Teams think we're soft!

[Deep_Freeze]

I don't see how anyone's being a homer here

Blindly arguing a point just cause he is a Cowboy is being a homer.

Everyone knows our D is a good candidate for "Sportsmans of the year" Wish we had a bad egg.

 

[Rack]

I guess I could repost this....since it's obvious noone read it the first time.

Arizona found this out in week 8. The Cardinals had already played the Giants, Seahawks and Panthers, so they had been physically tested, but they came through those games with their mental toughness intact. After playing Dallas, however, the Cardinals admitted they were dominated and manhandled by a tougher team. It was so bad that Arizona benched their quarterback and a number of their offensive linemen and blockers after the game.

Detroit also found out how tough playing Dallas can be. The Lioins had earlier battles with tough teams, including a hard-hitting Baltimore squad that tried to intimidate the Lions but came up short. Dallas overpowered the Lions so badly that the Silver and Blue gave up on their head coach during the game.

It wasn’t just the cellar-dwellers who said this. Trent Green of the Chiefs said that he held onto the loss to the Cowboys a bit longer than he would usually hang onto a loss. In addition, the Chiefs defense was so worn out after the game they could barely muster the effort to tackle Tiki Barber the next week. That game wasn’t a physical domination by Dallas, but it was additional evidence that no team was going to come out of a game versus the Cowboys without having their psyche tested.
– Dallas Cowboys team summary, Scientific Football 2006

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Blindly arguing a point just cause he is a Cowboy is being a homer.

no it's not, because non-Cowboy fans say that Roy is a mean S.O.B.

sometimes I too wish we had a bad egg, but that is furthest down the list for me, we got much bigger, tangible, things to worry about that affect games even more

if you play good football, execute, limit mistakes, you can win just as many games as showboating and stomping on people will

 

[Vertigo_17]

I don't have proof, but it just seems to me that teams don't respect us as men. I mentioned this last season after the Washington game. The game when Witten got a cheap shot from LB (Washington) on our sideline and nobody fought back. I was afraid of this and thats why I loved the Carpenter pick, because he plays with fire. What good does that do, when he doesn't play at all. No disrespect to Ellis, because I like him at OLB, but we just have enough guys that play with fire. We have too many nice guys.

Nice Guys-
Ellis
Fergy (comedian)
Roy
Ware
Spears
Canty
Ayodele ?
Tnew
Flo
JJ
Gurode (Haynesworth punked him)
Rivera
Watkins
Bledsoe
and too many others to mentions

Guys with mean streaks all the time -
Burnett
Columbo
Davis
Henry
James
Barber
TO

Guys, we don't have enough mean *** mofos at leadership positions. We are soft and it shows!

Yeah Ferguson is a real softie. Taking on two OL on every single play (ever watch what goes on the the trenches) is really weak. Just because they don't act like thugs or over-celebrate every tackle doesn't make them soft.

They just need to focus on the scheme and making the play? That's what needs to be fixed.

 

[peplaw06]

Blindly arguing a point just cause he is a Cowboy is being a homer.

Everyone knows our D is a good candidate for "Sportsmans of the year" Wish we had a bad egg.

I don't see where you're getting this idea that all of our guys are nice guys out there on the field. Who brianwashed you into believing that?

Is it because you don't see our LBs doing a bullrush dance when they make a tackle after the RB gains 20 yards? Is it because you don't hear wailing and gnashing of teeth? Is it that they actually are good guys off the field?

You used the fire and emotion line to criticize Ware, well I remember two plays specifically where he's shown some emotion this season. the sack on Brunell and the tackle on Reggie Bush in the flats.

Then you try to translate that lack of fire into the rest of the defense when I don't see it. Unless you think they have to dance and celebrate to be emotional.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I don't see where you're getting this idea that all of our guys are nice guys out there on the field. Who brianwashed you into believing that?

it's something he sees on his TV screen

 

[Rack]

I don't see where you're getting this idea that all of our guys are nice guys out there on the field. Who brianwashed you into believing that?

Is it because you don't see our LBs doing a bullrush dance when they make a tackle after the RB gains 20 yards? Is it because you don't hear wailing and gnashing of teeth? Is it that they actually are good guys off the field?

You used the fire and emotion line to criticize Ware, well I remember two plays specifically where he's shown some emotion this season. the sack on Brunell and the tackle on Reggie Bush in the flats.

Then you try to translate that lack of fire into the rest of the defense when I don't see it. Unless you think they have to dance and celebrate to be emotional.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

no it's not, because non-Cowboy fans say that Roy is a mean S.O.B.

sometimes I too wish we had a bad egg, but that is furthest down the list for me, we got much bigger, tangible, things to worry about that affect games even more

if you play good football, execute, limit mistakes, you can win just as many games as showboating and stomping on people will

You know I haven't said anything about stepping on people, that is too far of course.

I think you understand what I am saying, and I understand that you are saying we have more important things to worry about. My only holdup with that thought is that when things look bleak, that is when you need that emotional leader to step up and fire the team up again.

There are countless times Irvin did this for us, and he wasn't even on D. I wish TO would do it in a more constructive way, he has fire, but he criticizes people too harshly, instead of encouraging them.

Do we need one?? Well, I know we don't have a visible one on D, maybe there is one in the huddle that we don't hear. Least I hope there is.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

My only holdup with that thought is that when things look bleak, that is when you need that emotional leader to step up and fire the team up again.

wouldn't it just be better if we were a better team?

