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FuzzyLumpkins;1983100 said:
Alright were done here.

I have been messing with you. But the part I was serious about is, Romo was not the cause for the loss, and Barber didn't choke, he got tired, and Julius did not do much for them to keep him on the field longer to give Barber enough time to rest.

When Barber ran into Davis on a cut back and he wnet to his knees, I said right then that he was tired, he would not have went down that easy if he was rested.

I believe we got away from our usual gameplan, because T.O. was not 100% and neither Glenn , so the giants started selling out to get to Romo, (they were bringing the house, LBs, Safeties, CBs, they started bringing more than we could block).

The pass to T.O. that slipped out of Romo's hand would have been a TD. Fasaon missed a TD pass, those were things that happens during games sometimes, just like Crayton dropping a those 2 passes, one which he most likely would have made it all the way to the end zone, even the route he stopped on the last 30 seconds of the game, those are all things that happens in a game.

I do not blame anyone really for that loss, in my opinion that loss was setup when the Packers got blew out by the bears, which made the Cowbys and the organization exhale and they relaxed and started celebrating a SuperBowl appearance before they actually went out and earned it.

That is how I really feel
 

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BHendri5;1983204 said:
I have been messing with you. But the part I was serious about is, Romo was not the cause for the loss, and Barber didn't choke, he got tired, and Julius did not do much for them to keep him on the field longer to give Barber enough time to rest.

When Barber ran into Davis on a cut back and he wnet to his knees, I said right then that he was tired, he would not have went down that easy if he was rested.

I believe we got away from our usual gameplan, because T.O. was not 100% and neither Glenn , so the giants started selling out to get to Romo, (they were bringing the house, LBs, Safeties, CBs, they started bringing more than we could block).

The pass to T.O. that slipped out of Romo's hand would have been a TD. Fasaon missed a TD pass, those were things that happens during games sometimes, just like Crayton dropping a those 2 passes, one which he most likely would have made it all the way to the end zone, even the route he stopped on the last 30 seconds of the game, those are all things that happens in a game.

I do not blame anyone really for that loss, in my opinion that loss was setup when the Packers got blew out by the bears, which made the Cowbys and the organization exhale and they relaxed and started celebrating a SuperBowl appearance before they actually went out and earned it.

That is how I really feel

i dont blame Barber at all. he was straight money and Garrett went away from him. Sure give him a series or two off but dont go away from what was workking oh so very well especially with the mounting pass rush.
 

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BHendri5;1983204 said:
I have been messing with you. But the part I was serious about is, Romo was not the cause for the loss, and Barber didn't choke, he got tired, and Julius did not do much for them to keep him on the field longer to give Barber enough time to rest.

When Barber ran into Davis on a cut back and he wnet to his knees, I said right then that he was tired, he would not have went down that easy if he was rested.

I believe we got away from our usual gameplan, because T.O. was not 100% and neither Glenn , so the giants started selling out to get to Romo, (they were bringing the house, LBs, Safeties, CBs, they started bringing more than we could block).

The pass to T.O. that slipped out of Romo's hand would have been a TD. Fasaon missed a TD pass, those were things that happens during games sometimes, just like Crayton dropping a those 2 passes, one which he most likely would have made it all the way to the end zone, even the route he stopped on the last 30 seconds of the game, those are all things that happens in a game.

I do not blame anyone really for that loss, in my opinion that loss was setup when the Packers got blew out by the bears, which made the Cowbys and the organization exhale and they relaxed and started celebrating a SuperBowl appearance before they actually went out and earned it.

That is how I really feel

Or how about if Henry/Hamlin/Roy tackles Toomer, forcing a punt, instead of letting him escape for a 50+ yard TD.
 

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skinsscalper;1983104 said:
Bro, I love Romo as much as the next guy, but if you think for one minute that he was playing at a high level over his last 4 games you're kidding yourself.

He had accuracy issues from the Philly game until the end. That doesn't mean he didn't throw an accurate pass during that stretch (he actually threw quite few). Unfortunately when it mattered the most, when we NEEDED him the most, he fell short. I won't go way out there and lay the entire loss on Romo. As TO said it was a TEAM loss and I believe that wholeheartedly. Romo is a part of the team and his shortcomings had as much to do with losing as the o-line's, secondary's, and Crayton. That game should have been sealed by half time, PART of the reason it wasn't was because Romo BADLY missed a wide open TO. The result? A FG instead of a TD. That play was as pivotal as any other in the game. And it lands squarely on Romo. Spin it any way you want to but nothing that can ever be typed will change that FACT.

