TE Jake Ferguson

[Chasing6]

I think a huge year is coming for him. Teams started to double him that really affected his play, that won’t be happening with Pickens on the roster

If a huge year we will not be able to afford him, unfortunately. Our GM for some reason, likes to wait for a huge year, instead of extending them while they are more cost effective.

 

[Gambit]

The video I saw had them debating between Smith, Bergeron and LaPorta. They took Smith.

I’d call that passing on LaPorta, and Schoonmaker over Torrence as a result was the wrong call as well….but uh, wasn’t the “right scheme fit.” Booker at 12 is though. Interesting.

The debate was between Bergeron and Mazi.

New coaches new scheme means different type of player for fit.

There is not a team in the NFL who can't play same game with multiple picks over the years. This odd expectation that the Cowboys have to make every decision perfectly (usually meaning the fan giving the opinion choice of one vs the other) is quite fascinating to observe.

 

[quickccc]

He wasn't drafted to be.

If he was drafted as high as a 2nd round ( a premium pick) ..he should a featured TE.. not a backup TE.

 

[quickccc]

If a huge year we will not be able to afford him, unfortunately. Our GM for some reason, likes to wait for a huge year, instead of extending them while they are more cost effective.

If Cowboys value and want to keep Ferguson ,..they will re-sign him..
If they don't value him as one of the better TEs in the NFL, then they will let him walk and draft a TE high ...

 

[charron]

With how they have used TE's and none being elite = they are all expendable.

 

[fivetwos]

The debate was between Bergeron and Mazi.

New coaches new scheme means different type of player for fit.

There is not a team in the NFL who can't play same game with multiple picks over the years. This odd expectation that the Cowboys have to make every decision perfectly (usually meaning the fan giving the opinion choice of one vs the other) is quite fascinating to observe.

That’s fair, but at a moment in time when the big debate is who is more at fault….offense or defense…for playoff failure….I’d go front office.

No they can’t be expected to make the right call every time in a draft, and I’ve said that many times as to why they shouldnt operate that way…but they sure do seem to figure on never blowing a high pick. They go into drafts figuring to find starters at at least one or two positions, and that’s not something you don’t know.

And I’m not looking for it but LaPorta was absolutely a consideration. I was surprised and not someone I personally wanted at the time. Making a wrong call in the FO at least the same as not executing on the field, arguably much worse, but this team loses as many games in the off-season as they do during it.

 

[JoeKing]

Jake should be the beneficiary of having two WR1s. I'm looking forward to seeing how well the passing game clicks this year.

 

[Chasing6]

If Cowboys value and want to keep Ferguson ,..they will re-sign him..
If they don't value him as one of the better TEs in the NFL, then they will let him walk and draft a TE high ...

You can't have one of the better players at every position. The Cap does not allow that, especially with an irresponsible GM, who wastes more money then necessary on his star players.

 

[Chasing6]

The correct word is probably “overdrafted.”

I’d call that fair. Panic move after missing/passing on the other TEs and they were determined to get one because they like to put themselves in that position.

If replacing Schultz was that important they should have gone with LaPorta over Mazi, but since they refuse to sign decent DTs in FA, they had to force it.

Schoon filled in fine when Ferg was out last year and calling him a full bust isn’t fair, but they blew that draft overall.

Why? They force themselves to take certain positions and continue to think that’s the right way to go about roster building.

Or underutilized.

 

[Chasing6]

Jake should be the beneficiary of having two WR1s. I'm looking forward to seeing how well the passing game clicks this year.

Adding Pickens and committing more to the run, most likely translates to less targets for Ferguson.

 

[quickccc]

You can't have one of the better players at every position. The Cap does not allow that, especially with an irresponsible GM, who wastes more money then necessary on his star players.

Not about every position, it's about value and players you decide are core enuff to keep & sustain.

Does Ferguson play an impact skill position ? Can he be an impact skill position player ? .

