Talent vs Preparation, My Thoughts

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So we have a large enough sized sample pool to begin shaping some thoughts and understandings. I'm just going to keep this on a holistic level and spare you my deep feelings about certain individual moves. From the people perspective, we have the talent on this team to compete! From 1 to 53 the talent is there. It really is! I would also add that it's a 60/40 split in terms of talent with 60% resting on the defensive side of the ball.

We have watched our beloved Boys struggle through 9 weeks of arriving to games on totally different pages of a variety of different books. We have gone into every game ill prepared to compete on a level that equates to winning football. Save a few spots here there, we should not have to totally blow this team up in the off-season. We obviously have some spots that can use an infusion of new talent (2nd & 3rd WR, SS, MLB, backup TE, CB, backup QB, RB) but fielding a better prepared team that approaches every game from the same sheet of paper would be an incredible step in the right direction.

One thing I noticed (& this is just my assumption/POV) is that our players seem to believe their own hype. It's almost as if they read all of the good things said about them in their bios and believe they don't need to prepare as hard as they once did when they were fighting just to get to the NFL. There's something to be said for skillfully knocking these millionaires down a notch to help them understand that they do indeed need to work harder today to stay where they are. Nothing is guaranteed. Whether that's infusing more competition at those key positions or taking a more direct approach from the perspective of game prep, they need to be made to understand the importance of playing as if your paycheck depended on it. Stop coddling these players. 20 years of observation as a fan has shown me that coddling gets you nowhere. These are grown men. Treat them as such and redirect their thoughts towards one thing only. Winning.

Our Boys have made a living playing to the level of their competition. You never get the consistently high level of play that produces the occasional blowout which, in turn, allows you to rest key players. We need another infusion of young talent in the off-season and, most importantly, the factors in place that will create a motivated group of 53 who will go out there and die for each other. It's one thing to know that your fellow man will lay it on the line for you but the real beauty comes from the trust of knowing that if you go down the next man knows your position so well that the change appears transparent. We need to get there. We're not there right now. Lack of trust appears to be a problem. It's less about the players and more about working hard in the off-season to field 53 men who eat, sleep, & breath from the same sheet of music. We have some incredibly talented players on this team (mostly on defense)... Give them the type of preparatory environment that inspires confidence on game day and kick their butts every single week. Not just physically.... but mentally as well!
 

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I agree with most of what you said, but more talent on defense? I'm not seeing that, man.
 

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honest its such a skewed year with QB & WR missing extended periods of time. What Dallas needs to do is use this year as opportunity to add high draft pick ontop of what looks like very good draft in '15. Now if Romo comes back next year and plays most of year and team still looks like this. Then I can start buying into idea of lack of preparation, lack of talent, etc. Until then its just elevator music to me.
 

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I agree with most of what you said, but more talent on defense? I'm not seeing that, man.

It's there. The DL, LBs & FS are all in good shape. With Scandrick back, we just need another solid corner. Get Wilcox out of the starting lineup and get those guys all operating to the same sheet of music. The talent is there.
 

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honest its such a skewed year with QB & WR missing extended periods of time. What Dallas needs to do is use this year as opportunity to add high draft pick ontop of what looks like very good draft in '15. Now if Romo comes back next year and plays most of year and team still looks like this. Then I can start buying into idea of lack of preparation, lack of talent, etc. Until then its just elevator music to me.

We really need to get away from hanging all of our hats on Romo. That's kinda what got us where we are today.
 

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One thing I noticed (& this is just my assumption/POV) is that our players seem to believe their own hype.

Our fans believe their own hype too. I've never seen a group so afraid to admit their faults. In our fluke excellent 12-4 season last year, a majority of our wins were ugly. We kept bad teams in games they shouldn't have been in and needed some last minute magic to win. Some people complained but most fans didn't want to hear it. "We won. Quit your whining." But those ugly wins comes back to bite you in the playoffs when you play other good teams. It bit us in our other good season during the Romo era. It almost bit us in the first round against the Lions last year. Then we come into this season and we start off very weak. Needed a mental blunder to luck out a win against the Giants in the opener. But we won so quit your whining. Then we looked pathetic offensively against the Eagles. But we won. Then 7 straight losses but Romo is coming back so it's all good. Then an ugly win against the Dolphins but still a win. Then a pathetic performance against the Panthers but Romo looked hurt. Then he goes down again. But a win against the Skins so there's still hope. Now let's talk about hypotheticals about how we would've won this historically bad division if Romo never got hurt and let's get offended any time anyone says we'd still be a bad team even with Romo. If you wanna set your bar low, go head. This team has been bad for a long time. If you need your elite QB to stay healthy 16 games to go 8-8, then you have big problems.
 

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So we have a large enough sized sample pool to begin shaping some thoughts and understandings. I'm just going to keep this on a holistic level and spare you my deep feelings about certain individual moves. From the people perspective, we have the talent on this team to compete! From 1 to 53 the talent is there. It really is! I would also add that it's a 60/40 split in terms of talent with 60% resting on the defensive side of the ball.

