Supervillan movies

[joseephuss]

http://www.wired.com/underwire/2013/12/spiderman-venom-sinister-six/

Two Spider-Man Spinoff Movies Announced: Venom and Sinister Six

Ahead of next year’s The Amazing Spider-Man 2, Sony has revealed plans for two spin-off movies in addition to the already-announced Amazing Spider-Man 3 and Amazing Spider-Man 4 — one where the bad guys get the spotlight.

The newly announced films are Venom — written by Bill & Ted’s Excellent Adventures co-creator Ed Solomon and Star Trek writers Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci, who are already signed to script Amazing Spider-Man 3 — and The Sinister Six, which will be written by Cabin in the Woods co-writer and director Drew Goddard. Goddard, Solomon, Kurtzman and Orci will act as the official Spider-Man “brain trust” overseeing the production of the films.

While Venom, an alien parasite obsessed with Spider-Man who debuted in the comics during the mid-1980s, already appeared in Sam Raimi’s 2007 movie Spider-Man 3, the Sinister Six is a relatively new concept for movie fans: a team of bad guys, united by their hatred for a particular superhero.

 

[Nova]

Interesting stuff.

I'm not a big fan of spiderman, and I gotta say I'm not a big proponent of all these movies attempting to emulate the Avengers mold (spiderman, DC comics, Fantastic Four reboot rumors, etc).

I'll still probably check it out, though.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

I thought there was gonna be a SpiderMan 4 (with Tobey Macguire) after SpiderMan 3 when Venom was introduced (by the guy from That 70's Show). But I think they gave up on that series.

 

[JoeyBoy718]

I don't know how they already have 4 Amazing Spidermans announced when Raimi's series only went 3 and I thought that series was way more popular than this one. I thought 1 and 2 were great (3 was ok).

 

[Nova]

I thought there was gonna be a SpiderMan 4 (with Tobey Macguire) after SpiderMan 3 when Venom was introduced (by the guy from That 70's Show). But I think they gave up on that series.

They were pretty close to getting that going. Then Raimi walked away from the project, followed by the rest.

Spiderman 3 actually wasn't even supposed to feature Venom as a villain, just the venom device (the substance that turned Spiderman into an aggressor) but the studio execs forced it into the movie because it's what the audience wanted. That's why it became somewhat of a trainwreck.

The 4th film was supposed to feature 3 villains as well The Lizard [with the same Doc Conners from the other films], The vulture [John Malcovich] and Vultress [Anne Hathaway].

I don't know how they already have 4 Amazing Spidermans announced when Raimi's series only went 3 and I thought that series was way more popular than this one. I thought 1 and 2 were great (3 was ok).

This was my thought. They're planning so far ahead and the new reboot didn't do as well as the 2002 version.

Well, actually. They made about the same amount of money worldwide (70 million less for the reboot) but was about 140 million shy in the US market from the 2002 film's mark. And that's not accounting for ticket prices being higher with 3D totals and general inflation.

 

[Supercowboy1986]

i really like the idea of super villan movie but i really like the idea

count me in for a movie starring dr doom

 

[Hoov]

i really like the idea of super villan movie but i really like the idea

count me in for a movie starring dr doom

How do you like the one starring Jerry Jones so far ?

 

[Teren_Kanan]

Sometimes a movie is SO BAD it kills a franchise and the possibility for sequels. Spiderman 3 was such a movie.

Amazing Spiderman was a pretty bad movie (not Spiderman3 bad, mind you), compared to Spiderman 1 and 2, so I don't have much hope for anything related to it, but will wait for further reviews as I am a huge spiderman fan.

 

[Nomad]

Unfortunately Sony owns the rights to the Spiderman movies, they only really made the recent "Amazing Spiderman" to keep the rights from returning to Marvel. Early on Sony made all the comic movies FF SM XM before Marvel had the resources to do them directly, like they do now with Iron Man the Avengers etc. I actually really like the Raimi/McGuire Spiderman movies, 3s not as good of course but still better than the new ASM.

Truth is I think I'm getting bored with comic book movies especially when they are churning out subpar ones for a money grab.

 

[Teren_Kanan]

I actually really like the Raimi/McGuire Spiderman movies, 3s not as good of course but still better than the new ASM.

Truth is I think I'm getting bored with comic book movies especially when they are churning out subpar ones for a money grab.

Can't really agree with the end of that. Raimi's Spiderman 1/2 were lightyears ahead of Amazing Spiderman, but Spiderman 3 ranks near the worst superhero movies ever made, specially considering the quality of the first two.

But your bottom line is more or less correct. They are just trying to ride the cash cow at this point, instead of making good movies.

 

[Stash]

Interesting stuff.

I'm not a big fan of spiderman, and I gotta say I'm not a big proponent of all these movies attempting to emulate the Avengers mold (spiderman, DC comics, Fantastic Four reboot rumors, etc).

I'll still probably check it out, though.

It definitely looks like they're trying to get into the 'world-building' that Disney and Marvel are doing with the Avengers, but I have to wonder HOW they're actually going to be able to do it.

I'm not sure how the character rights work, but if they have the rights to Spider-Man and all of his villains, I don't see how these spin offs work without Spidey himself.

Don't you need someone for these guys to fight?

Otherwise, it looks to be a pretty boring movie.

 

[Nova]

It definitely looks like they're trying to get into the 'world-building' that Disney and Marvel are doing with the Avengers, but I have to wonder HOW they're actually going to be able to do it.

