Terence Newman

[Beast_from_East]

Just like in the Saints game, Newman was totally beat deep for a huge gainer late in the 4th quarter.


Thank God Rexasaurus just horribly underthrew the ball, Brees would have thrown a strike and we most likely would have lost the game.


Just saying.

 

[jobberone]

this is not a great logical post.

we have the 4th cb on the roster that we would have kept out of camp... mccann.

almost every nfl player is banged up this deep into a season and tnew is always banged up. has been for a few seasons. you don't play at his size and retain great health week in and week out.

He's been beat up to the point he shouldn't have been playing. Of course he was because there was no one else to put in the game that could play as well as even a very beat up player. What part of that is not logical? And don't tell me Ball can be the 4th CB. Because that requires replacing your starting CB then replacing your starting FS. They gambled and lost on the three CBs. It was a decision of poor judgment. We also should have shopped around for a backup or starting safety to fit in with Ball and Sensi.

 

[jobberone]

Was Newman even listed as questionable on the injury report? Of course he's banged up a little - everyone is. I never have understood how fans of a particular player can make excuses for that player based on being bumped and bruised late in the year while ignoring that every player is bumped and bruised late in the year.

I'm not making excuses for Newman. He shouldn't have been playing he was so beat up. There was no one else to put in who was even close to a very beat up Newman. If you think he was 'normally' nicked up you haven't been following closely enough. BTW, you don't leave camp with 3 CBs. It was a poor decision.

 

[Idgit]

I think some have finally started coming to grips that Newman has slowed down alot and is becoming a liability.

I think you and ninja are just patting yourselves on your backs again. And you still don't know what you're looking at when it comes to how our CBs play.

 

[KJJ]

I think you and ninja are just patting yourselves on your backs again. And you still don't know what you're looking at when it comes to how our CBs play.

Neither ninja or I started this thread. I know when a corner gets beat and Newman is getting beat it's been happening on a consistent basis all season you need to stop apologizing for him and open your eyes. Will you even admit that he looks slower?

 

[burmafrd]

Ninja and a few others on Newman, UNO on Roy. THeir hate is so blinding that nothing else matters. So its pretty easy to ignore them.

ANd between the ankle and the ribs he is slower- but its injuries not losing a step (but you WANT him to fail, etc, so you WANT him to have lost a step and therefore he has)

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I beg to differ. With his ovbious disdain for tackling, he would make an even worse FS than CB. He has never lived up to his status as the 5th (was it?) pick in the draft and as I posted earlier, he made a play at the end, but he had a lousy game in general...

*Blinks*

What?

Who are you watching when you're talking about the tackling, Mike Jenkins?

Being willing to tackle is not an issue that Newman has.

 

[Little Jr]

I've never been impressed with Newman as much as others. I remember fans getting mad about probowls he didn't make and claimed he was a top 5 cb and I never understood that. I don't think he's ever been a top 10 cb much less a top 5. He's been good at best and now he's avg at best.

 

[StylisticS]

I've heard from someone that has ties close to the organization that Newman quit on Campo over a season ago.

has it not been reported that he's had some conflict with Campo over the years. With our secondary this year, who can blame Newman. Newman or no Newman, Campo needs to go anyway next year.

 

[Idgit]

Neither ninja or I started this thread. I know when a corner gets beat and Newman is getting beat it's been happening on a consistent basis all season you need to stop apologizing for him and open your eyes. Will you even admit that he looks slower?

We seem to keep getting caught in this loop. I have never apologized for him, and my eyes are quite a bit more open than your own. I tell you each and every time this topic comes up: all corners get beat. You can't look at a guy getting beat and think that means he's getting slower or that he's lost a step. There's more that goes into each play than who's in the frame when the camera pans downfield.

Newman might be slower than he once was. I can't see it, but it stands to reason at his age. He's still very fast. Either way, he's our best starting CB by a fair margin, though Scandrick, frankly, has played really well the last 5-6 weeks. He's getting to the point where I think he should have a shot at Jenkin's job. Neither one of them are replacing Newman next year, though. Nor is anybody we draft.

 

[WoodysGirl]

Terence Newman on Jay Glazer Afterparty

Video: http://msn.foxsports.com/video/shows/afterparty?vid=52069589-2408-40c2-bed0-cc061dbd6e89

(32:09) Check in around the 18min mark for Newman.

Talks the game, Kitna's rushing, Romo vs Kitna, Romo's engagement, etc.

 

[jobberone]

It's ridiculous to say a player has lost a step when they're running around on a bad ankle.

