Switch to 3-4 just for Parsons

[RodeoJake]

Lol!!!
Just slide the 4-3 and keep him multiple....why handcuff him to one position.....not smart.

Do we even have the LBs for a 34 D?

 

[Flamma]

imagine how hard it is to just draft player and expect them to be a clone of Parsosn..sorry that doesn't happen often..

Probably not going to happen. It's hard enough drafting an impact player on defense, let alone a stand out.

 

[nate dizzle]

When he drops back there is almost zero pass rush

With Dlaw and Gregory coming back, that's going to change

 

[CATCH17]

Switches to 3/4.. Still plays Nickel 80% of the time because defenses match up with offenses and offenses all run 3 wide all game.

 

[blueblood70]

I still want another one.

want in one hand, poop in the other and see which one fills up first..lol

 

[CATCH17]

Micah Parsons needs to chase QBs.

Anything else is silly.

 

[Kolemmitt]

Sure. If this was 1995. The idea that we have to be all 3-4 or all 4-3 is very old school. Even teams that run base 3-4 normally go to a 4- front when in nickel, which is the majority of the plays.
With our hybrid scheme Parsons, Tank, Gregory, Osa, Gallimore, Hill are chess pieces that Quinn can move around and keep the offense guessing. So much better than just lining up in a traditional 3-4.

 

[Kolemmitt]

I really like Parsons. I'd like to draft another one next year to replace LVE.

Imagine the chaos and destruction two of them would cause.

The sad thing is that rookie LVE is very close to what we need. Obviously not Parson's level, buy how many of those are we going to get? But rookie LVE was pretty good too, and would be a nice fit in this D.

 

[HungryLion]

We don’t have to necessarily switch to a 3-4. He is already rushing the QB from a 2 point stance a lot in our current defense.

Defenses are hardly ever in base defense.


With the modern NFL. 3-4/4-3 is almost a misnomer anyway.


If you put 3 of our current DL in a 3 point stance. And have parsons rushing off the edge in a 2 point stance. It’s technically a “3 man” line but the effect is the same.

doesn’t matter.


Yes you use parsons to attack the line of scrimmage and rush the QB regularly. But whether you call him a linebacker or a DE doesn’t really matter. It’s just technicalities.



All that being said. Yes you build your defense around him. He is the keystone player. He is the cornerstone of the defense. You put guys around him that compliment his skill set.

 

[MoistMayonnaise]

If you rush Parsons every down it takes away the element of surprise. He wouldn't be nearly as successful.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Switches to 3/4.. Still plays Nickel 80% of the time because defenses match up with offenses and offenses all run 3 wide all game.

Which is exactly why the whole 4-3/3-4 thing is over rated

A few *all time* great defenses used a pass rusher at OLB

2000 Ravens ran a defense that looked like this

RDE: Michael McCray
DT: Sam Adams
DT: Tony Siragusa
LDE: Rob Burnett
ROLB: Jamie Sharper
MLB: Ray Lewis
LOLB: Peter Boulware (DE at Florida State)

The 2007 Giants ran a defense that looked like this

RDE: Osi Umenyiora
DT: Fred Robbins
DT: Barry Cofield
LDE: Michael Strahan
ROLB: Kawika Mitchell
MLB: Antonio Pierce
LOLB: Mathias Kiwanuka (DE at Boston College)

And the 2013 Seahawks ran a defense that looked like this

RDE: Chris Clemons
DT: Tony McDaniel
DT: Brandon Mebane
LDE: Red Bryant
ROLB: KJ Wright
MLB: Bobby Wagner
LOLB: Bruce Irvin (DE at West Virginia)

There’s no reason to switch, we can play him at LB and still have him rush the passer the vast majority of times

 

[CATCH17]

Which is exactly why the whole 4-3/3-4 thing is over rated

A few *all time* great defenses used a pass rusher at OLB

2000 Ravens ran a defense that looked like this

RDE: Michael McCray
DT: Sam Adams
DT: Tony Siragusa
LDE: Rob Burnett
ROLB: Jamie Sharper
MLB: Ray Lewis
LOLB: Peter Boulware (DE at Florida State)

The 2007 Giants ran a defense that looked like this

RDE: Osi Umenyiora
DT: Fred Robbins
DT: Barry Cofield
LDE: Michael Strahan
ROLB: Kawika Mitchell
MLB: Antonio Pierce
LOLB: Mathias Kiwanuka (DE at Boston College)

And the 2013 Seahawks ran a defense that looked like this

RDE: Chris Clemons
DT: Tony McDaniel
DT: Brandon Mebane
LDE: Red Bryant
ROLB: KJ Wright
MLB: Bobby Wagner
LOLB: Bruce Irvin (DE at West Virginia)

There’s no reason to switch, we can play him at LB and still have him rush the passer the vast majority of times

Just let Dan Quinn work. The guy has been nothing short of phenomenal for us.


