Sturm: Marinelli Report - Green Bay

[bark]

Anyone have any idea where Crawford got hurt?

Not sure which game but it happened fairly early in the year.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

We have gone 3 and out on 23.74% of our drives this season (20th in the league). Below avg? Yes. Terrible? Not really.
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/three-and-out-percentage/2015/

We also third in the league in time of possession.
https://www.teamrankings.com/nfl/stat/average-time-of-possession-net-of-ot

The defense, otoh, has been on the field for only 807 snaps this season (26th in the league).
http://www.sportingcharts.com/nfl/stats/defensive-snaps/2015/

So I ask again: what has the defense done this year that they should be so worn out at the end of games?

Nice site.

Fair enough. I thought the 807 was more around the median.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Kiffin was at USC before Dallas.

Kiffin was around during the 12-4 season mentoring Marinelli.

Now you see Marinelli on the sidelines looking lost and baffled.

Kiffin was at USC before Dallas but that doesn't change the fact that he still wanted to try and help Lane save his job. Lane Kiffen lost the first two Conference games in 2013. He was already on the hot seat from the previous season, 7-6 in 2012 having lost 4 conference games including cross city rival UCLA, Traditional Rival Notre Dame and the Sun Bowl to Georgia Tech. Incidentally, Monte Kiffin was the Assistant HC on that 2012 USC team and the USC defense was ranked 70th in the nation. In 2013, Arizona St hung 62 on USC and Pat Haden fired Lane Kiffin literally, right after that. So yes, Monte did want to leave Dallas to try and help Lane. The problem was that Lane new his Dad was not going to help but that doesn't change the fact that this is what Monte wanted. This idea you have that Dallas should have kept Monte Kiffin as DC is just not credible. Monte was a great Defensive Coach in his time but his time was past. He was terrible at USC and he was bad in Dallas.

The Cowboys Defense is not the problem and Marinelli didn't look all that lost to me earlier this year against the Skins. I think you are reaching here.

 

[Alexander]

I hope the Cowboys don't consider using a high draft pick or a big money FA at CB.

Are you kidding?

They are already gearing up to spend a top ten pick to waste on one.

 

[Mr Cowboy]

Are you kidding?

They are already gearing up to spend a top ten pick to waste on one.

The next Deion Sanders? We've heard that one before!

 

[khiladi]

The primary method of flipping the field is via takeaways. Case in point - Carolina.

1st in the league in % of opponent drives ending in a turnover;
1st in avg starting field position;
1st in drives starting in the opponents territory.

By comparison we are dead last, 29th and tied for dead last. Not surprisingly, Carolina is really good and we are not. That's just how it works.



I ask again: provide an example of the defense getting a stop in the 4th qtr with a game on the line. I can't recall one.

What I can recall is several instances where our much maligned offense had manged to scratch and claw out a lead or a tie in the 4th qtr only to watch helplessly from the sidelines as the (supposedly blameless) defense allowed the opposition to go right down the field for the game winning score.



Enlighten me. It certainly can't be due to fatigue, given that our offense is 3rd in time of possession.



How exactly do you think teams without their starting qb's win games? Here's a hint: they take the ball away.

How is this for enlightenment:

1. If your offense is not scoring, than their is no reason for the opposing offense to press, to keep pace, thus increasing he likelihood of TOs, is there?

2. We are also 30th in scoring, despite being 3 in TOP. So that would imply we are getting ALOT more chances with out back-up QBs than the rest of the league, including those that have their starting QBs yet we still can't score. So is that the defenses fault?

3. If we are 30th in scoring and holding onto the ball at a rate of 3rd in TOP, how could we be scratching and clawing our way out of playing from behind, because of the defense? That means we are on the field all the time as an offense and can't score.

4. Our offense has turned the ball over 23 times. I'm assuming per your argument, that is the fault of the defense. So your logic is that basically teams beat us by generating TOs, but it's our defenses fault for our offense giving the ball back to the opposing team 23 times and further, our fault the defense couldn't hold, despite the fact Cassell has gifted the opposing team at least 2INTs for a TD.

Do you see how that works? Teams win primarily by TOs per your argument here, yet part of the reason a defense can generate TOs against another team is because the opposing offense, like Dallas', blows chunks.

Got to love how you draw imaginary lines about what dictate folding, as long as it's on the defense..

5. What did our offense do when Hardy intercepted the ball that is it the offense in red-zone a few games back?

6. What is our rate of scoring based in the TOs our defense gets? What makes you think the trend would continue if we got a couple more TOs that would jump is to even middle of the pack?

7. Being 3 in TOP doesn't mean our defense can't be more tired. It's called being smaller at DL than the OL, battling much larger linemen. And this was the point about GB, who dominated the TOP by 15 minutes.

8. And conveniently you ignored the fact that our special teams has been awful, which directly impacts our starting field position and you conveniently tried to avoid it by bringing up Carolina's ranking, as if this has anything to do with why Dallas starts where they do. You argument is that it's purely DEFENSE for Dallas, which is a false argument.

Telling me that Carolina is number 1, whopping do, but that offers me nothing other than Carolina is probably sound in all phases of the game.

9. That being said I've never denied the defense doesn't have issues. But that is by design by the coaching staff to play conservative in all aspects of the game, which is another problem. This defense very rarely plays aggressive and this mentality bleeds from the HC downward.