Tanking is not very common in the NFL

[darthseinfeld]

I cant speak for everyone. I am sure that some would wish we would tank. If I knew that 4 more losses would get Garrett fired, I would sit back and root for whatever team is playing us.

Im one of the people that wishes we lost more games in 2010 and 2015 to get better assets. I think week 16, 17....ya you can go into tank mode if your season is about done

 

[darthseinfeld]

Exactly, folks who say they are tanking are way off. Every guy on that team is busting their butt for a job next year. Nobody's job is safe and players know it.

Raiders are another team the word got thrown around with after they traded Mack amd Cooper. If it was true tank job, they would have traded Carr as well. Right now they sit at 3-2

 

[CowboyRoy]

Im one of the people that wishes we lost more games in 2010 and 2015 to get better assets. I think week 16, 17....ya you can go into tank mode if your season is about done

Jerry isnt smart enough to go into tank mode.

 

[atlantacowboy]

Raiders are another team the word got thrown around with after they traded Mack amd Cooper. If it was true tank job, they would have traded Carr as well. Right now they sit at 3-2

Folks forget that we were 3-13 and traded Hershel Walker, our best player. Was that a tank job? Dolphins doing the same thing

 

[MysteryIceGuro]

Tanking to me is when teams know they're out of the playoff hunt and just don't care anymore. Many players have testified to this attitude among their teammates. They say that many players are just playing because they have the talent and they just want to collect a paycheck. So when they see they're out of the playoff picture, they hit cruise control.

Aka, this Dallas team? Cause that perfectly describes this Dallas team.

 

[kskboys]

I hear this word thrown around here as far as the Cowboys season. Actually tanking isnt something that occurs frequently in the NFL. Its more of an NBA thing. The Dolphins season is closest thing you will get to tanking in the NFL

A question I have to fan that say we are tanking. What exactly is "tanking" to you?

I think it happens quite a bit more than you think. Indy to get Luck, DET to get Stafford.

Tanking is done by the coaches and GM's. And it cannot be made too obvious, or draft picks would be taken away.

 

[kskboys]

Thats the closest an NFL team can come to true tanking. True tanking just doesnt work in this league. The word gets thrown around too much. I don't think those people understand what tanking actually is

Trading off or not playing talent. Really sneaky coaches might call plays that won't work or play player combos that won't work. Much of it is subtle.

 

[GenoT]

I hear this word thrown around here as far as the Cowboys season. Actually tanking isnt something that occurs frequently in the NFL. Its more of an NBA thing. The Dolphins season is closest thing you will get to tanking in the NFL

A question I have to fan that say we are tanking. What exactly is "tanking" to you?

FYI: for the last @20 seasons, tanking in the NBA hasn’t guaranteed the worst team receiving the #1 pick; they use a weighted lottery. As a matter of fact, the worst NBA team rarely gets the #1.

Meanwhile, the worst team in the NFL always gets the #1 pick.

Beg, borrow or steal it...but get a clue.

 

[Chrispierce]

Not for tanking in sports...it’s poor sportsmanship and compromises it’s integrity. But reality is a lot aren’t that way. So if you’re a really bad team and 2-13...go ahead and lose that last one if you need that #1 pick that badly.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I hear this word thrown around here as far as the Cowboys season. Actually tanking isnt something that occurs frequently in the NFL. Its more of an NBA thing. The Dolphins season is closest thing you will get to tanking in the NFL

A question I have to fan that say we are tanking. What exactly is "tanking" to you?

I'm fine with tanking as soon if we lose a few more in the coming weeks. If the coaching staff remains the same then it is a bad idea as it gives the players good reason to lose faith in the regime. Can Garrett put a filler in to end the season and focus on developing young players like Hill, McGovern, and the like. You try to win games with play calls and game management but you play your developing players a lot more than you typically would.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

FYI: for the last @20 seasons, tanking in the NBA hasn’t guaranteed the worst team receiving the #1 pick; they use a weighted lottery. As a matter of fact, the worst NBA team rarely gets the #1.

Meanwhile, the worst team in the NFL always gets the #1 pick.

Beg, borrow or steal it...but get a clue.

Tanking has worked for both the 76ers and the Spurs even with the lottery.

 

[GenoT]

Tanking has worked for both the 76ers and the Spurs even with the lottery.

Two teams since the first NBA lottery...LOL!!?!

