Sturm: Marinelli Report - Kicked In the Teeth

[Doomsday101]

Agreed. But you have to play deeper than ten yards from the line of scrimmage. That's on the QB or coaches. We will never know for sure who was at fault that game.

I don't disagree, I do put more on the coaches for the simple reason I feel Weeden was not going to alter the game plan and I think the game plan was for Weeden to throw the high percentage passes and avoid the major mistakes. Once you start seeing how the defense is playing you in the 2nd half I think Linehan should have gotten with Weeden about taking shots down the field. I just do not think a backup QB is going to take it upon himself to alter what is being asked of him.

 

[Idgit]

Sure, then you can say I'm stalking you. I know how you work.

I'm just happy to get the attention. There's no other possible explanation for being on the wrong side of the 'Weeden did not completely suck' debate.

 

[chris1995]

Football is a pretty simple game when you boil it down to its roots. Sure, we see it present itself in new places with new names every new year, but the basic tenets of football reveal themselves every Sunday in the following way: Blocking and tackling. In other words, can my guys block better than your guys can tackle? Can my guys tackle better than your guys can block?

Well, on Sunday, everyone who followed football knew the Cowboys were going to have their hands full with Julio Jones. He is awesome and maybe the best in the business as of this moment. But, nobody in the world expected the Cowboys, who had just been praised for limiting the Eagles running game to 7 yards on 17 carries, to be beaten into a bloody pulp by Devonta Freeman. Freeman is a talented young player, but up until this day, in 2 seasons in the NFL, he had 87 career carries for 291 yards (3.3 per carry). So, who anticipated 30 carries for 141 (4.7)?

Welcome to the NFL, where you better bring it every Sunday.

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Well the second half was not played as hard or as well as the 1st half. Dallas came out of the gate fast but then slowed down and made mistakes.

 

[ShiningStar]

Because the backup QB actually did his job? Where most of the starters on defense did not?

i think its more, "the rah rah " crowd realized some of the players arent as good as advertised.

 

[Idgit]

i think its more, "the rah rah " crowd realized some of the players arent as good as advertised.

I'm never sure who the 'rah rah' crowd is supposed to be, since most of the stuff that gets attributed to them is exaggeration from cynical posters who think they're being edgy by just being skeptical. But there's no doubt that it was the defense and the OL/outside WRs who underdelivered against the Falcons.

As we've said elsewhere, the OL has underwhelmed its huge potential so far this year and that's a running problem. The defense, though, had looked great until last week. We did have a couple DLs out, and that obviously was a big chunk of the problem, but they really weren't good at any level of the defense, especially the LBs and DEs.

 

[burmafrd]

I don't disagree, I do put more on the coaches for the simple reason I feel Weeden was not going to alter the game plan and I think the game plan was for Weeden to throw the high percentage passes and avoid the major mistakes. Once you start seeing how the defense is playing you in the 2nd half I think Linehan should have gotten with Weeden about taking shots down the field. I just do not think a backup QB is going to take it upon himself to alter what is being asked of him.

Both Garret and Linehan are responsible for Weedon not trying to do more. You are absolutely correct in that Weedon would not deviate from what he had been told to do and I do not blame him for that at all. It is on the OC and HC to change a game plan Neither one did so despite Red Ball trying to cover it up in his presser.

 

[Bleu Star]

I wish we had Atlanta's FB.

We have Clutz. We're good.

 

[Bullflop]

Yeah. I knew it. Guess the beer helped me not know it was that bad. It was bad.

I had only consumed two brewskies by the time the 2nd half started. After a brief period of time thereafter, then I decided two more wouldn't be such a bad idea at all. Sadly, I was still far too aware, even after downing them.

 

[xwalker]

We have Clutz. We're good.

They should trade C-Mike for Atlanta's FB.

 

[Bleu Star]

They should trade C-Mike for Atlanta's FB.

Ok. Why keep Clutz though? Trade Clutz & a bucket of chicken for ATL's FB.

 

[xwalker]

Ok. Why keep Clutz though? Trade Clutz & a bucket of chicken for ATL's FB.

Throw Clutts in with C--Mike on the deal.

