Tavon Austin - No Fumble Problem On Offense

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These Austin fumble threads need more facts and more context.

He has never actually fumbled on 182 career rushes or 24 career kickoff returns. The one "fumble" he is credited with on a rushing play was not a fumble -- his knee was clearly down, and the ball went out of bounds. Since there was no turnover and no reason to challenge it, the "fumble" was never reviewed.

Also, he has three actual fumbles on his 194 career receptions. His fourth "fumble" on a reception was actually an attempted lateral pass on one of those last-second plays when the losing team is throwing the ball around hoping for a miracle. Austin's lateral was recovered by the opponent.

On his 222 fielded punts, he has muffed 13 of them (four of which resulted in a turnover). He has fumbled four times during a punt return, but none of them resulted in a turnover.

So his problem, clearly, has been only muffed punts. Once he has the ball in his hands, he is no more likely to fumble than the majority of other players.
 
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Like Austin muffing punts makes et better. Part of his supposed appeal was that he was gonna replace Switz as a punt returner. So, who's the punt returner?

That was a selling point for Austin, and basically he's just a supped up gadget guy, no? He's not a true RB, nor Slot WR.
 
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xwalker said:
Can we stop the Tavon Austin fumble narrative?

On Offense he does not have a fumble problem.

In his 5 year career he has:
On Runs: 1 fumble
On Receptions: 4 fumbles
On Punt Returns: 17 fumbles

His fumble rate on offense for his career is better than:
Zeke 2016
Dez Career
Jay Ajayi 2017

Fumble Percentage On Offense:
1.32% Tavon Austin Career
1.41% Zeke 2016
0.96% Zeke Career
2.50% Jay Ajayi 2017
1.22% Jay Ajayi Career
1.81% David Johnson Career
1.57% Tiki Barber Career
2.59% Tiki Barber 2003
1.51% Dez Career
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What's his problem on punt returns? Small hands? Catches like Twill with his body. Ball security. I see punt returns as a key roll for him with Switzer gone
 
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AdamJT13 said:
These Austin fumble threads need more facts and more context.

He has never actually fumbled on 182 career rushes or 24 career kickoff returns. The one "fumble" he is credited with on a rushing play was not a fumble -- his knee was clearly down, and the ball went out of bounds. Since there was no turnover and no reason to challenge it, the "fumble" was never reviewed.

Also, he has three actual fumbles on his 194 career receptions. His fourth "fumble" on a reception was actually an attempted lateral pass on one of those last-second plays when the losing team is throwing the ball around hoping for a miracle. Austin's lateral was recovered by the opponent.

On his 222 fielded punts, he has muffed 13 of them (four of which resulted in a turnover). He has fumbled four times during a punt return, but none of them resulted in a turnover.

So his problem, clearly, has been only muffed punts. Once he has the ball in his hands, he is no more likely to fumble than the majority of other players.
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Great info...however, the Austin detractors will not take this into account. and just keep posting the same crap. It happens to every player they want to "dislike" on.
He is the current player along with Twill, since some of them moved on from Dez.

Only if the mods can make this a MUST READ assignment to everyone. Like you you get a privacy notice thing to read from credit card companies to continue to use it. So a must read to continue your membership...:laugh:
 
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jazzcat22 said:
Great info...however, the Austin detractors will not take this into account. and just keep posting the same crap. It happens to every player they want to "dislike" on.
He is the current player along with Twill, since some of them moved on from Dez.

Only if the mods can make this a MUST READ assignment to everyone. Like you you get a privacy notice thing to read from credit card companies to continue to use it. So a must read to continue your membership...:laugh:
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Too many haters :mad:
 
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AdamJT13 said:
These Austin fumble threads need more facts and more context.

He has never actually fumbled on 182 career rushes or 24 career kickoff returns. The one "fumble" he is credited with on a rushing play was not a fumble -- his knee was clearly down, and the ball went out of bounds. Since there was no turnover and no reason to challenge it, the "fumble" was never reviewed.

Also, he has three actual fumbles on his 194 career receptions. His fourth "fumble" on a reception was actually an attempted lateral pass on one of those last-second plays when the losing team is throwing the ball around hoping for a miracle. Austin's lateral was recovered by the opponent.

On his 222 fielded punts, he has muffed 13 of them (four of which resulted in a turnover). He has fumbled four times during a punt return, but none of them resulted in a turnover.

So his problem, clearly, has been only muffed punts. Once he has the ball in his hands, he is no more likely to fumble than the majority of other players.
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I will quote this and hope some more people read this. It is what is needed to be informed when talking about Austin’s fumbling... or non-fumbling.
 
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xwalker said:
Can we stop the Tavon Austin fumble narrative?

On Offense he does not have a fumble problem.

In his 5 year career he has:
On Runs: 1 fumble
On Receptions: 4 fumbles
On Punt Returns: 17 fumbles

His fumble rate on offense for his career is better than:
Zeke 2016
Dez Career
Jay Ajayi 2017

Fumble Percentage On Offense:
1.32% Tavon Austin Career
1.41% Zeke 2016
0.96% Zeke Career
2.50% Jay Ajayi 2017
1.22% Jay Ajayi Career
1.81% David Johnson Career
1.57% Tiki Barber Career
2.59% Tiki Barber 2003
1.51% Dez Career
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17 fumbles on punt returns is pretty bad. So we don’t let him return punts. Remember the 1 fumble Switzer had in the rams game? Changed the whole game and we lost. Not blaming Switzer himself for the team loss. But.
 
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AdamJT13 said:
These Austin fumble threads need more facts and more context.

He has never actually fumbled on 182 career rushes or 24 career kickoff returns. The one "fumble" he is credited with on a rushing play was not a fumble -- his knee was clearly down, and the ball went out of bounds. Since there was no turnover and no reason to challenge it, the "fumble" was never reviewed.

Also, he has three actual fumbles on his 194 career receptions. His fourth "fumble" on a reception was actually an attempted lateral pass on one of those last-second plays when the losing team is throwing the ball around hoping for a miracle. Austin's lateral was recovered by the opponent.

On his 222 fielded punts, he has muffed 13 of them (four of which resulted in a turnover). He has fumbled four times during a punt return, but none of them resulted in a turnover.

So his problem, clearly, has been only muffed punts. Once he has the ball in his hands, he is no more likely to fumble than the majority of other players.
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Great post. Thanks for the info. I feel a little better about why JJ picked him up. No punt returns for him. Lol
 
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