It's hard to fault Romo for one missed play when we watched him pull play after play out of nowhere when there was absolutely nothing there. ONE MISSED play out of a highlight reel of a year. It's a tough pill to swallow, but it doesn't change anything. I hope Romo finds a way to settle himself in these big games (playoffs) and play like "Tony Romo". The cold hard truth is that in two playoff games Romo has had apart in killing us with inconsistent play. Everyone on this board (including myself, admittedly ) was all over Parcells' case after the Seattle game because he wasn't "tearing up that inexperienced Seattle secondary". If you've got the game taped or have access to it, watch it again. Romo was absolutely AWFUL with is accuracy in the beginning of that game. Parcells had little choice. He had to go with the safe route before Romo passed the game away. If you don't think Romo is capable of that, go back and watch the Buffalo game. Yes, we won the game and Romo played a big part in putting us in position to do so. But, we had some VERY lucky breaks in that game and without them we would have gotten absolutely killled and it would have fallen squarely on Romo.

As I stated before, I absolutely LOVE this kid. I haven't been as excited about a Dallas player since the triplets. That doesn't mean that he walks on water. He has his warts, and unfortunately they appear at the WORST possible time.

I took the Buffalo game with a grain of salt. You cannot expect your QB to not have a bad game or two during the season. I think we all can agree on this, the Boys may have been overlooking the buffalo, because we had the pats the very next game.

Buffalo was a better team than what their record was, and their defense played great.
It is all a learning process for Romo. People think that he was instantly going to take us to the SB, I was hoping that would happen, but I knew it would not. I knew he would have to take his lumps before we got to the promise land. It seems other teams can get their QBs and they reach the SB right off the bat, and then their QBs take their lumps, but they never reach the SB again, our QBs always seem to take their lumps first and get to the SB more than once
 

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Mr Cowboy;1983220 said:
Or how about if Henry/Hamlin/Roy tackles Toomer, forcing a punt, instead of letting him escape for a 50+ yard TD.

TRUE! what about if our 3rd CB locks down Steve Smith at least half of those 3rd downs he converted into first downs.

I am still mad that we did not draft Steve Smith, we had the opportunity, he was still on the board. He was the better receiver on USC, not Jarrett.
 

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FuzzyLumpkins;1983213 said:
i dont blame Barber at all. he was straight money and Garrett went away from him. Sure give him a series or two off but dont go away from what was workking oh so very well especially with the mounting pass rush.

One thing I have to admit, the giants win those type of games like that. They cannot win those fast paced games like our first 2 games.
While watching the SB, I kept saying that the pats had better change the pace of the game, but they never did if they could, and they suffered the lost. Plus they were playing a team that came from the battle tested NFC east.
 

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We have needed offense for years and last year the offense let us down after looking like they were going to break some records. The last few games were awful.

On the other hand we definitely have to improve on defense. And although we could improve on the DL with a better pass rush and better ILB play, it's obvious we have problems at DB. Don't know what you can do but hope RW plays better and we have some upside from Watkins when talking about safety. Not saying we couldn't take a safety/CB like Ross last year but that is not nearly as likely as going after CB in the draft. We have to have some better CB play and don't even have a 3rd CB on the roster that's proven or has any experience. We aren't likely to get what we want with a rookie. But rookie CBs who are very good can do well in their first year.

So I see us going after CBs over WRs but I don't see us making poor decisions when it comes time to pick. I suspect if a WR is a good bit higher on our board than a CB is then we take him. If they are pretty close I see us going CB first.

Picking up a FA WR is a good idea. I'd be surprised if we didn't throw some bucks at one of the better FA WRs. I'd actually be upset about it.
If TO and Glenn are healthy much of the year we will be ok. TG has not lost it IMO. He just needs a good camp. However, we would be foolish not go after another good WR than can help. Since rookie WRs don't often help a lot the first year then we had better hope TG plays well and TO stays healthy. If Stanback breaks out then great. We'll be unstoppable. It doesn't hurt to fill the roster with players who make plays.

If you are a SB team and we are then you fill as many holes as you can in FA then shore up the rest with the draft. Then hope injuries don't kill you. You try an improve the team as much as possible while looking ahead to the future while minding the cap.
 

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skinsscalper;1983104 said:
Bro, I love Romo as much as the next guy, but if you think for one minute that he was playing at a high level over his last 4 games you're kidding yourself.

