Ten things you might not know about Will McClay

[Vintage]

No

Agreed.

 

[Risen Star]

I'm still waiting for someone to present a case that Larry Lacewell isn't Jeff Ireland.

These personal attacks need to end. Now.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Sometimes being on ignore is good

 

[darthseinfeld]

Anywho.....

With McClay we have some savy budget moves in FA and pulled some usuable players off nowhere, hell it wouldnt even surprise me of Mayowa turns out to be a solid player.

But our drafts of late have been very shallow and its something we are going to pay the price for down the line.

 

[Alexander]

Larry Lacewell.

Jeff Ireland.

Same thing.

 

[dantheman41]

McClay has been a godsend for this team... Hope he sticks around for a while. Nice bridge from coaches to scouts

 

[CCBoy]

Picking up the discussion of Larry Lacewell:




Lacewell began his coaching career as a graduate assistant for Bear Bryant at the University of Alabama. He coached at Arkansas State, Arkansas A&M, Kilgore Junior College (which won NJCAA National Football Championship during his tenure), Wichita State and Iowa State, before becoming defensive coordinator at Oklahoma in 1970. Lacewell became assistant head coach under Barry Switzer in 1973, and the teams won two national championships in the ensuing years.


1992–2004Dallas Cowboys (Director of college and pro scouting )

Those were his credentials, but that didn't negatively impart something onto a generalized sense of ability in Jerry. Egos were a relevant part of NFL life when Jerry entered the picture. Jerry studied and investigated for about eight years before he even attempted to get serious about purchase of the Dallas Cowboys. Lacewell did have a working relationship with both Jimmy Johnson and Jerry Jones. He and Jimmy had an immediate knowledge of collegiate player in that time period. His contributions were relevant, as were Ireland following that period.

This is a positive view of leadership, direction, and developing analysis and how scouting has progressed as well.

Jerry had a group of veteran observers in the NFL, that he often questioned and sought imput from...as he does today.

 

[Frosty]

I like the continuity McClay brings and he certainly seems to have a football mind (something the Jones boys need), but he is not beyond reproach. I think it's important this team takes on the "what have you done for me lately" approach to every position, whether it is players or personnel. The draft is important every year, but the Cowboys have really put all their eggs in one basket this year, so McClay needs to knock the 2016 draft out of the park. If he can do that, the Cowboys will be set, but may have a hard time keeping him.

I hear what you are saying but who is responsible for the lack of talent on this team....

Cmike
Butler
Gregory
Wilcox
Chaz Green
Swain

I see Mclay bringing in JAGS instead of top talent. The 2015 season exposed a serious lack of talent on the Cowboys. Just look at the current state of the DL. This team was a mess in 2015 and doesn't look like they willing to add any new talent in 2016

 

[CCBoy]

I hear what you are saying but who is responsible for the lack of talent on this team....

Cmike
Butler
Gregory
Wilcox
Chaz Green
Swain

I see Mclay bringing in JAGS instead of top talent. The 2015 season exposed a serious lack of talent on the Cowboys. Just look at the current state of the DL. This team is a mess

DL: Defensive Ends (projected starters) DeMarcus Lawrence and Randy Gregory

Defensive Tackles (projected starters) Tyrone Crawford and Cedric Thornton

Depth provided, prior to draft, by David Irving, Benson Mayowa, Ryan Russell, Chris Waley

Add in a defensive end and defensive tackle that are contributors coming in, and Marinelli has a hustle group with pretty good talent, and NFL experience also.

There is talent in that group, not a large amount of accumulated injury. They have a lot of upside, actually.

Bosa/Buckner/Spence and outside is solid. Then a strong defensive tackle, and I, at least, am not disappointed in directions. I know the cap won't be crippled through that group's growth. And the draft will have been used for major projected contributors.

Until drafted players reach the three year point, I won't be among those continually howling at the moon.

That's upon your highlighted example...but as to the others, they have shown NFL levels of talent and have to grow. Just how many starters are you expecting in the first three years after a draft or player's acquisition is sufficient, without describing attributes and what each does bring to the table.

Oh, it's much easier to name call, but hollow in function...

 

[Risen Star]

McClay has been a godsend for this team... Hope he sticks around for a while. Nice bridge from coaches to scouts

I thank God every day for all this talent.

