Taking a step back

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Are we desperate for a QB?
No; we have a starter in Romo for at least 2-3 years. We do need a developmental QB, which means not a high priority this year nor a high draft pick.

Are we desperate for a WR?
No; unless we take a wr really high (Treadwell drops to 34), there's no one in this draft who will start, and we're going to be looking very closely at Butler this year.

Are we desperate for a RB?
No; we have a guy who rushed for 1,000 yards last year with no pass threat whatsoever and QB's who couldn't read a defense for squat to get into better run plays; we have two RB's who are good in the pass game; we now have a grinder who's still young and has had big years in the NFL behind a suspect OL, an excellent short yardage/goal line guy. We need youth---we need a Prosise or Perkins in round 4; Elliott only becomes a Cowboy if he's the best player on the board by far in round 1, and as an all-around back, he makes all three other backs irrelevant as he probably plays all those roles as well or better than they do...a waste of money and roster.

Are we desperate for a TE?
No; not desperate, but I have no doubt we'll be scouring the waiver wires and latter rounds of the draft in search for a blocking TE. Last year, we missed playing OT Parnell at TE more than we would have imagined.

Are we desperate for DT?
No, not unless Crawford is moving out to DE. If he's healthy, we have two of the best starting DTs in some time in Crawford and Thornton; we also have quite a few rotational guys, including McClain/Irvin, and the draft is very deep here. It is very likely that Dallas adds a DT in the draft simply due to the depth at the position, but where will a high draft pick play; which big contract guy will he push to the background?

Are we desperate for DE?
It appears we are desperate for exactly 4 games; everything else is a guess as to whether the suspended players are habitual screw-ups or not. After game 4, which DE in the draft will push Demarcus Lawrence to the bench? Which rookie will push Gregory or Mayowa to the bench? Probably more than any other position above, DE is a need right now for the first 4 games, but can both Crawfords, Mayowa, Irvin, Russell and others hold down the fort until DLaw and Gregory return. It seems certain that Dallas will select a DE in round 1 or 2; definitely no later than 3 as the position needs more support if not an immediate starter.

Are we desperate for LB?
No; this is likely to be only a mid to late round selection. No one is pushing McClain or Lee to the bench this year; no one is worthy of a high selection to play SLB; we have invested in two LBs the past two drafts and a couple more in free agency last year. At most, we may be looking for one of the highly productive but unspectacular measurable guys in the mid-rounds who could prove to be a guy that can replace McClain in the future.

Are we desperate in the secondary?
Absolutely. No, you don't win championships with stars in the secondary, and we've shown that high draft picks and big money free agents don't necessarily solve the problem. However, we've also proven that you can't just run scrubs out there and be successful. We have one aging CB returning from serious injury, a small guy who is more suited to inside than outside in today's NFL. The other guys have under-performed in a huge way and will both be without a contract after this year. We have a bunch of safeties, none of whom are worth much, none of whom can make up for suspect CB play. WE have one 2nd year player who proved he can play CB or S better than his teammates. In the new NFL, the flexibility of being a hybrid is no longer considered a guy without a position, but a guy who is highly valuable. When the CB position suffers from poor play or injury, he can plug and play; when the CB play is adequate, he can make them all look better from the safety position.
Must we draft Ramsey at #4? No, but we are in desperate need of upgrades and replacements all over the secondary, and CB/S will be addressed in the first 3-4 rounds...no doubt.

How does this impact our selection at #4? If a player at a position of lower need is clearly so much better than the player at a position of need, anyone with a brain will agree that you take that player, RB, DL, WR even. The only exception is OT...you don't take that guy because you can't afford to pay a RT LT money, and it only means that you're going to be forced to let a Pro-Bowl OL walk at some point.

However, if players are at all closely bunched at #4 or even at another position after a trade down in round one, it seems we must look to the DE and Secondary position players first.

If Elliott is rated significantly higher as a RB than Ramsey is rated as a DB, then you take the RB. If not, the difference between Elliott vs McFadden/Morris/Dunbar/rookie is no where near as significant as the difference between Ramsey vs Church, Wilcox, Clayborne, Carr, Scandrick.

