Teams think we're soft!

[50cent]

We aren't seeing it too differently, do you think this D has played up to its potential?? I don't think so, whether it is coaching or the players, it is probably both. Our DC is sitting and waiting for the offense to make a mistake, instead of causing the mistake.

That does make the team have a tendency to look tame.



Nice Post.

Now how can I listen to a person whose favorite player is Terry Glenn, preach about toughness..........just kidding, lol, she is tough.......sometimes

All kidding aside, I still think some of you are pointing to the wrong terms. 50 cent put words out there such as "soft", or not "tough", but those are not the correct words, and I don't think they have much merit. What I think he means is what I'm talking about, an emotional leader.

A guy that wears his passion on his sleeve. A guy that pumps you up watching him, and you are just sitting on your couch. A guy that makes you want to punch a hole in your table, opps, sorry Rack, that was done out of anger right?

Irvin did that. There are a few that do it in this league, and alot of them have a tendency to be leading some of the top defenses. That is not a coincidence.

No, I know exactly what I'm trying to say. They are nice guy, but aren't TOUGH. Teams think they can run all over us in tough games and we will back down. I'm being dead serious! I can remember the last game we won when it was a physical struggle between both teams. It was the Christmas Carolina game. Besides that, we always seem to wilt to more physical teams. Hence lack of toughness. Its easy to be more physical with the Cardinals and last years Chiefs, but when someone else hits us in the mouth, we seem to fold. You don't have to agree, but until we start to show that we won't wilt to tougher teams, we're in trouble.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Teams think they can run all over us in tough games and we will back down.

To prove that you'd need either player quotes, or some physical evidence of disdain, ie sneers, sarcasm, or even better, coming out on the field flat because they expect to face a bunch of pansies.

I've seen no evidence any team doesn't take the Cowboys seriously.

 

[50cent]

To prove that you'd need either player quotes, or some physical evidence of disdain, ie sneers, sarcasm, or even better, coming out on the field flat because they expect to face a bunch of pansies.

I've seen no evidence any team doesn't take the Cowboys seriously.

La, I respect your opinion, but we both know that there isn't a player in the league thats going to come out and say that the Boys are soft. I only go by what I see during games when our players are confronted by other players. I have given examples, but this isn't a I'm wrong, no your wrong thread. I see too many times our guys back down from opposing players. Thats what I see. As I stated before, I have no proof, but actions speak very loud. The last time I saw us stand up and defend one another was last Christmas vs Carolina, but I can't remember another game in awhile.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

La, I respect your opinion, but we both know that there isn't a player in the league thats going to come out and say that the Boys are soft. I only go by what I see during games when our players are confronted by other players. I have given examples, but this isn't a I'm wrong, no your wrong thread. I see too many times our guys back down from opposing players. Thats what I see. As I stated before, I have no proof, but actions speak very loud. The last time I saw us stand up and defend one another was last Christmas vs Carolina, but I can't remember another game in awhile.

OK, even if I don't believe you're assessing the situation correctly, I do respect your take.

But do this please... the next time you see one of our guys "back down", please point it out sometime the following week.

PS I think the Haynesworth thing, when obviously the potential witnesses were in front of the stomp with their backs to it (aka JJ's wiggle TD dance), might be contributing to the 'backdown idea'....but no one realized what had happened and Dre's subdued/mature/stunned behavior didn't even alert the team anything more serious than an accidental bloody nose might have occurred.

 

[50cent]

OK, even if I don't believe you're assessing the situation correctly, I do respect your take.

But do this please... the next time you see one of our guys "back down", please point it out sometime the following week.

PS I think the Haynesworth thing, when obviously the potential witnesses were in front of the stomp with their backs to it (aka JJ's wiggle TD dance), might be contributing to the 'backdown idea'....but no one realized what had happened and Dre's subdued/mature/stunned behavior didn't even alert the team anything more serious than an accidental bloody nose might have occurred.

Oh no, I excused the rest of the guys for the same reason. I too believe they were not aware of what happened so no one could help. I agree with that situation. I don't feel the same about Gurode's reaction though. He should have made a bee-line to Haynesworth instantly. Bloodshed or no blood, get up and make someone pay for Haynesworth actions. One example, Washington's hit on Witten last season at Wash. Another play that sticks out to me is a play on RW highlight film. Roy makes a hit on a kickoff vs. the Giants. Brandon Jacobs horsecollars Roy on the tackle. Roy gets up throwing Jacobs arm off of him in disguist. If the vidoe plays out a little longer, Jacobs confronts Roy and Roy turns the other cheek. Guys sense this and thats why I say teams notice too. I will point this out in other games.

