Sudden death OT....

[cowboyeric8]

Man, some people sound like girls complaining about "fair". I love NFL overtime. Nothing wrong with it. This is the pros, stop them or you lose, if you can't your offense should have put up more points in regulation. Quit crying.

 

[Cowboy4ever]

I don't have a problem with the sudden death aspect of OT. I don't have a problem with only 1 team touching the ball. The change I would make is to take FG out of OT. Make teams go down the field and earn it if you are not going to allow a possession by the other team.

 

[sonnyboy]

That stat is misleading the winner of the coin toss is 60% but not 60% with the opening drive. They count as part of that 60% the team going on to win but it could be the 2nd or 3rd drive before they win. On opening series it is 51% to 49%

Too large a sample size to be misleading. 60% is 60%. Wether they won on the first drive or not, it still demonstrates a clear advantage for the team winning the coin toss.

I believe the fact that this number has shifted after 1994 demonstartes a few things.
1) The 5 addition yards makes a difference
2) The game has shifted to favor offense. They really is no denying this fact.

Given this clear evidence that winning the coin toss does make a difference, perhaps a slight modification to the OT rules would make sense.

I said slight!

I want no part of a silly college football type modification. Or even a both teams get a possesion type change. If you do that, it changes the game too much. It's no longer pro football as we know it, it becomes something else.

I think moving up the KO spot 10 yards for OT would do the trick. It would all but insure the recieving team started at it's own 20 yard line. That should significantly reduce the advantage of receiving the KO.


Since we already have slightly different OT rules for the post-season (no ties), maybe we could remove the sudden death feature.
Just have the teams continue to play 5 min OTs til one ends with a team leading. Each team gets one TO per OT. KO from the 40 and play 5 mins.

 

[sonnyboy]

This is why your proposal will not work and will be deemed just as unfair. The advantage immediately shifts to the team that gets the ball 2nd because they will get 4 downs to move the ball and score should they need them.

To make overtime fair, you simply need to play a 5th quarter. You can shorten the time to 8-10 minutes and just play it normally. This is what basketball does and noone has ever complained about it being unfair. Just keep playing 8 minute quarters until someone is ahead when the clock hits 0:00. I don't see why people try and come up with fancy overtime rules that make overtime different from the regular game. I say just simply keep playing under the same exact rules until someone has won. It's just that simple to me.

Very smart!

I actually prefer your idea. 5 mins may be too short. How about 7.5 mins, or exactly 1/2 of a regulation quarter.

 

[Doomsday101]

Too large a sample size to be misleading. 60% is 60%. Wether they won on the first drive or not, it still demonstrates a clear advantage for the team winning the coin toss.

I believe the fact that this number has shifted after 1994 demonstartes a few things.
1) The 5 addition yards makes a difference
2) The game has shifted to favor offense. They really is no denying this fact.

Given this clear evidence that winning the coin toss does make a difference, perhaps a slight modification to the OT rules would make sense.

I said slight!

I want no part of a silly college football type modification. Or even a both teams get a possesion type change. If you do that, it changes the game too much. It's no longer pro football as we know it, it becomes something else.

I think moving up the KO spot 10 yards for OT would do the trick. It would all but insure the recieving team started at it's own 20 yard line. That should significantly reduce the advantage of receiving the KO.


Since we already have slightly different OT rules for the post-season (no ties), maybe we could remove the sudden death feature.
Just have the teams continue to play 5 min OTs til one ends with a team leading. Each team gets one TO per OT. KO from the 40 and play 5 mins.

60% is not 60%, if you failed to score the 1st time you punt and hold the other team down and get the ball back and win that is a bit different than saying the opening drive is 60% it isn't. Defense is as much a part of football as offense is and if you can't stop the other team then you lose all this well we should get the ball is non sense you want the ball then stop the other team if you are not good enough then you lose.

 

[DFWJC]

the away team has the advantage if anything since they get to choose the coin toss.

Surely you jest. A coin toss is a 50-50 proposition regardless of who calls it or what they call. This is fact. Please tell me you were joking.
Okay, I fell for it...good one.

 

[SilberBlau]

The rules are just fine.

There can't be a fair solution if the goal is to decide a tied game quickly. After all the previous 60 minutes showed that no team really deserves to win or lose. At some point you just have to put a little luck factor in it if 60 minutes can't bring a decision. The solution to break a tie can't be to change the rules in a way the gives the other team the possibility to tie the game.

