Super Bowl... I don't think so.

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wayne_motley said:
Those who think we are going to the SB are in for a huge disappointment.

You're trolling on your own website, dude. How can you tell jack-anything before the draft?
 

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I guess my question to the ones who think we dont have a shot is, who is so much better? Who in the NFC is that much better than the Cowboys that you would say that we dont have a shot? I just dont see one. I'm not predicting a SB victory or even an appearence but I believe we have a shot. If for no other reason that I dont see any team out there that can dominate the NFC.
 

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Dallas lost several games on FG kicking alone

they should be able to win 11-12 games next year and be a LEGIT contender for the NFC championship game where anything can happen
 

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TruBlueCowboy said:
I say BS to anyone who says no Super Bowl. There isn't a single dominant team in the NFC. It's up for grabs. If this was the AFC, I'd be worried about Indy, the Steelers, the Pats and a few others. Indy is always right there when it comes to the Super Bowl. Before winning the Super Bowl last year, Pittsburgh had a 14-2 (or something like that) season not too long ago. The Pats just won three Super Bowls in 4 years.

And then over in the NFC....

The Seahawks just won their first playoff game under Holmgren last year.
The Eagles, the only team that can claim any dominance in recent years, has fallen apart.
The Bears are a one year wonder until they prove otherwise.
Commanders, Giants, Buccs, are all new kids on the block after some recent disappoining stints. Remains to be seen if they become as dominant as those AFC teams I listed.

Yup, NFC is up for grabs. You're only fooling yourself if you think the Cowboys can't win it all. I think the most consistent NFC team in recent years has been the Panthers and that's it. 2 NFC Championship games in 3 years. Their one down year was full of injuries to key players.

I think the offensive line looked pretty decent before Flozell went down. Like everyone points out, we were a 12-4 team last year with a decent kicker.

Barring injuries, the Cowboys are in the thick of it as much as any other NFC team.
I prefer to look at Star Power....who has a stud at QB, RB, and WR, or close to it, along with a decent defense. T.O. gives us one of the 3, but still one of the worst OL's in our own division.

That's why I don't see a SB this year.
 

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ravidubey said:
You're trolling on your own website, dude. How can you tell jack-anything before the draft?
Well brighteyes, maybe because the draft doesn't put anyone over the hump for a SB...it prepares for future SB's....do you actually think the guys we draft at #18 and in later rounds will be impact starters who will lead us to the SB? The draft will have very little impact on how good we'll be this year. Even if we draft an OL with our first pick, he'll struggle to start or have an impact.

Sorry you don't like my opinion, but to think the rookies we draft this year will have an impact on our SB aspirations is just plain stupid, dude...:)
 

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Dalmations202 said:
This team goes as the O-Line takes them. Too much hinges on the OLine.

IMO, Dallas should spend 2 first day picks on guys they think will be starting by mid-season.

I like your thinking...I'd love nothing better than drafting an OT and an OG with our first two picks...I don't forsee those guys starting this year unless we're worse than most fans think, but we won't be seeing a SB until we start rebuilding our OL through the draft, the way we addressed our DL last draft.

It's one thing to address critical weaknesses with guys like Rivera and Fabini, but those guys aren't going to take us to the promised land or create the type of OL Dallas winning teams are used to, imo.
 

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wayne_motley said:
Well brighteyes, maybe because the draft doesn't put anyone over the hump for a SB...it prepares for future SB's....do you actually think the guys we draft at #18 and in later rounds will be impact starters who will lead us to the SB? The draft will have very little impact on how good we'll be this year. Even if we draft an OL with our first pick, he'll struggle to start or have an impact.

Sorry you don't like my opinion, but to think the rookies we draft this year will have an impact on our SB aspirations is just plain stupid, dude...:)

I believe the MVP of the Seahawks defense last year was a rookie named Lofa Tatupu... I could be wrong though;)
 

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wayne_motley said:
I prefer to look at Star Power....who has a stud at QB, RB, and WR, or close to it, along with a decent defense. T.O. gives us one of the 3, but still one of the worst OL's in our own division.

That's why I don't see a SB this year.
Who in the NFC has a stud QB, RB AND WR??
 

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Defence coord. do it all the time. Are you telling me that defences just play straight up all the time? No 8 man in the box against dominant RB's? No double dominant WR's? They will not keep TO in check. Epecially if you single coverage him. The coord. will plan around TO and it will help the whold O. Are line was bad last year but he had more than a second many of times.

Agreed completely... If you think TO doesn't change the way Defenses play against us, compared to KJ then there's something wrong. Last year, defenses could play 8 in the box on PASSING downs, because they could play one on one on each of our WRs with a S rolled over the top of TG. You could play single coverage on KJ, because he wasn't going to blow by anyone. Let's see Ds do that against us this year. TO would have a career high in TDs. And if they flipped it, put 2 on TO... TG loves single coverage.
 

