Sturm - Decoding Linehan - OL Let-Down

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Funny how if it was suggested in the offseason that it was not an automatic that the OL dominate everyone, it got a board beat down. They have not played to their billing.
 

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Need more from the OL:

"And after sifting through a lot of the evidence, it seems that this Week 3 performance required the offensive line to be way better. If you add Jason Witten and Tyler Clutts to the offensive line as the run blocking unit, they are responsible for way too many penalties and blown blocks in the last few weeks. On top of that, Zack Martin might have played his worse game in Philadelphia and Travis Frederick might have played his worst game against the Falcons. Tyron Smith gave up a sack at the very worst time and Doug Free has been rather mediocre. "
 

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Funny how if it was suggested in the offseason that it was not an automatic that the OL dominate everyone, it got a board beat down. They have not played to their billing.

Yep. I kind of had a feeling this might happen. For one the loss of Cally. Two the hype train. And lastly people are going to study and breakdown the "best" oline in the league from the year before and find ways to beat it just like they would a new QB.
 

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Funny how if it was suggested in the offseason that it was not an automatic that the OL dominate everyone, it got a board beat down. They have not played to their billing.

It really wasn't suggested often. There were a couple of mentions that Callahan could be missed, but those were generally met with hope that he was replaceable, but it was a legitimate concern.

It's definitely been the case that the vaunted OL has not been good enough so far this year.
 

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It really wasn't suggested often. There were a couple of mentions that Callahan could be missed, but those were generally met with hope that he was replaceable, but it was a legitimate concern.

It's definitely been the case that the vaunted OL has not been good enough so far this year.

This O line has always been better at run blocking then pass blocking. Having an evasive QB like Romo covers a lot of sins, but they aren't bad at pass protection. You have to look at who they are blocking for. Romo makes huge plays given the time Weeden had.

Having said that, they have to be better then they were while Romo is out. And they really need to find a replacement for Free.
 

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This O line has always been better at run blocking then pass blocking. Having an evasive QB like Romo covers a lot of sins, but they aren't bad at pass protection. You have to look at who they are blocking for. Romo makes huge plays given the time Weeden had.

Having said that, they have to be better then they were while Romo is out. And they really need to find a replacement for Free.

For whatever reason, people don't like to hear that a unit or a side of the ball just doesn't play well enough. They prefer to blame a single player, like the QB, or whatever CB they see in the frame when a touchdown is given up. Or the coaches.

The OL was just not making it's blocks on those negative runs, and it wasn't necessarily because of the fronts they were facing. They just were getting beat by the men they were supposed to handle. Our interior line is letting DLs knife through. Our HB still can't dig anybody out of a hole even when we get the rest of the play blocked.

Romo definitely makes plays other players--especially backups--can't. But he'd have been manufacturing offense in that game. Maybe he wouldn't have given up the blindside sack where Tyron got beat by the rookie. The other sack was just general interior pressure on a stunt, he probably would have gone down there, too. He'd have converted that 3rd and 1 where Weeden ate it, for sure. But for the most part, we didn't have WRs running open downfield unless ATL was just playing off coverage because it was 3rd and Forever. And when we did go to the WRs, they still dropped it or didn't make the play.
 

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It's really sad how much Leary brought to the plate as well as how bad Free has been.

Sturm has touched on our boring and bland predictable offense. Our line can protect Weeden and make holes for Randle, just make it less obvious we are running from 12 formations please. Line up and split Escobar out wide for a mismatch..
 

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Yep. I kind of had a feeling this might happen. For one the loss of Cally. Two the hype train. And lastly people are going to study and breakdown the "best" oline in the league from the year before and find ways to beat it just like they would a new QB.
Nothing that Sturm showed here had much to do with scheme. Guys were just getting physically beaten or making mental errors. There's really no excuse for the play where Stupar gets off of both Martin and Clutts, Free failing to get leverage on an LB, or Tyron getting gasses around the edge.

Those things all had very little to do with scheme, our guys just got whooped int he second half.
 

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Yeah the play has dropped off some from last year, but there was a point in the Falcon's game where this offensive line and the running game were dominating and really controlling the ballgame.

We are missing talent on offense, and big talent at that in Dez Bryant and our Quarterback. It's no surprise that during the flow of the game a defense will key in on probably the only strength you have.

This offense hasn't been 100% yet this season for a full game. I'm sure when we get all of our horses on the track things will get back to normal with this Oline. Of course, we'll have to make due until that happens.
 

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Nothing that Sturm showed here had much to do with scheme. Guys were just getting physically beaten or making mental errors. There's really no excuse for the play where Stupar gets off of both Martin and Clutts, Free failing to get leverage on an LB, or Tyron getting gasses around the edge.

Those things all had very little to do with scheme, our guys just got whooped int he second half.

Yep. They just got beat, there's no getting around it. Our defense did, too.
 

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there are going to be games where you just get beat by people YOU should beat. It will happen.

Now I do think that the coaching staff has a large part of the blame here; not only on play calling but in their reluctance to give the O line more playing time together in pre season. I know Free was out but we had the other four the whole time and how many playing minutes did they get? not much.
 

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come on guys, its only the 3rd game of Pollacks full tenure. Yes the line wasnt all that, ok it was overhyped. Yes Callahan was good, not many wanted him here at first and it took him more than 3 games to get it going.

Pollack deserves more than 3 games and we as fans need to stop hyping any good play or a good game due to the mediocrity we are used to. Give the team some realism. 3rd game for Pollack and i am still hearing excuses for Garrett after how many years?

Lets keep it in perspective.
 

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come on guys, its only the 3rd game of Pollacks full tenure. Yes the line wasnt all that, ok it was overhyped. Yes Callahan was good, not many wanted him here at first and it took him more than 3 games to get it going.

Pollack deserves more than 3 games and we as fans need to stop hyping any good play or a good game due to the mediocrity we are used to. Give the team some realism. 3rd game for Pollack and i am still hearing excuses for Garrett after how many years?

Lets keep it in perspective.

I'm not sure the problem is with the Coach. It's hard to say right now. That PHI game, I think the officiating crew went crazy. And we had Zack Martin missing a lot of camp. Leary and Free, too. It might just be it's taking them time to round into shape. It's still the case that the OL that was supposed to be the strength of the team gave up two sacks and multiple negative rushing plays in the second half yesterday on a team that was desperately trying to cover up for a couple of missing all pro skill players.
 

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Parnell would have made this play. :)
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Yep. I kind of had a feeling this might happen. For one the loss of Cally. Two the hype train. And lastly people are going to study and breakdown the "best" oline in the league from the year before and find ways to beat it just like they would a new QB.

The plays that Sturm showed were not scheme problems (i.e. Missing Callahan). The individual players were just getting beaten.

I agree that defenses probably studied overtime on how the attack the Cowboys running scheme.

Parnell would have made the blocks that Free can't make. They should have kept him.

Clutts sucks. That should not have been a difficult block after Martin already had the defender's momentum going away from the play.

Collins took the wrong angle on that play with two defenders in the backfield. He is supposed to go down the line laterally but he moved forward making it impossible for him to pick up the guy that Fred was passing off. For people wondering, that's why Leary is still the starter when healthy.

I don't think Martin is 100%. He has struggled to maintain blocks.

On the sack, Weeden has the entire right side open with no defenders in that area. He needs to move faster to avoid the sack.

The biggest issues is that the Falcons were loading up at the line against the run and with their pass rush because they had no concerns about Weeden throwing past 10 yards.
 

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The O line had a bad game for them. They got beaten way too often by guys THEY should beat. That is not coaching at all.
 
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