The only time I’m going to complain about Quinn is when he has Micah Parsons not chasing QBs.

 

[lk8701]

Parsons as a full-time edge rusher will wear him down. He is a playmaker at LB too...a sack isn't the only way to make a big play. If you thought last night was great, he actually played most of the game at LB. He is too good all-around. Making him rush the passer every snap would be a waste of his overall ability. He is still a big threat to get sacks in his current hybrid role while also being a force as a LB too

I wish they drafted JOK instead of Kelvin Jospeh.

 

[lk8701]

disagree and even parsons disagrees hes been asked that in interviews. move him around same as usual.

NOT not if you dont have the rest of the pieces and Gregory and Tank are not 3-4 wide 9 or stand up types. Its why Nolan failed last year tried that would back off it until too late, I get MP is here now we have some new players but you have to have more then one player that fits a scheme..hes doing well enough in the 4-3

why change it?

odd fan thoughts and all wildly off base..let the coaches figure that out..MP can be as successful as 4-3 roving LB and pass rushing specialist as part time DE..

no need to change the defense..

I agree. Von Miller has been successful in a 4-3 and 3-4 defense.

 

[lk8701]

imagine how hard it is to just draft a player and expect them to be a clone of Parsons. Sorry that doesn't happen often..

It's like expecting to draft a clone of LeBron James.

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Parsons needs to be on that D line….all the time…

HUGE difference when he’s not up at the line wrecking havoc..

I have poundered that about a month ago....but we don't have the personnel to run a 3-4....Osa can play DE on a 3-4. Lawrence maybe able to do, but a bit undersized. Can gallimore play the other DE? or NT? can hill play NT along with Watkins. and we don't have enough LBs to pull of a 3-4....losing Cox hurt a lot more than we think....and plus he is losing on learning.

but for now, Parsons is the wild card. Quinn has his Chess Queen (no pun intended) and he can move him around and create havoc. we can run a 4-3, with a 3-4 front look, shift a lot and pressure the OL...getting gregory and lawrence back is going to really elevate this front 7 and open up Quinn's hand

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I like how he's being used now. Very difficult for the offense to plan around him because they never know where he's going to line up.

 

[MichiganCowboyFan]

The Cowboys use a hybrid 3-4 now. Parsons stands up when the Cowboys rush him off the edge. That's why you see Carlos Watkins, Osa Odighizuwa, and Chauncey Golston lining up both inside and outside. The goal is to move Parsons around and make offenses account for him every single snap.

But the main thing is you need to account for Parsons, Osa/Gallimore, Tank, and Gregory to all play together and rush, with probably a big guy like Watkins in the middle over the nose of the center on standard/base downs.

You don't want either of Parsons, Tank or Gregory on the bench or dropping into coverage on 3rd and 5+.

 

[xwalker]

Parsons needs to be on that D line….all the time…

HUGE difference when he’s not up at the line wrecking havoc..

They play Nickel, Big Nickel or Dime on the vast majority of snaps.

It is not possible to play Nickel in a 3-4.

The 3-4 is a run stopping defense.
- When a 3-4 team plays Nickel they remove the 320+ NT and bring in the Nickel Back.
- When a 4-3 team plays Nickel they remove the 240ish SLB and bring in the Nickel Back.
- i.e. The primary player difference between 3-4 and 4-3 is having a 320 pound NT or a 240 pound LB as the 11th player.

When the Cowboys do play 'base' (i.e. non Nickel/Dime), Parsons is up on the line.
- You could call that a 4-3 or a 3-4. It 'looks' like a 3-4 because the DE on the other side is normally standing up.
- However, it really depends on the alignment and specific 3 players on the DL between Parsons and the DE on the opposite side.
- If those 3 players are 300+ then it's likely a 3-4 alignment.
- If those 3 players are Armstrong, Odighi, and Hill, then it's more of a 4-3.

 

[Whirlwin]

Parsons needs to be on that D line….all the time…

HUGE difference when he’s not up at the line wrecking havoc..

Lawrence. And Gregory will make a huge difference. Let him float like he’s doing