 

[Deep_Freeze]

wouldn't it just be better if we were a better team?

I believe having that leader is what would make us a better team on D.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I believe having that leader is what would make us a better team on D.

but like you said, what if that leader is already in the huddle? sometimes being a leader is just about acting upon it, saying very few words, people just know, and respond readily

 

[Sasquatch]

I love the thread title, combined with the first sentence. Classic stuff.

My sentiments exactly.

 

[Deep_Freeze]

I don't see where you're getting this idea that all of our guys are nice guys out there on the field. Who brianwashed you into believing that?

Is it because you don't see our LBs doing a bullrush dance when they make a tackle after the RB gains 20 yards? Is it because you don't hear wailing and gnashing of teeth? Is it that they actually are good guys off the field?

You used the fire and emotion line to criticize Ware, well I remember two plays specifically where he's shown some emotion this season. the sack on Brunell and the tackle on Reggie Bush in the flats.

Then you try to translate that lack of fire into the rest of the defense when I don't see it. Unless you think they have to dance and celebrate to be emotional.

Football is a game of emotion. If you don't know that, you have never played football on a high level. The Saints are proving this thoery, they don't have alot of talent, but emotion has carried them.

Why would the Hogs come in and destroy the number 2 team in the nation at Auburn, after getting killed by USC.

Emotion.

Pro football is just a job to some of these guys, really. But if you stir up some of their emotions, then you can be the Saints.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

btw Deep

TO was shouting encouragement on the sidelines, isn't that what Michael Irvin did?

 

[Deep_Freeze]

btw Deep

TO was shouting encouragement on the sidelines, isn't that what Michael Irvin did?

TO is my boy, but the problem with TO is not all of what is going to come out of his mouth going to be positive.

Irvin would demand the ball, and such, but he would never degrade the people around him.

TO will demand the ball, and he will make sure you know who he thinks is at fault and who is horrible in his opinion. TO is just too honest and candid sometimes, which can hurt more than help. Sometimes you have to focus on the few positive things they do to get them to be better.

TO will put the knife in and twist it, lol. Irvin was not that way.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

notice I said "encouragement"? he was trying to fire the O up, just like our boy Mike used to do

well at least we got one fiery, emotional player

 

[Deep_Freeze]

notice I said "encouragement"? he was trying to fire the O up, just like our boy Mike used to do

well at least we got one fiery, emotional player

Yeah, I just know with TO, if things are going bad, he might say something he shouldn't. Plus, with all of the "crazy" talk, it lessens the effect of him doing this. In other words, people tune him out cause they think he is nuts.

Course, as that stuff fades and he gets closer to his teamates, they will listen more.

If you notice, when the team was together in that circle with hands in the middle, TO was the one talking. "This ain't about me, its about us".

That is a place where the emotional leader of a team is the one that talks. Irvin and sometimes Emmitt did that all the time while they were here.

 

[peplaw06]

Football is a game of emotion. If you don't know that, you have never played football on a high level. The Saints are proving this thoery, they don't have alot of talent, but emotion has carried them.

Why would the Hogs come in and destroy the number 2 team in the nation at Auburn, after getting killed by USC.

Emotion.

Pro football is just a job to some of these guys, really. But if you stir up some of their emotions, then you can be the Saints.

You didn't answer the question... How do you know that the Cowboys D doesn't play with emotion? IMO you think that because they're not dancing out there after a tackle.

Did the Hogs dance on the field when beating Auburn, is that why you say they play with emotion? If not, what did they do that the Cowboys don't?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

there's always a risk w/ TO, but I think he's being genuine

how long that will last? one only knows, but I will enjoy a behaved TO as long as I can...just hope he can start making a bigger impact, for whatever that reason is

 

[Deep_Freeze]

You didn't answer the question... How do you know that the Cowboys D doesn't play with emotion? IMO you think that because they're not dancing out there after a tackle.

Did the Hogs dance on the field when beating Auburn, is that why you say they play with emotion? If not, what did they do that the Cowboys don't?

Nutt ran up and started leading the band, singing the fight song afterward, and jumping up and down all game. Its contigeous, the rest of the team looking fired up. But that is college, its different, you don't have to have that extreme. Side note, could you picture Bill doing that............nevermind, don't, lol.

The reason why I think we aren't playing with much is cause we aren't playing well below our talent level. When that happens, alot of times, you are sleepwalking. Sure, I don't have a crystal ball, I don't KNOW for 100% certainity, noone does, but I do think it could be part of it. My point is they "look" like a team going through the motions.

Other things that could cause you to play below your talent level, well, coaching. It can be easily said that a defense takes on the personality of their coach. Maybe if we had a firey DC, then the defense would play with more fire.

It is just a feeling I get from watching the game. Like guys are just punching the clock, doing their job, and going home. That is a bit extreme, but you can see my point. Maybe it is the players, maybe it is the coach, but it is probably some of both.

there's always a risk w/ TO, but I think he's being genuine

how long that will last? one only knows, but I will enjoy a behaved TO as long as I can...just hope he can start making a bigger impact, for whatever that reason is

Agreed. He will behave ok, I just hope we win, to make sure he is ok. There are only two things that mess him up, losing and not getting paid (with him, that money means respect).