Be that as it may but, as history has shown, the odds in the NBA’s lottery system are no guarantee.

Meanwhile, why shouldn’t an NFL team rank?

 

[Blackspider214]

Tanking is pointless in the NFL. There is no such thing as rebuilding. Due to the violent nature of the sports, careers are shorter. With how many moving parts there are at all times, one person can not change a franchise around like it can in the NBA. Look at the Browns. They have been bad now for about 15 years. How many high draft picks? Tons. What have they done? Not a thing.

 

[Beast_from_East]

Some fans are confused...………..tanking is losing on purpose, Dallas is losing right now because they just suck.

Losing because you suck is not tanking.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Two teams since the first NBA lottery...LOL!!?!

Be that as it may but, as history has shown, the odds in the NBA’s lottery system are no guarantee.

Meanwhile, why shouldn’t an NFL team rank?

Every team since the lottery has been incepted has not tanked thus the denominator is not all those teams. outside of that you have the Knicks who got Porzingis, Sonics who got Durant and Westbrook, Cavs got Lebron, and the Nets got Derrick Coleman.

The most famous tank was Hakeem and Sampson for the Rockets.

And there is a guarantee that you will get a top 4 pick and a 65% to to get a top 3. Most NBA drafts have 2 to 5 blue chip players ie difference makers.

The major difference between the NFL and the NBA is the numbers of players on the field/court and roster. OTOH, a high draft pick means you are picking at the top of every round where it is meaningful whereas the NBA second round hit rate is minuscule.

If you are only looking at first round there are only a couple of positions worth tanking for. I'm not sold on Dak at his asking price and would be fine picking a top QB; a DT like Brown from Auburn would solve a lot of defensive problems.

 

[GenoT]

Every team since the lottery has been incepted has not tanked thus the denominator is not all those teams. outside of that you have the Knicks who got Porzingis, Sonics who got Durant and Westbrook, Cavs got Lebron, and the Nets got Derrick Coleman.

The most famous tank was Hakeem and Sampson for the Rockets.

And there is a guarantee that you will get a top 4 pick and a 65% to to get a top 3. Most NBA drafts have 2 to 5 blue chip players ie difference makers.

The major difference between the NFL and the NBA is the numbers of players on the field/court and roster. OTOH, a high draft pick means you are picking at the top of every round where it is meaningful whereas the NBA second round hit rate is minuscule.

If you are only looking at first round there are only a couple of positions worth tanking for. I'm not sold on Dak at his asking price and would be fine picking a top QB; a DT like Brown from Auburn would solve a lot of defensive problems.

Whatever you say, pal...you know best.

Bottom-line: tanking into last place overall in the NBA doesn’t guarantee the #1 pick. Tanking into last place overall in the NFL does.

 

[darthseinfeld]

FYI: for the last @20 seasons, tanking in the NBA hasn’t guaranteed the worst team receiving the #1 pick; they use a weighted lottery. As a matter of fact, the worst NBA team rarely gets the #1.

Meanwhile, the worst team in the NFL always gets the #1 pick.

Beg, borrow or steal it...but get a clue.

Tanking the the NBA is all about acquiring the best assets you can, even if it doesnt yield the #1. The 76ers actively tanked for about 3 years, and it only netted the #1 overall pick once. They still have a championship contender to show for it. In the NBA it doesnt always work. In fact it fails more than it succeeds. You still need alot of luck. Like them being able to get Embiid at #3

 

[GenoT]

Tanking the the NBA is all about acquiring the best assets you can, even if it doesnt yield the #1. The 76ers actively tanked for about 3 years, and it only netted the #1 overall pick once. They still have a championship contender to show for it. In the NBA it doesnt always work. In fact it fails more than it succeeds. You still need alot of luck. Like them being able to get Embiid at #3

 

[darthseinfeld]

Whatever you say, pal...you know best.

Bottom-line: tanking into last place in the NBA doesn’t guarantee the #1 pick. Tanking into last place in the NFL does.

The big difference in the NFL you need 22 starters and probably 10 or more key reserves. One or two players usually isnt going to be enough for a turnaround. In both sports, wheather you tank or dont tank, you are only going to build a contender if you have a strong organization. Look at Lucks career. The Colts failure to draft well kept to where his high water mark is the divison round. Anthony Davis is a good example in basketball. Generational talent. Pels could never put a decent team around him and they got nowhere

 

[darthseinfeld]

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