teams from scoring.
3 of the last 7 winning SB teams had top 10 in points allowed. Though technically 4 is more than 3, I don't think that constitutes most. When I read that I assumed you meant only maybe 2 of the last 7 did. And if you just go back on more year you have 4 of 8 did. The Ravens were 12th last season. Now the Colts and Giants both were in the bottom half of the league in points allowed during the regular season. During the playoffs though both teams were well below their season average which would have put the Colts in 4th that year and the Giants in 1st both seasons.