Tank... am I the only one appalled at the double-standard?

[Nav22]

We sign Terrell Owens... this board is in meltdown mode.

Half the fan-base is vehemently against the move, half are for it. Sure, he hasn't committed any actual "crimes"... but he has a big ego and an even bigger mouth. That makes him worse than guys like Ahman Green, who beat his wife. Makes him worse than Jamal Lewis, who was involved in dope slangin'. Makes him worse than Ray Lewis, Mr. Double Murder.

If we brought in any of the above men, it would not be objected by the fan-base with 1/1000th the furor that the T.O. signing was objected to.

We have fans claiming that they are turning in their Cowboys Fan cards. We have fans who say they won't cheer for us until "Team Obliterater" is off the team.

"We have gone too far", they say.

Even if we win, it will be an empty win since it took bringing in a human being of HIS caliber.

Jerry is selling his soul to the DEVIL!


Fast-forward 18 months... it appears that a Mr. Terry "Tank" Johnson is on the way.

This man hasn't called his ex-teammate gay... but he did verbally threaten a cop and needed to be maced in order to be subdued and arrested.

He never danced with pom-poms or pulled out a Sharpie to sign a football... but he did violate his probation by having 6 guns in his house, 2 of which were assault rifles. Some of the guns were loaded, and yes... there were children present in the house.

What's the fan-base's reaction? The same people strongly opposed to the T.O. signing?

"Hell yeah, bring him in! We lost Ferguson for the year, and this guy will help us win! Woohoo Tank!!!"


Let me add that I was strongly in favor of the T.O. signing. I knew there was a chance he could be a problem, but the potential reward outweighed the risks for me. Besides, we were not a Super Bowl contender with Keyshawn and Terry Glenn... perhaps T.O. could help elevate us to that level.

And I am also in favor of the Tank signing. I don't think the "risk" factor will be very high, and it makes very little difference to me if our players are choir boys off the field or not. Michael Irvin was anything but that... and he's one of my all-time favorite athletes.

It's just annoying to me that so many people who got their panties in a bunch over the T.O. signing seem to be in favor of bringing in a REAL thug, a REAL criminal, a REAL detriment to society.

 

[Danny White]

Don't worry... nathanlt was outraged then, and he's outraged now.

 

[Hostile]

I guess I don't understand, you'd like to see a lot more outrage?

 

[Dallas]

I guess I don't understand, you'd like to see a lot more outrage?

Me no comprendo this thread.


Can I get a hug?

 

[fortdick]

We sign Terrell Owens... this board is in meltdown mode.

Half the fan-base is vehemently against the move, half are for it. Sure, he hasn't committed any actual "crimes"... but he has a big ego and an even bigger mouth. That makes him worse than guys like Ahman Green, who beat his wife. Makes him worse than Jamal Lewis, who was involved in dope slangin'. Makes him worse than Ray Lewis, Mr. Double Murder.

If we brought in any of the above men, it would not be objected by the fan-base with 1/1000th the furor that the T.O. signing was objected to.

We have fans claiming that they are turning in their Cowboys Fan cards. We have fans who say they won't cheer for us until "Team Obliterater" is off the team.

"We have gone too far", they say.

Even if we win, it will be an empty win since it took bringing in a human being of HIS caliber.

Jerry is selling his soul to the DEVIL!


Fast-forward 18 months... it appears that a Mr. Terry "Tank" Johnson is on the way.

This man hasn't called his ex-teammate gay... but he did verbally threaten a cop and needed to be maced in order to be subdued and arrested.

He never danced with pom-poms or pulled out a Sharpie to sign a football... but he did violate his probation by having 6 guns in his house, 2 of which were assault rifles. Some of the guns were loaded, and yes... there were children present in the house.

What's the fan-base's reaction? The same people strongly opposed to the T.O. signing?

"Hell yeah, bring him in! We lost Ferguson for the year, and this guy will help us win! Woohoo Tank!!!"