Who knows where we'd be without McClay? Top 5 in the draft? Or am I exaggerating?

 

[jobberone]

Ok guys knock it off, please.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Those are expected, CCBoy. They were all high draft picks. Gregory is TBA....

Great personal guys are the ones who find hidden gems in rounds 4-7. So far, McClay has not found many but he has to be given time for his picks to prove themselves. Tick tock...the clock is ticking....

I don't know what great personnel guys you guys are referring too but no one consistently finds players in rounds 4 through 7.

 

[jobberone]

I don't know what great personnel guys you guys are referring too but no one consistently finds players in rounds 4 through 7.

Thank you!

 

[Frosty]

I don't know what great personnel guys you guys are referring too but no one consistently finds players in rounds 4 through 7.

What players have the Cowboys drafted rounds 4-7 are starting for the Cowboys or are difference makers. Most are backups and role players at best. It's time for Mclay to show he can find top talent not just JAGS.

 

[Frosty]

DL: Defensive Ends (projected starters) DeMarcus Lawrence and Randy Gregory

Defensive Tackles (projected starters) Tyrone Crawford and Cedric Thornton

Depth provided, prior to draft, by David Irving, Benson Mayowa, Ryan Russell, Chris Waley

Add in a defensive end and defensive tackle that are contributors coming in, and Marinelli has a hustle group with pretty good talent, and NFL experience also.

There is talent in that group, not a large amount of accumulated injury. They have a lot of upside, actually.

Bosa/Buckner/Spence and outside is solid. Then a strong defensive tackle, and I, at least, am not disappointed in directions. I know the cap won't be crippled through that group's growth. And the draft will have been used for major projected contributors.

Until drafted players reach the three year point, I won't be among those continually howling at the moon.

That's upon your highlighted example...but as to the others, they have shown NFL levels of talent and have to grow. Just how many starters are you expecting in the first three years after a draft or player's acquisition is sufficient, without describing attributes and what each does bring to the table.

Oh, it's much easier to name call, but hollow in function...

Understand your thought on the draft...but look at the acquisition, production, an cost of players like Hardy, CMIKE, Butler, Turbin and the turnover of CBs last year. Nothing panned out, i.e. Cmike is back in Seattle, Take away Romo or Dez again in 2016 and this team will draft top 5 again.

 

[Alexander]

I don't know what great personnel guys you guys are referring too but no one consistently finds players in rounds 4 through 7.

True, but hitting on just a few of those types of players periodically is the difference between a GM (or in this case facilitator) keeping their job or getting fired. A "find" in the middle rounds is what forges reputation. That has not happened yet.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

I hear what you are saying but who is responsible for the lack of talent on this team....

Cmike
Butler
Gregory
Wilcox
Chaz Green
Swain

I see Mclay bringing in JAGS instead of top talent. The 2015 season exposed a serious lack of talent on the Cowboys. Just look at the current state of the DL. This team was a mess in 2015 and doesn't look like they willing to add any new talent in 2016

Remmeber when we went 12-4 and then won the offseason bringing in 3 first round talents and signing the top free agent on the market in Greg Hardy?

How'd that translate into success last year? Oh wait... This was a talented team that couldn't cope with losing its two best offensive players and it's best secondary player.

Stop worrying about winning in March and remember this ball club is better than last year showed.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

True, but hitting on just a few of those types of players periodically is the difference between a GM (or in this case facilitator) keeping their job or getting fired. A "find" in the middle rounds is what forges reputation. That has not happened yet.

No its not. I'd wager to day you haven't looked at what keeps a good GM at any other team. You just assume that the grass is greener.... Um... Somewhere.

It isn't.

What gets a GM fired is when they bungle the qb position. Not whether they get lucky on a 7th rounder.

 

[Toruk_Makto]

What players have the Cowboys drafted rounds 4-7 are starting for the Cowboys or are difference makers. Most are backups and role players at best. It's time for Mclay to show he can find top talent not just JAGS.

You want top talent in the later rounds. Sounds reasonable.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

I don't know what great personnel guys you guys are referring too but no one consistently finds players in rounds 4 through 7.

Did anyone (me) reference a great personnel guy? I think not. However, if McClay is a great personnel guy, he will find gems in rounds 4-7. Otherwise, he is just another personnel guy. No more, no less.