- If Ferguson doesn't evolve into a Pro Bowl level TE, if he is just another Dalton Schultz, then yeh that' not the value
and impact warranted of being one of the highest paid TEs in the NFL .

- And pleazze spare me the cap theory. . we have seen the team cap of the NFL going up every year, and we've seen ways where it can be manipulated and spread out to accommodate the core players the club strongly prefers to re-sign.. .

 

[pancakeman]

Adding Pickens and committing more to the run, most likely translates to less targets for Ferguson.

The angle of his pie slice might get a bit smaller, but hopefully the whole offensive pie will grow

 

[big dog cowboy]

The video I saw had them debating between Smith, Bergeron and LaPorta. They took Smith.

I’d call that passing on LaPorta, and Schoonmaker over Torrence as a result was the wrong call as well

Yes they did take Smith. Not the first and won't be the last questionable draft pick they make.

Torrance wasn't ever a consideration. Cowboys didn't like him.

 

[big dog cowboy]

If he was drafted as high as a 2nd round ( a premium pick) ..he should a featured TE.. not a backup TE.

He was 5 picks away from a 3rd rounder. He is a starter in addition to being a valued special teams contributor. In fact, he might be the reason they let Ferg walk after this year.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Or underutilized.

There was a lot of that under McCarthy.

 

[quickccc]

Adding Pickens and committing more to the run, most likely translates to less targets for Ferguson.

I think the key will be when Fergy does get those targets, does get those progression read options that he break opens plays, the red zone calls - and it's not just mere dink & dunk, but plays that explode into run after catches, deep middle seams big plays and the " re-invented " red zone calls .

There are TEs that play a very key role and support to bookend TEs:

- Lions TE Sam Laporta gets ample targets, looks and touches and key plays with WRs A St. Brown & J. WIlliams

- Philly's Dallas Godert gets his share of targets & touches and big plays even though AJ Brown & Devontae Smith are the headliners.

- Miami's Jonnu Smith played up with speedsters such as Tyrek Hill & Jaylen Waddle ..

 

[quickccc]

He was 5 picks away from a 3rd rounder. He is a starter in addition to being a valued special teams contributor. In fact, he might be the reason they let Ferg walk after this year.

He's a 2nd TE ..a backup . .not a starter. And definitely not a featured TE.

When the TV telecast list and introduce the starting lineup, you see Ferguson's name & face, not Schoonmaker.

I wouldn't be surprised if a guy like Spann Ford ends up replacing Schoonmaker on the depth chart.

 

[big dog cowboy]

He's a 2nd TE ..a backup . .not a starter. And definitely not a featured TE.

Cowboys run the 12. Ferg and Schoon start. And he was not drafted to be the featured TE. He won't ever be a 70 or 80 or 90 catch a year player and he wasn't drafted to be either.

 

[quickccc]

Cowboys run the 12. Ferg and Schoon start. And he was not drafted to be the featured TE. He won't ever be a 70 or 80 or 90 catch a year player and he wasn't drafted to be either.

Fine, run the 12 personnel . But that doesn't mean you have to draft a backup, role player with a premium pick such as a 2nd rounder.

But that's water under the bridge and we're stuck with that mistake to let it run its course.
Hopefully it's a learning experience.

 

[Chasing6]

I think the key will be when Fergy does get those targets, does get those progression read options that he break opens plays, the red zone calls - and it's not just mere dink & dunk, but plays that explode into run after catches, deep middle seams big plays and the " re-invented " red zone calls .

There are TEs that play a very key role and support to bookend TEs:

- Lions TE Sam Laporta gets ample targets, looks and touches and key plays with WRs A St. Brown & J. WIlliams

- Philly's Dallas Godert gets his share of targets & touches and big plays even though AJ Brown & Devontae Smith are the headliners.

- Miami's Jonnu Smith played up with speedsters such as Tyrek Hill & Jaylen Waddle ..

If we need to keep him in to help protect our Tackles, it will keep being dink & dunk passes. If we can protect Dak without him, he can definitively get up the seem.