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peplaw06 said:
Who in the NFC has a stud QB, RB AND WR??
wayne's madden video game custom roster?

some people are stuck in football circa '92

ps - we're absolutely a contender next season.
 

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wayne_motley said:
I have issues? Or our team has issues?

Here, you'll like this better: I see us going no worse than 12-4 and playing in the NFC championship...we are clearly one of the super bowl favorites thanks to T.O., who will make the entire city of Dallas a better place, along with Vanderjack (we'd have been in the SB hunt last season with him), and let's not forget that we have made huge strides with our OL this year...it wouldn't surprise me to see Adams, Fabini, and Rivera all in the ProBowl, though Kozier gets robbed...Go Cowboys.

Wow...I'll bet my I.Q. just went up 30 points, huh?

I'm sorry that you have problems understanding plain English but let me reiterate: YOU have some SERIOUS issues!!

In your slanted analysis, you have taken the almost worst case scenario for every area you addressed about the team's off-season work. That is clearly indicative of an unrealistic and extremely pessimistic point of view. This point of view is frequently associated with a depressive personality or a personality that guards against failure or disappointment by lowering expectations.

The alternative point of view you posted in your response is indicative of an unrealistic and extremely optimistic perspective.

My point of view is somewhere in the middle of the two you proposed (a more realistic and balanced perspective).

By the way, I am a clinical psychologist so I am qualified to make such observations. And, you really don't want to know my expert opinion of your IQ.;)
 

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Who in the NFC has a stud QB, RB AND WR??
Most teams in our own division have at least 2 out of 3:

Washington has the RB and WR to go with a QB who was solid but unspectacular last season...and a fine defense.

NY has the RB and WR to go with a very young, but talented QB, and a fine defense.

Phily is the shakiest...they have only 1 of the 3, but it's the QB who's been a ProBowler for several years and taken his team to big games over and over.

Carolina has all 3...not saying Delhomme is a superstar...he isn't, but he's a solid proven winner....and Foster came into his own last season.

Seattle has 2 of 3, and they seem to have found a go to WR last season.

The Rams were weak on defense, but they have the QB and WR and believe they have the RB in Jackson.

If the Bears could ever stay healthy at QB, they have the defense, the WR, and perhaps their RB in Benson.

We have Bledsoe, who threw the 2nd most ints in the league, 17, RB by committee while we hope JJ will finally put a season together, and for the first time, finally, we do have the WR in Owens...whom we are all confident will be great for us, at least for a couple of years. We have no depth at all at QB or WR.

You guys are spending so much time attacking me because it bothers you that I don't think we have a SB team, which I find ridiculous...we missed the playoffs entirely last year. I have said from the first post that we could do it if every piece comes together in a fantasy year for us, if every HOPE works out: QB, RB, WR, TE, OL, defense. All I have pointed out is that we DO have questions that are still merely HOPES at QB, RB, and OL especially. I will be sorely disappointed if we don't make the playoffs...I'll be more than ready for Parcells to get out if we don't make an appearance in the postseason, let alone win an actual playoff game.

I just don't think we look like a SB team...I see serious unproven key positions along our offense...I don't understand why so many people have a problem with that.
 

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wayne_motley said:
Most teams in our own division have at least 2 out of 3:

Washington has the RB and WR to go with a QB who was solid but unspectacular last season...and a fine defense.

NY has the RB and WR to go with a very young, but talented QB, and a fine defense.

Phily is the shakiest...they have only 1 of the 3, but it's the QB who's been a ProBowler for several years and taken his team to big games over and over.

Carolina has all 3...not saying Delhomme is a superstar...he isn't, but he's a solid proven winner....and Foster came into his own last season.

Seattle has 2 of 3, and they seem to have found a go to WR last season.

The Rams were weak on defense, but they have the QB and WR and believe they have the RB in Jackson.

If the Bears could ever stay healthy at QB, they have the defense, the WR, and perhaps their RB in Benson.

We have Bledsoe, who threw the 2nd most ints in the league, 17, RB by committee while we hope JJ will finally put a season together, and for the first time, finally, we do have the WR in Owens...whom we are all confident will be great for us, at least for a couple of years. We have no depth at all at QB or WR.

You guys are spending so much time attacking me because it bothers you that I don't think we have a SB team, which I find ridiculous...we missed the playoffs entirely last year. I have said from the first post that we could do it if every piece comes together in a fantasy year for us, if every HOPE works out: QB, RB, WR, TE, OL, defense. All I have pointed out is that we DO have questions that are still merely HOPES at QB, RB, and OL especially. I will be sorely disappointed if we don't make the playoffs...I'll be more than ready for Parcells to get out if we don't make an appearance in the postseason, let alone win an actual playoff game.

I just don't think we look like a SB team...I see serious unproven key positions along our offense...I don't understand why so many people have a problem with that.

I just love it.