We have watched our beloved Boys struggle through 9 weeks of arriving to games on totally different pages of a variety of different books. We have gone into every game ill prepared to compete on a level that equates to winning football. Save a few spots here there, we should not have to totally blow this team up in the off-season. We obviously have some spots that can use an infusion of new talent (2nd & 3rd WR, SS, MLB, backup TE, CB, backup QB, RB) but fielding a better prepared team that approaches every game from the same sheet of paper would be an incredible step in the right direction.

One thing I noticed (& this is just my assumption/POV) is that our players seem to believe their own hype. It's almost as if they read all of the good things said about them in their bios and believe they don't need to prepare as hard as they once did when they were fighting just to get to the NFL. There's something to be said for skillfully knocking these millionaires down a notch to help them understand that they do indeed need to work harder today to stay where they are. Nothing is guaranteed. Whether that's infusing more competition at those key positions or taking a more direct approach from the perspective of game prep, they need to be made to understand the importance of playing as if your paycheck depended on it. Stop coddling these players. 20 years of observation as a fan has shown me that coddling gets you nowhere. These are grown men. Treat them as such and redirect their thoughts towards one thing only. Winning.

Our Boys have made a living playing to the level of their competition. You never get the consistently high level of play that produces the occasional blowout which, in turn, allows you to rest key players. We need another infusion of young talent in the off-season and, most importantly, the factors in place that will create a motivated group of 53 who will go out there and die for each other. It's one thing to know that your fellow man will lay it on the line for you but the real beauty comes from the trust of knowing that if you go down the next man knows your position so well that the change appears transparent. We need to get there. We're not there right now. Lack of trust appears to be a problem. It's less about the players and more about working hard in the off-season to field 53 men who eat, sleep, & breath from the same sheet of music. We have some incredibly talented players on this team (mostly on defense)... Give them the type of preparatory environment that inspires confidence on game day and kick their butts every single week. Not just physically.... but mentally as well!

This season was lost back during pre-season. If you remember that the 1st string OL did not play together until the first game of the regular season. The running back situation is well known, and Des not getting any practice during training camp. All these things have now shown there ugly head in the Offense. Your assessment of preparation and repetition is very, very true and the coaching staff are the ones who should be held accountable for the lack of these for this season.
 

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I think the main problem, especially with the offense, is that Garrett has a system which relies on players winning their one on one matchups more than creativity or deception.

You can do that if you have superior talent than everybody else, however when you play teams that have equal or better talent you cannot compete. Hence, that is why our record this year against the playoff caliber teams is so bad and a lot of those games were over by halftime.

Now you can attribute that to no Romo, but like Aikman and Jerry both have said, you cant blame a 4-9 record on just Romo being out.
 

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It's there. The DL, LBs & FS are all in good shape. With Scandrick back, we just need another solid corner. Get Wilcox out of the starting lineup and get those guys all operating to the same sheet of music. The talent is there.

Can't really blame the players for believing in their own hype can we? The reason for that is there is no accountability. When all you get from the coach is the same rah, rah speech and backslaps even though were losing, of course players will think they are better than what they really are.

This team needs a coach that is not afraid to make EVERYONE accountable. If Bryant runs a lazy route or drops a pass I want to see Garrett chewing him a new one. Garrett should also have yelled at Romo for throwing INTs against Carolina. But he didn't. All he does is cheer his players on and give them buttslaps all day long.

This team does have talent. But they need a coach that brings fear to the playes to the point that they are afraid of consequences if they mess up. That will keep them productive and motivated.

They don't need a cheerleader.
 

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It's there. The DL, LBs & FS are all in good shape. With Scandrick back, we just need another solid corner. Get Wilcox out of the starting lineup and get those guys all operating to the same sheet of music. The talent is there.

I'm not saying we don't have talent on D but the offense has more high quality talent overall than the defense if you go player by player IMO.
 

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Can't really blame the players for believing in their own hype can we? The reason for that is there is no accountability. When all you get from the coach is the same rah, rah speech and backslaps even though were losing, of course players will think they are better than what they really are.

This team needs a coach that is not afraid to make EVERYONE accountable. If Bryant runs a lazy route or drops a pass I want to see Garrett chewing him a new one. Garrett should also have yelled at Romo for throwing INTs against Carolina. But he didn't. All he does is cheer his players on and give them buttslaps all day long.

This team does have talent. But they need a coach that brings fear to the playes to the point that they are afraid of consequences if they mess up. That will keep them productive and motivated.

They don't need a cheerleader.
Well. We all know Garrett isn't going anywhere so it'll be interesting. But yes. We're squarely on the same page. There is no accountability.
 

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I think the main problem, especially with the offense, is that Garrett has a system which relies on players winning their one on one matchups more than creativity or deception.

You can do that if you have superior talent than everybody else, however when you play teams that have equal or better talent you cannot compete. Hence, that is why our record this year against the playoff caliber teams is so bad and a lot of those games were over by halftime.

