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Hostile;4470295 said:
Costa, Kowalski, Nagy, Livings, Bernabeau, Pernell, and Arkin would be all in danger. Obviously one of those guys is a starter with Free, Smith, DeCastro, and say Blake. I'll say Bernabeau is for the sake of this. I think Pernell is safest of the 6 remaining. From there you look at price to release and flexibility. That makes Livings and Nagy safe probably. I think they'd try to put Kowalski on the PS, and keep Arkin.

Smith, DeCastro, Blake, Bernabeau, Free
Pernell, Livings, Nagy, Arkin

Arkin and Bernebeau have both been talked about as possible RT fill in substitutions.


yeah i was pretty much thinking Costa and Kowalski also.

interesting note about Arkin and RT subbing. do you think that's more for unbalanced line looks or legitimate backup role type of possibilities?
 
Dcowboy84;4470365 said:
yeah i was pretty much thinking Costa and Kowalski also.

interesting note about Arkin and RT subbing. do you think that's more for unbalanced line looks or legitimate backup role type of possibilities?
He played OT at Missouri State a little. So I think it is need based flexibility.
 
Hos ya know I love ya buddy but I don't agree at all...

unless the team has already thrown in the towel on Nagy, Arkin, Killa and Costa...but if not you can't justify spending more resources there until you are sure they aren't going to pan out...let me explain why...

IF they do come around and you have spent your resources elsewhere like DL and they panned out than you have improved your team.

IF you spend your resources on oline and they all pan out great problem to have but what have you truly done to improve your team with the resources you just wasted.

Here is where you and I differ... to you the oline is a hole or an area of need <---but what I am trying to tell you is you can not know that for sure unless you know that those 2 guys we just signed plus the other 4 are all going to crash and burn...

but there are areas on this team we do know of where there is no "hopefuls" waiting in the wings that we could use the draft for to get a "hopeful" in there.

I realize you have a man crush on DeCastro but he would just be adding to the list of "hopefuls" already there.

Well atleast thats the way I see it my friend...heck I could be dead wrong which I am sure you think I am :) but I would do it just like I think Jason is going to be doing it. and draft hopefuls were there are none.

nothing but respect Boss :gent:
 
Dear heavens. WHATEVER you do, do NOT do a google image search on "Janet Reno bikini" :eek:
 
As I see it, this has Callahan written all over it. These are obviously a couple of 2nd or even 3rd tier FA's he likes, he sees something in them.

RBs are what they are as rookies or 2nd yr players. That's the peak for them. They may keep it going at clsoe to the peak for another 3-5 yrs, but they peak in yr two.

Offensive lineman take the longest to develope. Sure plenty of them are good as rookies and peak in yr two or three. But a bunch keep getting better and tend to peak after yr three or four.

QBs and OLs are unique in that way. With everyone else, you know what you have in the 2nd year.

It wouldn't suprise me for either one of these players to do far more in Dallas than they have to this point.
 
Phoenix;4470435 said:
Dear heavens. WHATEVER you do, do NOT do a google image search on "Janet Reno bikini" :eek:
Why would anybody do that?

You need to quit punishing your liver.
 
Zaxor;4470415 said:
Hos ya know I love ya buddy but I don't agree at all...

unless the team has already thrown in the towel on Nagy, Arkin, Killa and Costa...but if not you can't justify spending more resources there until you are sure they aren't going to pan out...let me explain why...

IF they do come around and you have spent your resources elsewhere like DL and they panned out than you have improved your team.

IF you spend your resources on oline and they all pan out great problem to have but what have you truly done to improve your team with the resources you just wasted.

Here is where you and I differ... to you the oline is a hole or an area of need <---but what I am trying to tell you is you can not know that for sure unless you know that those 2 guys we just signed plus the other 4 are all going to crash and burn...

but there are areas on this team we do know of where there is no "hopefuls" waiting in the wings that we could use the draft for to get a "hopeful" in there.

I realize you have a man crush on DeCastro but he would just be adding to the list of "hopefuls" already there.

Well atleast thats the way I see it my friend...heck I could be dead wrong which I am sure you think I am :) but I would do it just like I think Jason is going to be doing it. and draft hopefuls were there are none.

nothing but respect Boss :gent:

I agree. As great a prospect as DeCastro is, targeting him because he would be a safe pick is short sighted. Dallas has to factor in d-line and LB needs at 14 before determining who offers the greatest long term value.
 
I've been on the Peter K bandwagon for quite sometime. I see no reason to jump off now. :)
 
Great post as usual Hos.
An OL with T.Smith DeCastro and Konz would be a dream but I could live even with Smith Zeitler and Konz :starspin
 
I think I'm in the same with a large part of Cowboys fans.

I'm afraid that with the Livings and Benardeau signings, we will once again go on the cheap with the O-Line. And once again at about midway thru the season, particularly on the road, we'll struggle when teams blitz and stunt to the inside and the running game will slowly erode.

I think Nicks was a bit out of our price range. I think Grubbs was affordable and we decided to look for Livings. I'm greatly disappointed that we haven't looked to pick up an established, quality center. And I can't help but get the feeling that come draft day we'll be scratching our heads once again as to why we didn't take somebody like DeCastro.