He had accuracy issues from the Philly game until the end. That doesn't mean he didn't throw an accurate pass during that stretch (he actually threw quite few). Unfortunately when it mattered the most, when we NEEDED him the most, he fell short. I won't go way out there and lay the entire loss on Romo. As TO said it was a TEAM loss and I believe that wholeheartedly. Romo is a part of the team and his shortcomings had as much to do with losing as the o-line's, secondary's, and Crayton. That game should have been sealed by half time, PART of the reason it wasn't was because Romo BADLY missed a wide open TO. The result? A FG instead of a TD. That play was as pivotal as any other in the game. And it lands squarely on Romo. Spin it any way you want to but nothing that can ever be typed will change that FACT.

It's hard to fault Romo for one missed play when we watched him pull play after play out of nowhere when there was absolutely nothing there. ONE MISSED play out of a highlight reel of a year. It's a tough pill to swallow, but it doesn't change anything. I hope Romo finds a way to settle himself in these big games (playoffs) and play like "Tony Romo". The cold hard truth is that in two playoff games Romo has had apart in killing us with inconsistent play. Everyone on this board (including myself, admittedly ) was all over Parcells' case after the Seattle game because he wasn't "tearing up that inexperienced Seattle secondary". If you've got the game taped or have access to it, watch it again. Romo was absolutely AWFUL with is accuracy in the beginning of that game. Parcells had little choice. He had to go with the safe route before Romo passed the game away. If you don't think Romo is capable of that, go back and watch the Buffalo game. Yes, we won the game and Romo played a big part in putting us in position to do so. But, we had some VERY lucky breaks in that game and without them we would have gotten absolutely killled and it would have fallen squarely on Romo.

As I stated before, I absolutely LOVE this kid. I haven't been as excited about a Dallas player since the triplets. That doesn't mean that he walks on water. He has his warts, and unfortunately they appear at the WORST possible time.



Absolutely 100% correct. This has to be nominated for the most rational post ever. I could not agree more. This board has to be the most ridiculous thing ever when discussing Romo. Most of us are so excited to have a QB that can do the things that Tony can do (when he is on), that we automatically annoint him as the absolute answer. The facts are that he is no more a sure lock as the franchise QB than any other second teir QB in the league. He is not on par with Brady, Manning, etc. He is more of the Hasselback type QB at this point. Really good at times and really bad at the most inopportune times.

The facts are he is nothing more than a stat machine so far. He HAS to win a playoff game to validate anything that is being said about him as a franchise QB. Facts are he has NEVER won a playoff game at any level of his football career, but has set numerous statistical records at the D-2 level.

And Fuzzy is correct in that the last two years he has faded mightly when the season was winding down and the playoff pressure was winding up. In fact he looked like two different QBs in both seasons once December arrived.
You can bash on Crayton all you want about the dropped pass over the middle. He should have caught it, no doubt, but there was no guarantee that he would have scored on that play. The defender was not that far behing him. Also, the "quitting on the route" play at the end might not have been a sure touchdown either. The coverage wasn't that bad either and if memory serves me the pass actually landed on the back line of the endzone which would have made for a spectacular catch for him to keep both feet in anyway.

The real reason we lost was our offensive ineffectiveness at the end of the game. We have three drives into Giants territory that came away with 0 points in the last 7 minutes of the game. 2 drives in the last 3 minutes. Two of the drives ended in failed 3rd down conversions and the last was an interception.

Did Romo lose the game for us by himself? No. But he didn't win the game for us either. He was rather impotent when the game mattered most. Same as the year before and unfortunately will probably be the same next year.
 

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We need CB, WR, S, DE if you are talking positions where starting spots will come available fairly soon and seem to be bereft of the players to take those roles.

Henry misses about 4 or 5 games per year and could use a solid backup that can be the nickel guy right now. CB is a need for sure with our depth all being un-signed and 1 starter of advanced age and the other nearing free agency.

Heck, I'd grab 2 CBs out of this class.

WR is probably the strongest need but this is a weak class for the position in the early rounds.

We haven't drafted offense high but we have a youngish QB and a young Rb who both made the Pro Bowl. 3 of our OL made the Pro Bowl and 2 of the WRs. We have a really strong offense lead by Romo, Witten and Barber for the foreseeable future. We need to add another Wr who can one day replace T.O. and can at least complement him now.

As long as we do not draft a first round linebacker I will not injure anyone.
 
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