Let me add that I was strongly in favor of the T.O. signing. I knew there was a chance he could be a problem, but the potential reward outweighed the risks for me. Besides, we were not a Super Bowl contender with Keyshawn and Terry Glenn... perhaps T.O. could help elevate us to that level.

And I am also in favor of the Tank signing. I don't think the "risk" factor will be very high, and it makes very little difference to me if our players are choir boys off the field or not. Michael Irvin was anything but that... and he's one of my all-time favorite athletes.

It's just annoying to me that so many people who got their panties in a bunch over the T.O. signing seem to be in favor of bringing in a REAL thug, a REAL criminal, a REAL detriment to society.

I don't get your point. It may be the aimless ramblings, but are you for or against the Tank signing?

Tank Johnson is a risk. His bodyguard getting shot dead tells me he is in that thug culture. All his guns don't bother me, it is what he planned to do with them. Every American should have at least one firearm. Assault weapons are not bad things. A mini 14 is considered an assault weapon.

Getting maced by the cops? Maybe we had a rookie out there that got scared of the big Black guy. It happens. Almost drunk driving? Who hasn't?

But for the league minimum, we can take a chance. IF he screws up, he is done.

As far as TO, what the heck has that got to do with Tank Johnson. IF anything, the lessons we learned from TO should help us relax a bit on Tank.

I hope I addressed your issues.

 

[Hostile]

Me no comprendo this thread.


Can I get a hug?

No. You told everyone about my PM with man love for Tank.

 

[theogt]

Maybe people realized that signing TO was a good thing after the fact and are taking that wait-and-see approach with Tank?

You don't have to be consistent for the sake of being consistent. Life is about living and learning.

 

[Vtwin]

What's an "assault" rifle?

 

[Hoov]

Its because TO played for the 49ers and the eagles, 2 teams that most cowboys fans cant stand. And TO did all that crap with disrepscting the star as a 49er and all his TD celebrations when he scored on the Boys when he was with both teams.

 

[Hostile]

What's an "assault" rifle?

Seriously?

One that has a military caliber and is not considered a hunting weapon. For example, an SKS.

 

[WoodysGirl]

On the flip side, maybe the board saw how the TO signing has worked out for the most part that they're willing to give a guy like Tank a chance. For me, the TO signing has been OK. Some screwy moments, but OK.

Personally, I think Tank's too much of a knucklehead and somehow, some way, he'll find a way to screw up or get himself in a bad situation.

Regardless of my personal opinion, I feel now, like I did when TO signed. Don't particularly want him on board, but if he signs, he signs, if he doesn't, he doesn't. If he screws up, he'll be gone on the next train smoking.

 

[zrinkill]

Regardless of my personal opinion, I feel now, like I did when TO signed. Don't particularly want him on board, but if he signs, he signs, if he doesn't, he doesn't. If he screws up, he'll be gone on the next train smoking.

Awesome!

 

[fortdick]

Seriously?

One that has a military caliber and is not considered a hunting weapon. For example, an SKS.

Anything semi automatic with a detachable magazine that can carry more than 10 rounds. Little idiotic things like a flash suppresor, bayonet lug, pistol grip can all get a weapon classfied as an assault weapon.

If you can believe it, the Ruger 10/22 is technically an assault weapon.

 

[anygivensun]

What pisses me off is the guns thing. A man who makes his kind of salaries should own at least twice as many guns I think the biggest difference between TO and the "bad apples" you mention on the original post is that TO has proven to be bad for a team. He has great talent, and is a hard worker, but when things go bad he can blow up a locker room. Lewis may have killed a man or two, J. Lewis may have sold a gram or so, and Tank likes the thug personality and life style, but none of those guys have the track record TO has for singlehandedly ruining a team's season. Also, there is the salary. The way I look at tank is if he screws up he's gone. No regrets. If TO had turned into a cancer with the 'boys, it would have put a significant hit on the cap space. High risk/high reward vs. no risk/high reward.

