Sturm thinks there is more the story re: Tony's shoulder

[superonyx]

It shouldn't.....

It's time to move on from dude whether we want to admit it or not.

He's done, he can come back all he wants but he will never be the same, and we won't go anywhere or do anything with dude.

It must really suck thinking like you do.
So basically you have no hope for this team winning for several years regardless? Or does your only hope lie in hoping we draft a QB in the first round AND Romo gets seriously injured again and somehow this rookie QB will come in and carry us to playoff success?
You say Romo will never be the same...so then you have to hope he gets injured? AND you have to hope his backup is ready to come in and play at a level anywhere close to the level Romo has played over the last few years.....

Nice.

 

[LittleD]

There were legitimate 12 win seasons twice...and playoff strength is built also.

I hope you're right. I think the 2014 team and the last year of Parcells where Tony fumbled were the best chances to get to the dance.
Our OL should only get better and if we can improve the defense we just might get a foothold. Here's to hoping!

 

[Sydla]

The more stories and opinions like this come out.............. the more and more I become convinced they have to take a QB at 4.

 

[BrassCowboy]

This is why we need to bite the bullet and pick up a qb in the draft if one is there we like

 

[big dog cowboy]

The more stories and opinions like this come out.............. the more and more I become convinced they have to take a QB at 4.

Makes zero sense unless the grade is there. You don't force a pick especially at 4.

 

[BARRYRAY]

You guys worry too much.I mean really just because we aren't talking about the bad back here--how many of you guys have disc problems.I do and lets get real this never goes away.This guys is one wrong twist away from injury.He has so much medical issues here it isn't funny.His days are numbered.

This guy is not built like Troy Aikman, And he can no longer move around in the pocket at all.Drafting at qb.Amazed at all the disinformation otherwise.Not sure which one we get but it has to be better than last year.And all this hooie about he may have to sit for a couple of years , yea right, if he sits until game two I will be surprised.

Old soldiers(qb) never die they just fade away.This guys is 45 years old back and injury wise.Hit way too much and now everybody knows it and hits him every play.

 

[Sydla]

Makes zero sense unless the grade is there. You don't force a pick especially at 4.

Well of course. If Goff is rated 24th on their board and Wentz 17th, sure, you don't take them if you stay at 4.

My point is more along the lines where you have the QBs rated high on your board but when the pick comes, they foolishly buy into the theory that Romo is good for 3-4 years and take a positional player over a QB because they believe his impact is more immediate.

 

[cowboyblue22]

tony had to golden opportunities to go to the superbowl in 2007 2003 and 2014 every time him and the team spit the bit

 

[cowboyblue22]

sorry about 2003 was 2006 against seattle when he fumbled

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Sturm did a fairly big Q&A that can be found here:

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d...oys-mailbag-part-1-doubting-tony-romos-future

His response re: Tony's shoulder was a bit disturbing. Sturm makes no pretense to indicate it's anything other than his opinion/speculation, however, I've got a lot of respect for Sturm and I hope in this particular case he is wrong.

Here is the excerpt:

"Here it is: I don't think Romo's situation can be classified as a QB with "injury issues" anymore. Rather, I would suggest that Romo's collarbone situation would have to be called a "ticking time bomb." I think his future is week to week, not year to year. No longer a question of "if", but rather a matter of "when". I think that his collarbone has obviously not mended like they had first hoped and so here we sit - 159 days since Jordan Hicks broke it in September and 92 days since Thomas Davis got him again on Thanksgiving Day - without any further resolution that he is as good as new and ready to play. I might remind you that the Cowboys resisted the obvious plans of putting him on injured reserve because they originally assumed he would be available for the NFC Championship Game which was played on January 24th. 33 days ago.​

So, I don't believe his collarbone has mended properly since Thankgsiving. And I sure don't believe it healed like they thought it would from September - as evidenced best that he broke it again on a rather normal-looking hit on Thankgsiving Day. I am far from a medical expert, but I can read a calendar. When they talk about this 8-10 weeks business and we sit here at the end of February and discuss further procedures, but still under the banner of "everything is fine and there is no reason for alarm", I am tempted to sound the sirens. I am not buying it anymore. This Mumford procedure that discusses shaving off part of the clavicle seems like a very odd way to strengthen a collarbone. I am positive I am showing my medical ignorance, but I also am assuming that most people having that procedure are not having 300 lb linemen like Fletcher Cox or Johnathan Hankins trying to slam them right on their collarbone at their first chance in an effort to remove the Cowboys biggest and most indispensible weapon from the proceedings.​

I don't like it. In fact, I don't believe the rhetoric coming out of Valley Ranch on this topic anymore. I don't believe this 5-year window nonsense, and frankly, I don't believe they believe it either. There have been 8 QBs who were starters when Tony Romo took over the job in Dallas and remain starters today (Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Eli Manning, Ben Roethlisberger, Philip Rivers, Drew Brees, Carson Palmer, and Romo). The only one to have started as few games as Romo is Palmer, and that is only because the injury-prone Palmer also has a 9-game contract holdout to his credit. In other words, Romo has the worst health-related attendance record in his peer group, and it doesn't look like it will ever get better."​

If he actually ahd some complication that a plate wouldn't solve then I would buy it. This is just fearmongering.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Been saying this the whole offseason. Pure speculation in my part, but I think Tony is a lot closer to retirement than is being let on.. His back, his shoulder, 2 very young kids and he doesn't need the money. He loves other things besides football like golf... He doesn't owe this organization anything.