 

[Bleu Star]

Throw Clutts in with C--Mike on the deal.

Bad deal. C-Mike will save our decrepit running game.

 

[Zman5]

Ok. Why keep Clutz though? Trade Clutz & a bucket of chicken for ATL's FB.

We are saving Clutz for Jacksonville's 2nd round next year and Parnell. We'll throw in the bucket of chicken.

 

[xwalker]

Bad deal. C-Mike will save our decrepit running game.

No, he won't. The blocking and the inability of the passing game to back the defense off the line is the problem with the running game.

The Cowboys win the Atlanta game if they had swapped FBs beforehand.

 

[Bleu Star]

No, he won't. The blocking and the inability of the passing game to back the defense off the line is the problem with the running game.

The Cowboys win the Atlanta game if they had swapped FBs beforehand.

Power running inspires the guys that work in the trenches. Blocking mightily only to find that your rb has once again done the nae nae in the hole is deflating. Take that as you will.

Free Christine

 

[Rogerthat12]

Again, why is it so hard for people to put blame on multiple areas?

Why are some of you so hell bent on trying to place majority of the blame on just one person or one group?

That loss falls at the feet of multiple areas - coaching, the crappy defense, the awful QB.

Why are people trying to make this out to be much harder than it is? The defense was brutal. But the offense, with that backup QB, managed 50 yards of offense over 30 minutes of football. That's horrid.

Shared suckage, you nailed it!

 

[Rogerthat12]

Great work.

IMO, Lawrence is getting to much blame. On the goal line play I can't blame him for almost making a great play while the middle of the line is wide open.

On the plays where he loops outside or crashes down inside and the run comes through that area, he is doing what they coached him to do, IMO. I've seen that over and over with multiple DE since Marinelli/Kiffin arrived. If they want more pass rush they give the DE the go to basically abandon the run lanes and go max pass rush. I'm fairly certain it is part of the defensive play call on when the DE stays home against the run or not.

I would like to have seen him make the tackle when the RB cut blocked him but he was going for the big play over playing it safe. There were plenty of LBs and DBs behind him such that going for the big play should have been OK (I think).

The LBs were off in this game. I thought Hitchens and Lee had been terrific in the 1st two games but they both seemed off in this game, especially Hitchens. Wilber got boxed out at times also. This is the 1st game where I thought RoMc would have been really helpful.

The Zone running got the DTs moving and then susceptible to the cutback or power runs. That's what the Cowboys were doing to defenses last year.

We got a dose of the medicine we dished out last year.

 

[Rogerthat12]

He did his job in the first half and took what the defense was giving him.
He didn't adjust in the 2nd half achieving 0 points and 2 first downs (excluding garbage time). That's no doing one's job.

If he keeps "doing his job" in upcoming games where defenses play him like they did in the 2nd half of the Atlanta game, he won't win a single game even if the defense were to play at top 5 levels.

Weeden analysis second half work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=5&v=dvUrscSs1VM
You nailed it!

 

[stilltheguru88]

What the hell was 93 doing in the second gif?

 

[DandyDon52]

Football is a pretty simple game when you boil it down to its roots. Sure, we see it present itself in new places with new names every new year, but the basic tenets of football reveal themselves every Sunday in the following way: Blocking and tackling. In other words, can my guys block better than your guys can tackle? Can my guys tackle better than your guys can block?

Well, on Sunday, everyone who followed football knew the Cowboys were going to have their hands full with Julio Jones. He is awesome and maybe the best in the business as of this moment. But, nobody in the world expected the Cowboys, who had just been praised for limiting the Eagles running game to 7 yards on 17 carries, to be beaten into a bloody pulp by Devonta Freeman. Freeman is a talented young player, but up until this day, in 2 seasons in the NFL, he had 87 career carries for 291 yards (3.3 per carry). So, who anticipated 30 carries for 141 (4.7)?

Welcome to the NFL, where you better bring it every Sunday.

Read the rest: http://beta.sportsdaydfw.com/dallas...marinelli-report-cowboys-defense-kicked-teeth

30 carries is the key, a back needs a lot of carries to have a good day.
our guys are getting 16 max, and it isnt enough.