As I like to say 'your best thinking got you here.' The organizations dogmatic philosophies of doing just enough to get bye on the O-Line and at safety has resulted in 1 playoff victory in what? 15 years? And we missed the playoffs the last 2 years.

Perhaps it's time for a change in philosophies like this.






YR
 
It appears Garrett learned well at the knew of the master when he visited Jimmy in Marathon last summer.
 
The agent for free agent OLB Erik Walden says he wants to re-sign with the Packers, but claims he's been in contact with "five or six teams."


Walden hasn't made any visits since the start of free agency, and is unlikely to return to a Packers team that reportedly grew "disenchanted" with him in 2011. His playing time dwindled following his November arrest for domestic assault. Walden graded out as one of the worst outside linebackers in the league by Pro Football Focus last season. The Cowboys are one of the teams interested.
 
While I wouldn't be unhappy with a DeCastro pick, I actually expect him to be gone before our first choice.

The question then will be whether there is someone at 14 that is justified by the Cowboys board, or do they try and trade back.

I'd really only expect one OLineman from the top part of this draft. Just hope it is someone who can hit the ground running, like T. Smith did last year.
 
Yakuza Rich;4470576 said:
I think I'm in the same with a large part of Cowboys fans.

I'm afraid that with the Livings and Benardeau signings, we will once again go on the cheap with the O-Line. And once again at about midway thru the season, particularly on the road, we'll struggle when teams blitz and stunt to the inside and the running game will slowly erode.

I think Nicks was a bit out of our price range. I think Grubbs was affordable and we decided to look for Livings. I'm greatly disappointed that we haven't looked to pick up an established, quality center. And I can't help but get the feeling that come draft day we'll be scratching our heads once again as to why we didn't take somebody like DeCastro.

As I like to say 'your best thinking got you here.' The organizations dogmatic philosophies of doing just enough to get bye on the O-Line and at safety has resulted in 1 playoff victory in what? 15 years? And we missed the playoffs the last 2 years.

Perhaps it's time for a change in philosophies like this.






YR


Really? I'm not seeing that.
Free's contract= Expensive....Smith as a 9th pick= Expensive

Let's see what we "invest" in the OL next month.

Another way of looking at this is the team wants competition and depth. Maybe they don't want any inexpensive RFA OL on the 53. Perhaps they want 5-6 players from the 2011 squad they trust, these two signings and a couple of 2012 draft choices.
 
Yakuza Rich;4470576 said:
I think I'm in the same with a large part of Cowboys fans.

I'm afraid that with the Livings and Benardeau signings, we will once again go on the cheap with the O-Line. And once again at about midway thru the season, particularly on the road, we'll struggle when teams blitz and stunt to the inside and the running game will slowly erode.

I think Nicks was a bit out of our price range. I think Grubbs was affordable and we decided to look for Livings. I'm greatly disappointed that we haven't looked to pick up an established, quality center. And I can't help but get the feeling that come draft day we'll be scratching our heads once again as to why we didn't take somebody like DeCastro.

As I like to say 'your best thinking got you here.' The organizations dogmatic philosophies of doing just enough to get bye on the O-Line and at safety has resulted in 1 playoff victory in what? 15 years? And we missed the playoffs the last 2 years.

Perhaps it's time for a change in philosophies like this.






YR
Garrett has not been here the last 15 years, so if we are in fact simply carrying out this same philosophy, only this time with newer, younger, yet still sub-par players then this means one of two things. Either Jerry and Stephen Jones are forcing this philosophy onto Garrett, or Garrett is willingly buying into it.

But I'm holding out hope for Garret's possible third option, which is to upgrade these positions, but do it carefully, addressing both depth and starters with ther right targeted options in draft and free agency to make it all work for the long run. Not all of these changes may be seen this offseason, but then again, long term solutions take longer term planning. So it may not be until the end of next years draft and free agency that we see the entire plan come to fruition.
 
"Jessica Alba vs. Janet Reno is a bikini contest"

Dude, really? You had to go there?
 
sonnyboy;4470804 said:
Really? I'm not seeing that.
Free's contract= Expensive....Smith as a 9th pick= Expensive

Let's see what we "invest" in the OL next month.

Another way of looking at this is the team wants competition and depth. Maybe they don't want any inexpensive RFA OL on the 53. Perhaps they want 5-6 players from the 2011 squad they trust, these two signings and a couple of 2012 draft choices.

Let's hope so.




YR
 
They ought to send the whole lot of young OLine men and the 2 new FA's to the Football clinic that Holland went to after getting cut last summer and returned in supposedly pretty good condition and sharpened skills.

.....but I suppose that is the new Olline coach's job......

Blocking TE........send in a swing tackle in the position when needed....basically go with an extra OLineman on the rooster and in the game alot of times....gotta be one that could catch as many balls as Bennett:rolleyes:
 
As much as I want DC and Konz on the OL, would have no problem with trading down to target Zeit and Konz if DC was gone.
 

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