 

[DandyDon52]

Tony broke this back in 2010 and then again in 2015, that is not indicative of anything wrong or injury prone.
He took a beating for 5 years and finally got another hit on it that broke it..... or fractured it.

The 3rd time was because The jones boys are idiots, and tony is stupid, to try and come back in the same season you hurt it.
In 2010 he did not play again, so also had the whole off season for it to heal up good.

That is what should have happened instead of letting tony come back against miami which was way too early , and just stupid.

So that led to a 2nd break, on the still healing clavicle, so that was not good and could have created some new issue.

There is another procedure where they put a steel pin "inside" the bone, and it is special as it can flex like a bone would.
This to me would be the best as it would help it heal straight, and be stronger after it is healed.

I also think they should just let it heal normally , no surgery's to make it stronger, as that cant really be made to be
so strong it wont break if same hit occurs again.

Also Tony needs to learn how to fall so that he doesnt put a lot of impact force on that CB.
I sort of think he hurt it by putting his hand and or elbow down to break his fall, and that is what broke it , and the roll by the other
guy on him added to it.

I have read some bad things about the plate deal, and the shaving of bone, so those could hurt more than help.

Dont try to make him "Super Tony" who wont break , just go with regular tony and try and get another 5 years.

 

[Doc50]

Is it alarmist? perhaps.
Is there some validity to those points? 100%.
The procedure hasn't been done yet. That is alarming in and of itself.
When it takes this long to answer a question it seems there isn't an obvious and easy answer.

Tony was supposedly done with a back issue and now has had 3 collarbone breaks.

At some point we have to admit he has a lot of physical concerns piling up.

Read my previous posts on this.

The procedure had not been done yet because not enough time had passed to assess complete union at the fracture site.
Now that the bone is solid and therefore thicker and stronger than a normal clavicle, no internal fixation is necessary.
The Mumford is an option that can reduce the risk of clavicle fracture in anyone, simply by creating a space between the distal clavicular head and the adjacent acromion.
There is no joint pathology, and this is not his throwing shoulder.

I don't care who wants to worry about this, but it is a waste of energy to do so.

 

[DandyDon52]

Been saying this the whole offseason. Pure speculation in my part, but I think Tony is a lot closer to retirement than is being let on.. His back, his shoulder, 2 very young kids and he doesn't need the money. He loves other things besides football like golf... He doesn't owe this organization anything.

Tony loves playing and he wants to at least win a nfc title and go to a SB.
he will play as long as they let him.
He just needs to be smarter than playing 9 weeks after breaking CB.

he isnt in that bad of shape as some seem to think.

 

[plymkr]

This article did nothing for me. First off it's Sturm's opinoin of what he thinks is happening. He thinks the organization is lying about Romo's shoulder because he hasn't had surgery yet. Then he compares Romo to other qbs to prove his point that Romo is injury prone. Romo being injury prone is one fact and completely independent of the first point Sturm is making that the collarbone is not healed and/or is ending his career. Sturm is trying to convince readers there's more to the collarbone injury than the organization says by displaying how other qbs stayed healthy when Romo hasn't. That's called emotional manipulation. 2 points Sturm is trying to make, 1- is Romo's shoulder is more serious then we believe and the organization is lying about it. 2- romo is injury prone compared to his peers. Point 2 has no correlation to point 1 and is put in to invoke fear into the reader. Bottom line is that Sturm has no inside information, no more knowledge, or any other facts about Romo's injury than we do.

Relax, no need to jump off the emotional bridge until someone with knowledge of the situation tells us facts. Sturm and other writers are going to speculate and share their opinions but at the end of the day they are simply opnions. To be honest with you guys I think there's more intelligence and rationale with the posters on this board than the paid writers of the team. I stopped reading the beat writers years ago as I got more involved here.

 

[zack]

The Mumford procedure, also known as distal clavical resection, is a surgical procedure that aims to relieve shoulder pain by removing a small part of the clavicle, or collar bone. Patients suffering from painful inflammation, swelling, or osteoarthritis in the acromioclavicular (AC) joint — where the end of the clavicle meets the shoulder — may elect to have this procedure, especially if alternative solutions like physical therapy and cortisone injections are unsuccessful. The surgery can be performed using an open or arthroscopic procedure, and typically requires eight to ten weeks recovery time.

Reasons to Have this Surgery
Surgeons usually perform this procedure when bone spurs develop on the collar bone, narrowing the AC joint and preventing it from moving smoothly. These spurs can be caused by arthritis or overuse. A condition called distal clavicular osteolysis or "weightlifter's shoulder" can develop in people who put a great deal of stress on this joint; in this condition, the end of the clavicle begins to break down. Removing the damaged end of the collar bone can help relieve pain and restore movement for many of these patients.

The Mumford procedure is a relatively common and simple surgery, and has a high success rate. Clinical studies show that, depending on the underlying problem and the type of surgery used, at least 75% - 90% of patients report good to excellent outcomes

 

[Denim Chicken]

Romo may very well have another 2-4 years left, but if he breaks that collarbone again I think he retires.

 

[Rockport]

We will find out if this is true NY what the Cowboys do via FA and the draft.

 

[Rogerthat12]

That sufficiently scares the crap out of me and ruins my morning..............................................

Jack checking in at 245 lbs ruined your entire day!

 

[Rockport]

If he actually ahd some complication that a plate wouldn't solve then I would buy it. This is just fearmongering.

And most here are taking the bait without even knowing the facts about his options.