Bledsoe played better than Brunell and he is a ? while Brunell was solid.

Have you ever posted anything positive about this team EVER?

Seriously if they cause you this much angst, why not do yourself a favor and stop following them, unless you have stock in Rolaids or something.:lmao2:
 

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wayne_motley said:
Most teams in our own division have at least 2 out of 3: ...


Carolina has all 3...not saying Delhomme is a superstar...he isn't, but he's a solid proven winner....and Foster came into his own last season.

Foster is hardly a "Stud" RB who "came into his own last season." Here Wayne, look at the stats for Foster v. JJ:

Foster
16 games, 205 carries, 879 yds, 58.6 yards per game, 4.3 per carry, 2 TDs

Jones
13 games, 257 carries, 993 yards, 76.4 per game, 3.9 per carry, 5 TDs


In 3 less games, JJ almost had 1000 yards, and 3 more TDs... it's not even close. So the answer to my question who has a STUD QB, WR, AND RB is, NOBODY!! Unless your definitions of stud vary with what team you're looking at. You sound like a mediot who has an agenda to trash the Cowboys. Like it was said above, trolling your own team.

And nevermind that you didn't address the fact that rookies CAN and HAVE put teams over the hump to get to the Super Bowl.

Sorry to bump this up again guys, just needed to give Wayne a dose of reality.
 

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wayne_motley said:
Most teams in our own division have at least 2 out of 3:
Really?

The Giants have a stud RB now that Tiki has stopped fumbling. Eli has yet to prove that he is a stud QB, and Burress is far from a stud WR.

Washington has a stud WR. I haven't been that impressed with Portis in Washington, and Brunell is far from being a stud.

Philly has McNabb at QB who is a stud when he is not injured. They have nothing at WR and a RB who cannot effectively run 25+ times per game.

Carolina has all 3...not saying Delhomme is a superstar...he isn't, but he's a solid proven winner....and Foster came into his own last season.
Delhomme is solid, but he is not a stud. Foster is far from being a stud RB. Steve Smith is the only player that falls in this category. Carolina has one.

Seattle has 2 of 3, and they seem to have found a go to WR last season.
Seattle has two, and I don't think any of their WR have come close to being a stud.

The Rams were weak on defense, but they have the QB and WR and believe they have the RB in Jackson.
The Rams have all three, but failed to make the playoffs.

If the Bears could ever stay healthy at QB, they have the defense, the WR, and perhaps their RB in Benson.
The Bears do not have a stud QB or RB.

The Cowboys have one of the three - Owens at WR. The Cowboys also were one of the better teams in the NFC before Flozell Adams was injured. You just don't replace one of the better left tackles in the NFL with a guy off the street and expect for the offense to play at a high level.

As far as you criteria for studs, I remember the Patriots winning the superbowl with Tom Brady, a below average RB, and average (at best) receivers. They routinely beat the Colts who were even at QB, and much better at RB and WR.
 

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I just love it.

Bledsoe played better than Brunell and he is a ? while Brunell was solid.

Have you ever posted anything positive about this team EVER?

Seriously if they cause you this much angst, why not do yourself a favor and stop following them, unless you have stock in Rolaids or something.:lmao2:

Under what scenario? Brunell had less yards but also less attempts/completions (as he sits in a prodominantly run-oriented offense). He also had less to work with, with only one receiver to really throw at. But he also throw just as many TDs (23) with almost half the interceptions (17 vs. 10). QB rating ended out 85.9 vs. 83.7; over two points difference. That's not including the fact that Brunell can scramble and pick up the first with his feet. Bledsoe most definitely can't.
Furthermore, I don't remember him making a gigantic mistake that ended up costing the Skins the game. Can you say that about Bledsoe?
 

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Washington has a stud WR. I haven't been that impressed with Portis in Washington, and Brunell is far from being a stud.

The Cowboys have one of the three - Owens at WR. The Cowboys also were one of the better teams in the NFC before Flozell Adams was injured. You just don't replace one of the better left tackles in the NFL with a guy off the street and expect for the offense to play at a high level.

Since when is over 1500 yds and 11 TDs not a stud? He's been better then 1500 in 3 of his 4 years as a pro. The only year was when he came into a new system in 04. He's a top 5, if not a top 10, RB.
 

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Since when is over 1500 yds and 11 TDs not a stud? He's been better then 1500 in 3 of his 4 years as a pro. The only year was when he came into a new system in 04. He's a top 5, if not a top 10, RB.
Top 5?????? LaDanian Tomlinson, Tiki Barber, Shaun Alexander, Larry Johnson, Edgerrin James, and Cadillac Williams are all better than Clinton Portis.
 

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Brunnell is one more big hit from going bye bye. Portis is very good- but wears down late in season since Gibbs runs him like crazy. Moss had a great year last year but lets see him do it again. And mr dumbhawk, you seem to forget some of Brunnells less then stellar plays.
 
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