Tashard Choice Stiffarm

[Bungarian]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDEyshcU9YQ

 

[NorthTexan95]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDEyshcU9YQ

I think more impressive is the cut back he made in the hole to break free. It looks like the slot (FB?) blocked the wrong guy but Tashard was one on one with a linebacker who was filling the hole. Should have been a tackle for no gain. Then Tashard makes his juke and he's gone. Very nice.

 

[theogt]

I think more impressive is the cut back he made in the hole to break free. It looks like the slot (FB?) blocked the wrong guy but Tashard was one on one with a linebacker who was filling the hole. Should have been a tackle for no gain. Then Tashard makes his juke and he's gone. Very nice.

I was about to say the same thing. He left that guy like he was stuck in quick sand. Choice was one of the better cutting backs in this draft.

 

[zrinkill]

I really like this kid ..... I almost wish ..... never mind.

 

[fan62]

A stiff arm like that will likely draw a penatly in the NFL this season.

 

[reddyuta]

A stiff arm like that will likely draw a penatly in the NFL this season.

nope-he caught him on the shoulder.

 

[TheCount]

That wasn't much of a stiffarm, he was going out of bounds and the guy tackling him had let up a bit to avoid the penalty. It shows he doesn't shy from contact, which is good.

But I agree with most of the other guys, the cut was what made that a highlight. It got him yards, the stiffarm didn't do anything to get him yards.

 

[theogt]

That wasn't much of a stiffarm

Please, rewind and watch the video again. Repeat as necessary.

The defender was lowering his shoulder to knock Choice out of bounds. Choice punches his shoulder. The guy flies forward onto the ground.

 

[Hoofbite]

A stiff arm like that will likely draw a penatly in the NFL this season.

I thought that new rule applied to grabbing the facemask by the runner.

 

[Hostile]

A stiff arm like that will likely draw a penatly in the NFL this season.

Only if it is to the facemask. You can stiff arm an opponent anywhere but the facemask.

 

[TheCount]

Please, rewind and watch the video again. Repeat as necessary.

The defender was lowering his shoulder to knock Choice out of bounds. Choice punches his shoulder. The guy flies forward onto the ground.

Maybe you should rewind it. The defender was definitely letting up, was running virtually upright and made no attempt to wrap him up. He was going to try and bump him out of bounds, not lay him out. The stiffarm put him on the ground sure, if that's what you mean.

It still didn't affect the play regardless.

Only if it is to the facemask. You can stiff arm an opponent anywhere but the facemask.

I thought you are allowed to stiff arm in the facemask as long as you don't grab, twist or punch? We really need to get a clearly, more definite explanation of this rule. I sure hope the ref's understand it more clearly than we do.

 

[theogt]

Maybe you should rewind it. The defender was definitely letting up, was running virtually upright and made no attempt to wrap him up. He was going to try and bump him out of bounds, not lay him out. The stiffarm put him on the ground sure, if that's what you mean.

It still didn't affect the play regardless.

He wasn't letting up much at all, if any. He began to lower his shoulder, which implies he was readying to hit him to force him out of bounds.

I'm glad you realize that the stiffarm is what put his butt on the ground. To me that's an impressive stiffarm, regardless of whether it actually helped him acquire more yardage on this particular play.l

 

[WoodysGirl]

I thought you are allowed to stiff arm in the facemask as long as you don't grab, twist or punch? We really need to get a clearly, more definite explanation of this rule. I sure hope the ref's understand it more clearly than we do.

I think this is closer to the real definition. It's not a rule change, it's a point of emphasis similar to how they started being more strict about the illegal contact rule. Basically, they'll be looking at offensive players closer for hands to the face violations.

 

[TheCount]

He wasn't letting up much at all, if any. He began to lower his shoulder, which implies he was readying to hit him to force him out of bounds.

I'm glad you realize that the stiffarm is what put his butt on the ground. To me that's an impressive stiffarm, regardless of whether it actually helped him acquire more yardage on this particular play.l

To me it's not impressive, so we'll agree to disagree.

The guy did little more than flail an arm to try and knock him out of bounds, and literally slowed down once he got beside Choice. The only reason he lowered his shoulder was to try and absorb the bump, which didn't help much. How are you going to tackle a guy running beside him?

You want to see real stiff arms, I've collected a few samples for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8TlNtrpQ6s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-8m1T3oYqM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt9eGB9HIyc

Those are stiffarms. Pushing a guy over that is letting up while you are both headed out of bounds doesn't do anything. The cuts were what made that a highlight, not him pushing a guy over as he was going out of bounds.

 

[theogt]

To me it's not impressive, so we'll agree to disagree.

The guy did little more than flail an arm to try and knock him out of bounds, and literally slowed down once he got beside Choice. The only reason he lowered his shoulder was to try and absorb the bump, which didn't help much. How are you going to tackle a guy running beside him?

You want to see real stiff arms, I've collected a few samples for you:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T8TlNtrpQ6s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-8m1T3oYqM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mt9eGB9HIyc

Those are stiffarms. Pushing a guy over that is letting up while you are both headed out of bounds doesn't do anything. The cuts were what made that a highlight, not him pushing a guy over as he was going out of bounds.

Eh...none of those were as impressive as the OP's video. Most of those were tiny defensive backs. The first one was already off-balance and falling backwards.

 

[Juke99]

Nice quick cut in the hole...

And yeah, that stiff arm looks like Marion Jr.

 

[fan62]

From what I understand, the new rule was also to stop hard blows to the head.

 

[big dog cowboy]

I like it. I like it a lot!

 

[TheCount]

Eh...none of those were as impressive as the OP's video. Most of those were tiny defensive backs. The first one was already off-balance and falling backwards.

Choice was also against a DB, and not even against one that was actually trying to tackle him.

We'll agree to disagree on whether it was impressive or not, in my mind it's more impressive when it leads to something and against a guy that actually has got it in his mind he's about to make a play.

 

[mrecktid]

rofl those youtube videos were hilarious, and we wonder why corners are just diving at rb's legs now instead of going up high