Now you can attribute that to no Romo, but like Aikman and Jerry both have said, you cant blame a 4-9 record on just Romo being out.

Exactly. We rely on brute strength and winning the one on one battles instead of preparing our players to play a brand of football that allows them to regularly catch the other team off guard. That's coordinators bro. Linehan has been exposed.
 

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Our fans believe their own hype too. I've never seen a group so afraid to admit their faults. In our fluke excellent 12-4 season last year, a majority of our wins were ugly. We kept bad teams in games they shouldn't have been in and needed some last minute magic to win. Some people complained but most fans didn't want to hear it. "We won. Quit your whining." But those ugly wins comes back to bite you in the playoffs when you play other good teams. It bit us in our other good season during the Romo era. It almost bit us in the first round against the Lions last year. Then we come into this season and we start off very weak. Needed a mental blunder to luck out a win against the Giants in the opener. But we won so quit your whining. Then we looked pathetic offensively against the Eagles. But we won. Then 7 straight losses but Romo is coming back so it's all good. Then an ugly win against the Dolphins but still a win. Then a pathetic performance against the Panthers but Romo looked hurt. Then he goes down again. But a win against the Skins so there's still hope. Now let's talk about hypotheticals about how we would've won this historically bad division if Romo never got hurt and let's get offended any time anyone says we'd still be a bad team even with Romo. If you wanna set your bar low, go head. This team has been bad for a long time. If you need your elite QB to stay healthy 16 games to go 8-8, then you have big problems.

Bravoooooo! I know my fellow fans will defend our Boys til the bitter end and I also know I can sometimes spew a little too much "reality" when the state of things gets too bad but yeah. I believe our fellow fans are now seeing more than ever how complex our problems actually are. Reality is smacking many of us in the face. What we need is for reality to smack the organization's leadership in the face. I believe that's happening. Losing 9 games without Romo, in a strangely good way, is exposing a lot of the faults that he was covering up.
 

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This season was lost back during pre-season. If you remember that the 1st string OL did not play together until the first game of the regular season. The running back situation is well known, and Des not getting any practice during training camp. All these things have now shown there ugly head in the Offense. Your assessment of preparation and repetition is very, very true and the coaching staff are the ones who should be held accountable for the lack of these for this season.

It'll be a very interesting offseason. Even Troy during the Green Bay game began hinting at the complexity of our problems and he was spot on when he said it's not all about Romo being out.
 

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I'm not saying we don't have talent on D but the offense has more high quality talent overall than the defense if you go player by player IMO.

Because of that oline, I can see your argument. The oline has so much unlocked potential but, like the others, they have to be made to be afraid to lose their jobs. That said, I just feel like with Hardy, Lee, McClain, Jones. Oscan, Irving, Gregory, & Hitchens primarily you have the type of talent that you can sprinkle a few others around and field a very stingy defense. Of course, injuries have played a part on both sides this year but let's not fool ourselves into thinking this year is an anomaly in terms of our collective inability to unlock the potential of our talent.

I think folks like Street and Williams are vastly overrated. Escobar isn't playing to his potential and my boy Beastly is regressing. The WRs/TEs minus Dez and Witten are vastly underachieving. We won't get into the RB carousel.
 

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It's hard to argue that we consistanly play down to our competition level. I thought it was because every team gets so fired up to play us. Maybe that's it or some of it. Hell, I don't no anymore. This season sucks.
 

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Our fans believe their own hype too. I've never seen a group so afraid to admit their faults. In our fluke excellent 12-4 season last year, a majority of our wins were ugly. We kept bad teams in games they shouldn't have been in and needed some last minute magic to win. Some people complained but most fans didn't want to hear it. "We won. Quit your whining." But those ugly wins comes back to bite you in the playoffs when you play other good teams. It bit us in our other good season during the Romo era. It almost bit us in the first round against the Lions last year. Then we come into this season and we start off very weak. Needed a mental blunder to luck out a win against the Giants in the opener. But we won so quit your whining. Then we looked pathetic offensively against the Eagles. But we won. Then 7 straight losses but Romo is coming back so it's all good. Then an ugly win against the Dolphins but still a win. Then a pathetic performance against the Panthers but Romo looked hurt. Then he goes down again. But a win against the Skins so there's still hope. Now let's talk about hypotheticals about how we would've won this historically bad division if Romo never got hurt and let's get offended any time anyone says we'd still be a bad team even with Romo. If you wanna set your bar low, go head. This team has been bad for a long time. If you need your elite QB to stay healthy 16 games to go 8-8, then you have big problems.

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I don't even think it's that.

I personally feel like the team works hard. Other things are why we are losing games imo.


During training camp we easily looked like the best team that ESPN showed. Everything was so well organized.

I think the core of this team is a group of hard working individuals.


Where we go wrong is being arrogant offensively and defensively with our scheme and when Romo is out it magnifies.

Even with Romo I don't know if we could ever win a Superbowl just being so arrogant with our scheme.

We're not going to line up and just out-athlete 3 or 4 playoff teams in a row.
 
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