 

[Hostile]

Anything semi automatic with a detachable magazine that can carry more than 10 rounds. Little idiotic things like a flash suppresor, bayonet lug, pistol grip can all get a weapon classfied as an assault weapon.

If you can believe it, the Ruger 10/22 is technically an assault weapon.

I know, but I thought I'd keep it simple. I love the 10/22 BTW. Wish I had one. I did have an SKS for a while. I was lethal with it on the range.

 

[FCBarca]

If nothing else, it's a testament to how fickle some fans can be...They're ready to persecute an opposing player if they get into trouble of any kind but annoint them if they happen to play for 'their' team...Double standards?...Of course there is, it's society wide....An enormous amount of hypocracy.

I, for one, was against the TO signing...I think he's a phenomenal player but I wanted nothing to do with the person on the team...Let's face it, there isn't a fan out there honestly who isn't just 'waiting' for him to do something that will cause him to implode...Eggshells, definitely...Is he doing well this season?...Yeah, sure...But in the end, this is football, they're not your friends or role models...To do it all over again, I'd rather Jerry signed someone else...I'll be happy with the success TO brings but let's face it, TO the person is gonna remain TO the clown he is.

As for Tank, mixed feelings on it...I think there has to be a standard to be upheld whether it's Pacman jones, Vick, Lewis, Moss or whomever...At the same time, we know every other team will be after those same players too so you have competitive needs that supercede the ethical ones...I'd rather we didn't sign him but then again I know people who know Tank and have hung out with him and rave about how good a guy he is...I hate guns so I can't rally behind someone stocking an armada at home, either.

I'd rather put ethics ahead of a player's talents but billion dollar business and money is money for the Billionaire Boys Club...If we don't sign him, soneone else will...Double standards galore...I wouldn't sign him but he'll fill a need whether I think it's wrong or not...In the end, they're out to make money and ethics aren't going to get in the way for the owners.

 

[conner01]

two totally different things. t.o. was signed to be an important part of our offense, tank is being signed to be a backup
we are'nt commiting any money to tank, we commited lots to t.o.
t.o. had the capacity to be a disruption as he was a starter and an important part of the offense, if tank does'nt work out we just resign remmy
two totally different situations

 

[Dallas]

On the flip side, maybe the board saw how the TO signing has worked out for the most part that they're willing to give a guy like Tank a chance. For me, the TO signing has been OK. Some screwy moments, but OK.

Personally, I think Tank's too much of a knucklehead and somehow, some way, he'll find a way to screw up or get himself in a bad situation.

Regardless of my personal opinion, I feel now, like I did when TO signed. Don't particularly want him on board, but if he signs, he signs, if he doesn't, he doesn't. If he screws up, he'll be gone on the next train smoking.

So what you are saying is T.O could screw up and get cut by the team and you would not care one way or the other.


Excuse me. I am opening my window to scream BS.

You can't put Tank and T.O in the same debate. They are 2 different caliber of players. One is a workhorse and the other is a game changing WR.

 

[Vtwin]

Seriously?

One that has a military caliber and is not considered a hunting weapon. For example, an SKS.

Sorry for the sarcasm.I believe the term was originated by the gun control people because of it's dramatic affect.I know a few people who hunt deer with sporterized SKSs

 

[Chocolate Lab]

You can't confuse being a bad teammate with a bad human being.

Not many people think T.O. is an evil or criminal person, but he has been very bad for team chemistry in the past. Calling your QB gay, demanding attention 24/7, and refusing to talk to your coaches isn't good for a team no matter how you slice it.

In those ways, a selfish, needy player like that can be a worse teammate than someone who breaks the law. Look at Michael Irvin for an example.

I haven't ever heard of Tank being a worse teammate than T.O., have you? Worse person, that is up for debate.

But BTW, I'm sure many agree that having loaded guns is entirely different than beating women. The two may both be crimes, but one is much worse than the other.