Only a few hours till we see what the Cowboys are thinking about this season, but more importantly about the future of the team.
 

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Are we desperate for a QB?
No; we have a starter in Romo for at least 2-3 years. We do need a developmental QB, which means not a high priority this year nor a high draft pick.

Are we desperate for a WR?
No; unless we take a wr really high (Treadwell drops to 34), there's no one in this draft who will start, and we're going to be looking very closely at Butler this year.

Are we desperate for a RB?
No; we have a guy who rushed for 1,000 yards last year with no pass threat whatsoever and QB's who couldn't read a defense for squat to get into better run plays; we have two RB's who are good in the pass game; we now have a grinder who's still young and has had big years in the NFL behind a suspect OL, an excellent short yardage/goal line guy. We need youth---we need a Prosise or Perkins in round 4; Elliott only becomes a Cowboy if he's the best player on the board by far in round 1, and as an all-around back, he makes all three other backs irrelevant as he probably plays all those roles as well or better than they do...a waste of money and roster.

Are we desperate for a TE?
No; not desperate, but I have no doubt we'll be scouring the waiver wires and latter rounds of the draft in search for a blocking TE. Last year, we missed playing OT Parnell at TE more than we would have imagined.

Are we desperate for DT?
No, not unless Crawford is moving out to DE. If he's healthy, we have two of the best starting DTs in some time in Crawford and Thornton; we also have quite a few rotational guys, including McClain/Irvin, and the draft is very deep here. It is very likely that Dallas adds a DT in the draft simply due to the depth at the position, but where will a high draft pick play; which big contract guy will he push to the background?

Are we desperate for DE?
It appears we are desperate for exactly 4 games; everything else is a guess as to whether the suspended players are habitual screw-ups or not. After game 4, which DE in the draft will push Demarcus Lawrence to the bench? Which rookie will push Gregory or Mayowa to the bench? Probably more than any other position above, DE is a need right now for the first 4 games, but can both Crawfords, Mayowa, Irvin, Russell and others hold down the fort until DLaw and Gregory return. It seems certain that Dallas will select a DE in round 1 or 2; definitely no later than 3 as the position needs more support if not an immediate starter.

Are we desperate for LB?
No; this is likely to be only a mid to late round selection. No one is pushing McClain or Lee to the bench this year; no one is worthy of a high selection to play SLB; we have invested in two LBs the past two drafts and a couple more in free agency last year. At most, we may be looking for one of the highly productive but unspectacular measurable guys in the mid-rounds who could prove to be a guy that can replace McClain in the future.

Are we desperate in the secondary?
Absolutely. No, you don't win championships with stars in the secondary, and we've shown that high draft picks and big money free agents don't necessarily solve the problem. However, we've also proven that you can't just run scrubs out there and be successful. We have one aging CB returning from serious injury, a small guy who is more suited to inside than outside in today's NFL. The other guys have under-performed in a huge way and will both be without a contract after this year. We have a bunch of safeties, none of whom are worth much, none of whom can make up for suspect CB play. WE have one 2nd year player who proved he can play CB or S better than his teammates. In the new NFL, the flexibility of being a hybrid is no longer considered a guy without a position, but a guy who is highly valuable. When the CB position suffers from poor play or injury, he can plug and play; when the CB play is adequate, he can make them all look better from the safety position.
Must we draft Ramsey at #4? No, but we are in desperate need of upgrades and replacements all over the secondary, and CB/S will be addressed in the first 3-4 rounds...no doubt.

How does this impact our selection at #4? If a player at a position of lower need is clearly so much better than the player at a position of need, anyone with a brain will agree that you take that player, RB, DL, WR even. The only exception is OT...you don't take that guy because you can't afford to pay a RT LT money, and it only means that you're going to be forced to let a Pro-Bowl OL walk at some point.

However, if players are at all closely bunched at #4 or even at another position after a trade down in round one, it seems we must look to the DE and Secondary position players first.

If Elliott is rated significantly higher as a RB than Ramsey is rated as a DB, then you take the RB. If not, the difference between Elliott vs McFadden/Morris/Dunbar/rookie is no where near as significant as the difference between Ramsey vs Church, Wilcox, Clayborne, Carr, Scandrick.

