Tapper has pars defect

Those who'd like to learn about every injury that exists need only follow the Cowboys -- they've got 'em all. :banghead:
 
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Doc50 said:
Team doctors probably found it on his admission X-rays. It's not a fracture, but a defect in the development of the vertebral facets that interlock vertebrae. It creates a risk of instability, significant enough to deny military service.

I don't see how he can play with that kind of risk unless he has corrective surgery.
Maybe that's the plan.
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Thank you for your insight!! Question: Does this get worse over time without medical intervention? I assume he has played with this condition up to this point, is his risk of serious injury more today than when he played in College? Does the defect make his bones in the back weaker? Or is it a pain management issue?

Thanks
 
So if the Cowboys doctors knew this months ago and figured they could eventually deal with it, it still calls into question what the hell the front office was thinking when it comes to the defensive end position.
 
Sydla said:
So if the Cowboys doctors knew this months ago and figured they could eventually deal with it, it still calls into question what the hell the front office was thinking when it comes to the defensive end position.
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Exactly

DLaw and Gregory suspended
Russell cut
Tapper broke backed
Mayowa untested

SJones "we aren't looking at anyone at this point"
 
bkight13 said:
Exactly

DLaw and Gregory suspended
Russell cut
Tapper broke backed
Mayowa untested

SJones "we aren't looking at anyone at this point"
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But you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater during a four game suspension of DLaw. When he gets back the DE position is fine assuming there are no new injuries.

The DT position is fine and we have depth at both positions.

Jack Crawford is OK as a LDE until DLaw gets back and Irving is fine as a backup.

So you are really looking at the RDE position and they made the call to go with Mayowa long ago. It was another Will McClay decision and he has been very good at finding the hidden gems in the last few years.

The real issue is backing up RDE. I really, really hate using Wilbur as a DE but if you are forced into it for a couple of series in each half its not the end of the world in Marinelli's scheme.

The real issue is how fast Tapper can be on the field, how well he plays and if Jack Crawford can take full time snaps while DLaw is suspended.
 
Kaiser said:
But you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater during a four game suspension of DLaw. When he gets back the DE position is fine assuming there are no new injuries.

The DT position is fine and we have depth at both positions.

Jack Crawford is OK as a LDE until DLaw gets back and Irving is fine as a backup.

So you are really looking at the RDE position and they made the call to go with Mayowa long ago. It was another Will McClay decision and he has been very good at finding the hidden gems in the last few years.

The real issue is backing up RDE. I really, really hate using Wilbur as a DE but if you are forced into it for a couple of series in each half its not the end of the world in Marinelli's scheme.

The real issue is how fast Tapper can be on the field, how well he plays and if Jack Crawford can take full time snaps while DLaw is suspended.
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:clap:
 
Sydla said:
So if the Cowboys doctors knew this months ago and figured they could eventually deal with it, it still calls into question what the hell the front office was thinking when it comes to the defensive end position.
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Boy oh boy if there's a path that leads by Dracula's castle whenever it comes to the Cowboys... you're on the path in a jiffy!
 
Kaiser said:
But you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater during a four game suspension of DLaw. When he gets back the DE position is fine assuming there are no new injuries.

The DT position is fine and we have depth at both positions.

Jack Crawford is OK as a LDE until DLaw gets back and Irving is fine as a backup.

So you are really looking at the RDE position and they made the call to go with Mayowa long ago. It was another Will McClay decision and he has been very good at finding the hidden gems in the last few years.

The real issue is backing up RDE. I really, really hate using Wilbur as a DE but if you are forced into it for a couple of series in each half its not the end of the world in Marinelli's scheme.

The real issue is how fast Tapper can be on the field, how well he plays and if Jack Crawford can take full time snaps while DLaw is suspended.
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I think your choice of words is telling.......'fine' 'OK' 'forced' 'hidden gems'......I would have signed someone a long time ago
 
Kaiser said:
But you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater during a four game suspension of DLaw. When he gets back the DE position is fine assuming there are no new injuries.

The DT position is fine and we have depth at both positions.

Jack Crawford is OK as a LDE until DLaw gets back and Irving is fine as a backup.

So you are really looking at the RDE position and they made the call to go with Mayowa long ago. It was another Will McClay decision and he has been very good at finding the hidden gems in the last few years.

The real issue is backing up RDE. I really, really hate using Wilbur as a DE but if you are forced into it for a couple of series in each half its not the end of the world in Marinelli's scheme.

The real issue is how fast Tapper can be on the field, how well he plays and if Jack Crawford can take full time snaps while DLaw is suspended.
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The problem with this is - they were not forced to go with Wilber. There have been, continue to be other options, they have chosen to go this route.
I know its beating a dead horse at this point, but the F.O. has made a conscious decision to - go thin at DE, to not look for alternatives with Tapper being injured and having Known about it for at least a month - before cut downs and players being available.
It has been a comedy of errors that just continues to be compounded every time we hear new news on injuries, suspensions, secret weapons etc.
 
Kaiser said:
But you don't throw the baby out with the bathwater during a four game suspension of DLaw. When he gets back the DE position is fine assuming there are no new injuries.

The DT position is fine and we have depth at both positions.

Jack Crawford is OK as a LDE until DLaw gets back and Irving is fine as a backup.

So you are really looking at the RDE position and they made the call to go with Mayowa long ago. It was another Will McClay decision and he has been very good at finding the hidden gems in the last few years.

The real issue is backing up RDE. I really, really hate using Wilbur as a DE but if you are forced into it for a couple of series in each half its not the end of the world in Marinelli's scheme.

The real issue is how fast Tapper can be on the field, how well he plays and if Jack Crawford can take full time snaps while DLaw is suspended.
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That's exactly right.

I don't think anyone is hunky-dory with the situation for the first 4 games BUT just getting rid of Hayden having Thornton and keeping McClain injury free... Having Nick Hayden in the lineup was like having a 3-man defensive line.

DT is world's better than it has been in several seasons.

I'm anxious to see how the young guys like Irving and Mayowa do. And I'm not ready to announce Tapper's retirement from the league due to back problems.
 
bkight13 said:
I think your choice of words is telling.......'fine' 'OK' 'forced' 'hidden gems'......I would have signed someone a long time ago
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So the obvious followup is who?

DLaw's suspension is a problem but you don't overpay for a 16 game player to fill a 4 game spot.

The other part of the plan was to take Ogbah or Dodd with the 2nd round pick but that didn't work out on a complete fluke with both going in the two picks ahead of ours in the 2nd.

They also expected Ryan Russell to play better than he did, and Irving and Tapper to be healthy.

Every year some positions have a wave of problems, you can't start the offseason by overpaying for the 3rd or 4th option at a position. You just gut out the couple of games where you are thin at the position.
 
Kaiser said:
So the obvious followup is who?

DLaw's suspension is a problem but you don't overpay for a 16 game player to fill a 4 game spot.

The other part of the plan was to take Ogbah or Dodd with the 2nd round pick but that didn't work out on a complete fluke with both going in the two picks ahead of ours in the 2nd.

They also expected Ryan Russell to play better than he did, and Irving and Tapper to be healthy.

Every year some positions have a wave of problems, you can't start the offseason by overpaying for the 3rd or 4th option at a position. You just gut out the couple of games where you are thin at the position.
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Things looked pretty good after the Draft but the situation changed pretty dramatically....at the very least I would have signed Freeney and/or recently Kruger or Ryan Davis
 
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