 

[sonnyboy]

60% is not 60%, if you failed to score the 1st time you punt and hold the other team down and get the ball back and win that is a bit different than saying the opening drive is 60% it isn't. Defense is as much a part of football as offense is and if you can't stop the other team then you lose all this well we should get the ball is non sense you want the ball then stop the other team if you are not good enough then you lose.

No 60% is 60%.

60% of the teams winning the toss over 16 years have won the game.

This is clear evidence that winning the toss helps.

So what if only 29% of those teams scored on their 1st drive. Perhaps many of them moveed the ball past midfield and were able to pin the opposition deep.

Either way, it's still a 60% winning clip for the coin winner.

 

[dillinger319]

So what happens if neither team scores? Does it go to another overtime?

 

[Chocolate Lab]

The college overtime system is a joke. The NFL sudden death overtime is perfect the way it is.

Which probably means Roger Goodell is looking into changing it as I type.

 

[Doomsday101]

No 60% is 60%.

60% of the teams winning the toss over 16 years have won the game.

This is clear evidence that winning the toss helps.

So what if only 29% of those teams scored on their 1st drive. Perhaps many of them moveed the ball past midfield and were able to pin the opposition deep.

Either way, it's still a 60% winning clip for the coin winner.

Why they had to punt and use their defense to get the ball back so now didn't both offense have the ball? Fact is defense is part of the game just as offense is.

 

[wileedog]

The college overtime system is a joke. The NFL sudden death overtime is perfect the way it is.

Which probably means Roger Goodell is looking into changing it as I type.

He's going to have the overtime period moved to Thursday night and be played in Sweden.

 

[Bach]

So what happens if neither team scores? Does it go to another overtime?

In the regular season you just end in a tie. But in the postseason you'd just go to another OT and keep doing so until someone scores.

And, at least the NFL doesn't resort to penalty kicks at that point.

 

[Yeagermeister]

In the regular season you just end in a tie. But in the postseason you'd just go to another OT and keep doing so until someone scores.

And, at least the NFL doesn't resort to penalty kicks at that point.

Not according to McNabb

 

[Rampage]

Absolutely.

There have been other OT games in the postseason, yet now suddenly there is a cry out to make it "fair"? Why?

Oh I understand now. It was because poor Brett Favre could not get a chance to win after throwing the game away in regulation. Got it.

I didn't see a thread like this after the Packers-Cards game that went into overtime and the team that won the coin toss(Packers) lost that game.

 

[Doomsday101]

I didn't see a thread like this after the Packers-Cards game that went into overtime and the team that won the coin toss(Packers) lost that game.

Or the famous “we will take the win” comment by Hassleback after winning the toss when Seattle and GB played in a post season game only to see Hassleback throw an int that went for the TD. There is nothing unfair about OT

 

[Yeagermeister]

Or the famous “we will take the win” comment by Hassleback after winning the toss when Seattle and GB played in a post season game only to see Hassleback throw an int that went for the TD. There is nothing unfair about OT

Actually it was we will take the ball and we will score. Then pick 6

 

[Established1971]

...is a TERRIBLE rule. The NFL needs to take something from College Football and implement a similar overtime process.

I was not rooting for either team in the NFC Championship game, but seeing Minnesota lose in OT without a series on offense seemed unbalanced to me.

I guess the upside in this case is that the Super Bowl would be a good game no matter who played the Colts.

I think it is one of the worst things in sports. There are so many things you can do.

heres some ideas besides the old 1 posession each.

Have the end of regulation play out as if its going to simply continue with the start of the 5th quarter with the same team having the ball at the same spot with the same down and distance

Have the possession to start OT go to the team who won the time of possesion or the team who had more yards gained, or some measureable stat that is there to use.

Just have the home team get it first.

I can go on. I think its a travesty that it goes on like this, deciding it (for the most part) on a coin toss.

 

[Doomsday101]

I think it is one of the worst things in sports. There are so many things you can do.

heres some ideas besides the old 1 posession each.

Have the end of regulation play out as if its going to simply continue with the start of the 5th quarter with the same team having the ball at the same spot with the same down and distance

Have the possession to start OT go to the team who won the time of possesion or the team who had more yards gained, or some measureable stat that is there to use.

Just have the home team get it first.

I can go on. I think its a travesty that it goes on like this, deciding it (for the most part) on a coin toss.

The game is not decided by the coin toss it is decided by the play on the field.

 

[SilberBlau]

Just have the home team get it first.

I can go on. I think its a travesty that it goes on like this, deciding it (for the most part) on a coin toss.

So giving it to a team that wins the toin coss is wrong while giving it the home no matter what is fair? If you give it to a team automatically why give it to the the team that already has home field advantage?