Only a few hours till we see what the Cowboys are thinking about this season, but more importantly about the future of the team.


zach mettenberger.. I have a feeling this guy is going to be traded, id rather have him over Cook or Hackenbury
 

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Are we desperate for a QB?
No; we have a starter in Romo for at least 2-3 years. We do need a developmental QB, which means not a high priority this year nor a high draft pick.

Are we desperate for a WR?
No; unless we take a wr really high (Treadwell drops to 34), there's no one in this draft who will start, and we're going to be looking very closely at Butler this year.

Are we desperate for a RB?
No; we have a guy who rushed for 1,000 yards last year with no pass threat whatsoever and QB's who couldn't read a defense for squat to get into better run plays; we have two RB's who are good in the pass game; we now have a grinder who's still young and has had big years in the NFL behind a suspect OL, an excellent short yardage/goal line guy. We need youth---we need a Prosise or Perkins in round 4; Elliott only becomes a Cowboy if he's the best player on the board by far in round 1, and as an all-around back, he makes all three other backs irrelevant as he probably plays all those roles as well or better than they do...a waste of money and roster.

Are we desperate for a TE?
No; not desperate, but I have no doubt we'll be scouring the waiver wires and latter rounds of the draft in search for a blocking TE. Last year, we missed playing OT Parnell at TE more than we would have imagined.

Are we desperate for DT?
No, not unless Crawford is moving out to DE. If he's healthy, we have two of the best starting DTs in some time in Crawford and Thornton; we also have quite a few rotational guys, including McClain/Irvin, and the draft is very deep here. It is very likely that Dallas adds a DT in the draft simply due to the depth at the position, but where will a high draft pick play; which big contract guy will he push to the background?

Are we desperate for DE?
It appears we are desperate for exactly 4 games; everything else is a guess as to whether the suspended players are habitual screw-ups or not. After game 4, which DE in the draft will push Demarcus Lawrence to the bench? Which rookie will push Gregory or Mayowa to the bench? Probably more than any other position above, DE is a need right now for the first 4 games, but can both Crawfords, Mayowa, Irvin, Russell and others hold down the fort until DLaw and Gregory return. It seems certain that Dallas will select a DE in round 1 or 2; definitely no later than 3 as the position needs more support if not an immediate starter.

Are we desperate for LB?
No; this is likely to be only a mid to late round selection. No one is pushing McClain or Lee to the bench this year; no one is worthy of a high selection to play SLB; we have invested in two LBs the past two drafts and a couple more in free agency last year. At most, we may be looking for one of the highly productive but unspectacular measurable guys in the mid-rounds who could prove to be a guy that can replace McClain in the future.

Are we desperate in the secondary?
Absolutely. No, you don't win championships with stars in the secondary, and we've shown that high draft picks and big money free agents don't necessarily solve the problem. However, we've also proven that you can't just run scrubs out there and be successful. We have one aging CB returning from serious injury, a small guy who is more suited to inside than outside in today's NFL. The other guys have under-performed in a huge way and will both be without a contract after this year. We have a bunch of safeties, none of whom are worth much, none of whom can make up for suspect CB play. WE have one 2nd year player who proved he can play CB or S better than his teammates. In the new NFL, the flexibility of being a hybrid is no longer considered a guy without a position, but a guy who is highly valuable. When the CB position suffers from poor play or injury, he can plug and play; when the CB play is adequate, he can make them all look better from the safety position.
Must we draft Ramsey at #4? No, but we are in desperate need of upgrades and replacements all over the secondary, and CB/S will be addressed in the first 3-4 rounds...no doubt.

How does this impact our selection at #4? If a player at a position of lower need is clearly so much better than the player at a position of need, anyone with a brain will agree that you take that player, RB, DL, WR even. The only exception is OT...you don't take that guy because you can't afford to pay a RT LT money, and it only means that you're going to be forced to let a Pro-Bowl OL walk at some point.

However, if players are at all closely bunched at #4 or even at another position after a trade down in round one, it seems we must look to the DE and Secondary position players first.