I'm not sure how the character rights work, but if they have the rights to Spider-Man and all of his villains, I don't see how these spin offs work without Spidey himself.

Don't you need someone for these guys to fight?

Otherwise, it looks to be a pretty boring movie.

I have no idea.

At first I thought that the Venom and Sinister 6 movies would be part of Spiderman 3 and Spiderman 4, but after reading the article in its entirety it seems like that's not the case and they will be their own separate movies.

It seems like it would make sense that Spiderman makes an appearance in those films, but then you essentially have 6 spiderman films before 2018... talk about a burnout.

And they can't just take on the police and good Samaritans. That would be pretty boring.

Just really feels like a lot of studios rushing to capitalize on what the Avengers franchise pulled off so well.

 

[KoRnyBrad]

Not a villain nor good guy but Deadpool needs a movie.

 

[Kevinicus]

I think Amazing Spider-man was better, in many ways, than Raimi's (which are all pretty bad if I watch them now, even 2), and look forward to the sequels now that they probably will get away from following the origin, which took a lot of energy out of Amazing.

 

[Nova]

I think Amazing Spider-man was better, in many ways, than Raimi's (which are all pretty bad if I watch them now, even 2), and look forward to the sequels now that they probably will get away from following the origin, which took a lot of energy out of Amazing.

I'm actually pretty torn.

I enjoyed Raimi's versions more at first viewing, but that was probably because...

A.) It was the 2nd big Marvel Movie at the time, so Spiderman was a little more impressive on screen.

B.) I was in my teens, so I probably was just more into it.

C.) And the obvious, Spiderman hadn't really been portrayed on the big screen at that point.

But if I were to watch it now, it would seem incredibly dated and probably a bit silly.

The reboot held it's own, but I'm not sure if I'm all that impressed with it, but probably for the inverse of the above reasons.

 

[Future]

Spider Man is probably the worst super hero there is. I hope the franchise just goes away lol

 

[Teren_Kanan]

Not a villain nor good guy but Deadpool needs a movie.

I was like the only kid in my circle of friends who loved Deadpool. Most of them didn't really even know who he was, but I had tons of comics.
I think Deadpool is one of the most interesting Super... People (Not really Evil or Good) in Marvel.

It'd be incredibly hard to pull off though on the big screen in live action though. To do his character any justice it couldn't be some hero movie where he saves the day for the sake of good, it'd have to be something like Him saving the day incidentally, while doing something else for money, or just 'cause he's bored. Actor would have to be pretty up to par. Playing a very mentally unstable, hilarious and crazy bad *** Ninja Assassin Mercenary For Hire who is nearly impossible to kill (Out heals wolverine by a lot), or totally impossible to kill (literally can not be killed by anything) depending on which comic series you go by, would be a difficult role to fill, and story to write. You'd totally have to let him break the 3rd wall sometimes too.


I thought maybe Ryan Renolds could pull it off.. but then the atrocity that is Xmen 3 happened.. but I'm still trying to forget that movie.

 

[PJTHEDOORS]

Unfortunately Sony owns the rights to the Spiderman movies, they only really made the recent "Amazing Spiderman" to keep the rights from returning to Marvel. Early on Sony made all the comic movies FF SM XM before Marvel had the resources to do them directly, like they do now with Iron Man the Avengers etc. I actually really like the Raimi/McGuire Spiderman movies, 3s not as good of course but still better than the new ASM.

Truth is I think I'm getting bored with comic book movies especially when they are churning out subpar ones for a money grab.

I preferred ASM over any movie with Kristen Dunst. The early spidey movies were overkill with her character.

 

[Nova]

Unfortunately Sony owns the rights to the Spiderman movies, they only really made the recent "Amazing Spiderman" to keep the rights from returning to Marvel. Early on Sony made all the comic movies FF SM XM before Marvel had the resources to do them directly, like they do now with Iron Man the Avengers etc. I actually really like the Raimi/McGuire Spiderman movies, 3s not as good of course but still better than the new ASM.

Truth is I think I'm getting bored with comic book movies especially when they are churning out subpar ones for a money grab.

It makes complete sense; I've heard of similar situations where a studio would have to surrender the rights to a franchise if they didn't produce a film within a certain time frame, but also that can't be the only reason they made the movie.

As I mentioned, there have been other situations where this has been the case, but those typically were not wide scale releases or even released at all... like this 1994 Fantastic 4 film.

This film was made with no real intention of release but instead to just retain the rights for Fantastic 4 and to bide time for the same producer went on to make the 2005 version.

 

[Kevinicus]

I was like the only kid in my circle of friends who loved Deadpool. Most of them didn't really even know who he was, but I had tons of comics.
I think Deadpool is one of the most interesting Super... People (Not really Evil or Good) in Marvel.

It'd be incredibly hard to pull off though on the big screen in live action though. To do his character any justice it couldn't be some hero movie where he saves the day for the sake of good, it'd have to be something like Him saving the day incidentally, while doing something else for money, or just 'cause he's bored. Actor would have to be pretty up to par. Playing a very mentally unstable, hilarious and crazy bad *** Ninja Assassin Mercenary For Hire who is nearly impossible to kill (Out heals wolverine by a lot), or totally impossible to kill (literally can not be killed by anything) depending on which comic series you go by, would be a difficult role to fill, and story to write. You'd totally have to let him break the 3rd wall sometimes too.


I thought maybe Ryan Renolds could pull it off.. but then the atrocity that is Xmen 3 happened.. but I'm still trying to forget that movie.

You mean Wolverine: Origins?