P.S. - Remember when the Skins had the Smurf's and they would celebrate in the end zone? I remember guys like Walls, Thurman and others, say not in our house. These guys weren't thugs, just guys that had pride. It still burns me to see T.O. catch a touchdown with Philly and watch TNew(my fav. Boy) watch T.O step on the star in the endzone, open his arms, and not get in his face.

 

[rlgiv]

I don't have proof, but it just seems to me that teams don't respect us as men. I mentioned this last season after the Washington game. The game when Witten got a cheap shot from LB (Washington) on our sideline and nobody fought back. I was afraid of this and thats why I loved the Carpenter pick, because he plays with fire. What good does that do, when he doesn't play at all. No disrespect to Ellis, because I like him at OLB, but we just have enough guys that play with fire. We have too many nice guys.

Nice Guys-
Ellis
Fergy (comedian)
Roy
Ware
Spears
Canty
Ayodele ?
Tnew
Flo
JJ
Gurode (Haynesworth punked him)
Rivera
Watkins
Bledsoe
and too many others to mentions

Guys with mean streaks all the time -
Burnett
Columbo
Davis
Henry
James
Barber
TO

Guys, we don't have enough mean *** mofos at leadership positions. We are soft and it shows!

Maybe we should trade for Haynesworth after he gets off his suspension. I bet he is buddies with Pac Man Jones. He is a thug, that would make us tougher right?

Derek Ross is available we would be tougher if we got him?


Thats just crazy. Being an A-hole or a loud person on the field has nothing to do with your game intensity or how well you perform.

 

[conner01]

kicking a guy in the face when he's down on the ground really shows how tough you are

 

[jrumann59]

I guess you were never taught, "It takes more of amn to walk away" then to do the irrational thing like try an attempt to pummel a behemoth like Haynesworth with one good eye. Give me your address 50Cent and let me cleat you in the face and lets see how effective your toughness is then. Your argument is feeble, and your point is lost.

 

[Rampage]

we are soft. overhyped and overrated too.

 

[peplaw06]

we are soft. overhyped and overrated too.

Well then your boy ain't so "big" and "bad" I don't guess.

 

[Rampage]

Well then your boy ain't so "big" and "bad" I don't guess.

not if he keeps playing as poorly as he did on sunday

 

[peplaw06]

not if he keeps playing as poorly as he did on sunday

So do you think he's soft? Or do you think he had a bad game... because soft isn't something that changes from week to week.

 

[Rampage]

So do you think he's soft? Or do you think he had a bad game... because soft isn't something that changes from week to week.

i don't think he is soft. i think he had a bad game along with a lot of other guys. but i do think we are overhyped and overrated

 

[jrumann59]

Being soft has nothing to do with being out of position. Being tough is taking the best a better team has and still be there in the end when the dust settles. Being tough is spotting a good team 10 points in 5 minutes and still having the guts to play and keep it even to the end. Tough isn't who can beat, punch, or stomp some defenseless person on the ground. Being tough is taking it in the arse even when you know its going to hurt. So we have nice guys on the team, they are professionals, when did the thug mindset invade sports. There are plenty of nice guys that are tough, and there are plenty of mean and nasty guys that aren't tough, Lavar arrington is n't tough but he is nasty. Chuck Norris whom I have met personally is nice guy but I sure as hell don't want to piss him off in a dark alley.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Being tough is taking it in the arse even when you know its going to hurt.

That should effectively end this thread.

 

[peplaw06]

That should effectively end this thread.

Thank God... This thread should have ended long ago.

 

[jrumann59]

That should effectively end this thread.

Does that mean I am headed for a ban.

 

[LaTunaNostra]

Does that mean I am headed for a ban.

No, it means you're headed for a thank you.

 

[Sarge]

If anything is soft, it's a good number of posters on this board.

I've never seen so many nervous nellies in one place before.

Pitiful.

Ya, well thank God you're here to toughen things up a bit.

 

[Rampage]

Ya, well thank God you're here to toughen things up a bit.