If Elliott is rated significantly higher as a RB than Ramsey is rated as a DB, then you take the RB. If not, the difference between Elliott vs McFadden/Morris/Dunbar/rookie is no where near as significant as the difference between Ramsey vs Church, Wilcox, Clayborne, Carr, Scandrick.

Only a few hours till we see what the Cowboys are thinking about this season, but more importantly about the future of the team.

Good write up. Well done.

I disagree that we're not desperate for DLine help though. I think we definitely are, especially with Gregory already showing that he's likely to be a career moron.

I do agree we need secondary help as well, without question.

I think we need help all over the defense though including linebacker.
 

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Yeah I'd agree that DL, even specifically DE, is still a pretty big need.
 

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Are we desperate for a QB?
No; we have a starter in Romo for at least 2-3 years. We do need a developmental QB, which means not a high priority this year nor a high draft pick.

Are we desperate for a WR?
No; unless we take a wr really high (Treadwell drops to 34), there's no one in this draft who will start, and we're going to be looking very closely at Butler this year.

Are we desperate for a RB?
No; we have a guy who rushed for 1,000 yards last year with no pass threat whatsoever and QB's who couldn't read a defense for squat to get into better run plays; we have two RB's who are good in the pass game; we now have a grinder who's still young and has had big years in the NFL behind a suspect OL, an excellent short yardage/goal line guy. We need youth---we need a Prosise or Perkins in round 4; Elliott only becomes a Cowboy if he's the best player on the board by far in round 1, and as an all-around back, he makes all three other backs irrelevant as he probably plays all those roles as well or better than they do...a waste of money and roster.

Are we desperate for a TE?
No; not desperate, but I have no doubt we'll be scouring the waiver wires and latter rounds of the draft in search for a blocking TE. Last year, we missed playing OT Parnell at TE more than we would have imagined.

Are we desperate for DT?
No, not unless Crawford is moving out to DE. If he's healthy, we have two of the best starting DTs in some time in Crawford and Thornton; we also have quite a few rotational guys, including McClain/Irvin, and the draft is very deep here. It is very likely that Dallas adds a DT in the draft simply due to the depth at the position, but where will a high draft pick play; which big contract guy will he push to the background?

Are we desperate for DE?
It appears we are desperate for exactly 4 games; everything else is a guess as to whether the suspended players are habitual screw-ups or not. After game 4, which DE in the draft will push Demarcus Lawrence to the bench? Which rookie will push Gregory or Mayowa to the bench? Probably more than any other position above, DE is a need right now for the first 4 games, but can both Crawfords, Mayowa, Irvin, Russell and others hold down the fort until DLaw and Gregory return. It seems certain that Dallas will select a DE in round 1 or 2; definitely no later than 3 as the position needs more support if not an immediate starter.

Are we desperate for LB?
No; this is likely to be only a mid to late round selection. No one is pushing McClain or Lee to the bench this year; no one is worthy of a high selection to play SLB; we have invested in two LBs the past two drafts and a couple more in free agency last year. At most, we may be looking for one of the highly productive but unspectacular measurable guys in the mid-rounds who could prove to be a guy that can replace McClain in the future.

Are we desperate in the secondary?
Absolutely. No, you don't win championships with stars in the secondary, and we've shown that high draft picks and big money free agents don't necessarily solve the problem. However, we've also proven that you can't just run scrubs out there and be successful. We have one aging CB returning from serious injury, a small guy who is more suited to inside than outside in today's NFL. The other guys have under-performed in a huge way and will both be without a contract after this year. We have a bunch of safeties, none of whom are worth much, none of whom can make up for suspect CB play. WE have one 2nd year player who proved he can play CB or S better than his teammates. In the new NFL, the flexibility of being a hybrid is no longer considered a guy without a position, but a guy who is highly valuable. When the CB position suffers from poor play or injury, he can plug and play; when the CB play is adequate, he can make them all look better from the safety position.
Must we draft Ramsey at #4? No, but we are in desperate need of upgrades and replacements all over the secondary, and CB/S will be addressed in the first 3-4 rounds...no doubt.

How does this impact our selection at #4? If a player at a position of lower need is clearly so much better than the player at a position of need, anyone with a brain will agree that you take that player, RB, DL, WR even. The only exception is OT...you don't take that guy because you can't afford to pay a RT LT money, and it only means that you're going to be forced to let a Pro-Bowl OL walk at some point.

However, if players are at all closely bunched at #4 or even at another position after a trade down in round one, it seems we must look to the DE and Secondary position players first.

If Elliott is rated significantly higher as a RB than Ramsey is rated as a DB, then you take the RB. If not, the difference between Elliott vs McFadden/Morris/Dunbar/rookie is no where near as significant as the difference between Ramsey vs Church, Wilcox, Clayborne, Carr, Scandrick.

Only a few hours till we see what the Cowboys are thinking about this season, but more importantly about the future of the team.

Well thought out and all valid points.
I will add my opinion or thoughts. While it's true that we are more in need of secondary help I believe we should look at comparing Elliott at RB vs Ramsey at CB. As a safety then you have to have concerns that we already spent a first last year on B jones who seems to be best at FS and is a FS worth the #4 pick in the draft. There seems to be some good Free safeties we can pick up round 2.

I would say we need the best player available if we project Ramsey as a great CB.
I don't have concerns over Ramsey being great...I have concerns over us forcing him into a position that he can't be great based on need to where we drafted him.
 

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this team needs impact play making players at any positions other than tony carrying the team.
 

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Sounds like their PC, in position to take whatever player is BPA on the board.
 

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We were DEAD LAST in takeaways

Jalen Ramsey come on down

Jalen Ramsey will be a bust. All this hype is over one game against a weak Miami Hurricane team. Morris Claiborne all over again.

If we had a quality defensive rush, we wouldn't be dead last in takeaways because the opposing QB's would be rushing on their reads resulting in "Takeaways".
 

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I assume this is a next year view, I believe the answers would be significantly different if we use a view that is 2-3 years out view.

This is what the draft is for, building a team for now and the future.

How would you answer those question if that was the view you where taking?

How long can Witten perform?
What if Romo's healthy continues to be problem and at best he has 2 -3 years?
Carr And Claiborne could be gone after this year, what if they are or you don't want to give them the $'s?
Twill do you resign him, is he good enough?
R. Mclain is he the answer over the next couple of years?
How long can Lee stay healthy?
Who is our SOLB?
Chruch/Wilcox?
Gregory can you count on him?

I think we need to look at the draft not only for next year but through the lens of a lot of questions.
 

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This team is desperate for defensive play-makers. Oddly enough, Bosa seems to fit the bill with his ability to stop the run and rush the passer.

I would still like to see what they can do with Ramsey, though.
 

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Well thought out and all valid points.
I will add my opinion or thoughts. While it's true that we are more in need of secondary help I believe we should look at comparing Elliott at RB vs Ramsey at CB. As a safety then you have to have concerns that we already spent a first last year on B jones who seems to be best at FS and is a FS worth the #4 pick in the draft. There seems to be some good Free safeties we can pick up round 2.

I would say we need the best player available if we project Ramsey as a great CB.
I don't have concerns over Ramsey being great...I have concerns over us forcing him into a position that he can't be great based on need to where we drafted him.

I agree, but I disagree with other fans who claim he's not worth #4 if he's a great Safety. Would we think #4 was worth it for Earl Thomas or Eric Berry or the reincarnation of Darren Woodson? A safety who is fast, instinctive, physical, smart, and a guy who can lock up with a receiver in coverage and who might be a great CB too....I don't see the negative side. This isn't a slow footed CB who's best position may be to end up at Safety. He's the #1 CB on the board, and he'd be the #1 safety on the board as well. If we value someone else more, I'm fine with that, but if he's a big time player, I don't care whether he ends up at CB or S or both.
 

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Jalen Ramsey will be a bust. All this hype is over one game against a weak Miami Hurricane team. Morris Claiborne all over again.

If we had a quality defensive rush, we wouldn't be dead last in takeaways because the opposing QB's would be rushing on their reads resulting in "Takeaways".

Don't be foolish....it's one thing to say he may not be a CB or he may not be an all pro, but Bust? That's really weak.
 
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