If you want to be critical of Newman then attack the fact he is oft injured. I'll buy into that argument. His injury history is the reason you don't go into the season with 3 CBs on your roster. That's on Jerry.

 

[KJJ]

We seem to keep getting caught in this loop. I have never apologized for him, and my eyes are quite a bit more open than your own. I tell you each and every time this topic comes up: all corners get beat. You can't look at a guy getting beat and think that means he's getting slower or that he's lost a step. There's more that goes into each play than who's in the frame when the camera pans downfield.

Newman might be slower than he once was. I can't see it, but it stands to reason at his age. He's still very fast. Either way, he's our best starting CB by a fair margin, though Scandrick, frankly, has played really well the last 5-6 weeks. He's getting to the point where I think he should have a shot at Jenkin's job. Neither one of them are replacing Newman next year, though. Nor is anybody we draft.

You keep showing up in everyone of these threads to defend him.

We keep going over the same thing naturally all corners are going to get beat once in awhile but "solid" corners don't get beat with the regularity that Newman has been beaten this year.

One slight hesitation and receivers run right by him for a big play. He simply doesn't have the speed to stay with some of the receivers in the league.

He makes mistakes in coverage that you don't expect an experienced corner to make and doesn't have the speed to recover. Newman may be our best corner but that isn't saying much as bad as our secondary has been this season. It's been DREADFUL and he's been part of the problem!

When Rex Grossman tosses 4 TD passes your secondary has some serious issues. The Cowboys are on pace to set a franchise record for points allowed. Most of those points have come via the air.

 

[Idgit]

You keep showing up in everyone of these threads to defend him.

We keep going over the same thing naturally all corners are going to get beat once in awhile but "solid" corners don't get beat with the regularity that Newman has been beaten this year.

One slight hesitation and receivers run right by him for a big play. He simply doesn't have the speed to stay with some of the receivers in the league.

He makes mistakes in coverage that you don't expect an experienced corner to make and doesn't have the speed to recover. Newman may be our best corner but that isn't saying much as bad as our secondary has been this season. It's been DREADFUL and he's been part of the problem!

When Rex Grossman tosses 4 TD passes your secondary has some serious issues. The Cowboys are on pace to set a franchise record for points allowed. Most of those points have come via the air.

Not every thread, and, of course the secondary has major issues. The whole defense does. Nobody in their right mind is denying it.

But you're wrong in blaming Newman for it just because you don't understand what's happening with the coverages.

 

[superpunk]

Not every thread, and, of course the secondary has major issues. The whole defense does. Nobody in their right mind is denying it.

But you're wrong in blaming Newman for it just because you don't understand what's happening with the coverages.

Quit being a little girl.

 

[bbgun]

Quit being a little girl.

make me

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[THEHEREAFTER]

Guys thanks for the great responses and my bad .. I haven't been on much lately so sorry if this topic was redundant. I agree with the poster who brought up getting beat against Meechum with the game on the line. For a "speed" corner.. just looks like he gets beat rather easily. Garcon and Calvin Johnson.. no slouches by any means, beat him rather easily on the same post corner post double move for TD's. It's not so much getting beat. The receivers know where they're going and this is the pro's. It's moreso his body language and the fact that receivers seem to do what they want with him. Of course I'm not watching the coaches tape and he's probably in position more often than not. He's actually been one of my favorite Cowboys for a while. No secret that Jenkins has also been toast a lot and get really lucky falling down and having Moss drop that ball late. But I do like his energy and effort most of the time specifically when they tried to get him on that stop-go stop and he was all over it. I loved it. I agree with the poster who suggested he might be 3rd/4th next year. Maybe age is just catching up?

 

[KJJ]

make me

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That looks like Tom Cable.

 

[KJJ]

Not every thread, and, of course the secondary has major issues. The whole defense does. Nobody in their right mind is denying it.

But you're wrong in blaming Newman for it just because you don't understand what's happening with the coverages.

Dude I'm not putting all the blame on him I'm simply saying he's part of the problem. He's been beaten a number of times this season and anyone who thinks he's not part of the problem is in denial.

 

[jobberone]

Dude I'm not putting all the blame on him I'm simply saying he's part of the problem. He's been beaten a number of times this season and anyone who thinks he's not part of the problem is in denial.

Those of us watching the games see him getting beat too often. We see he is slower than in the past and too slow to keep up with the faster WRs.

We also understand he's injured and trying to play CB on a bad wheel. What part of that can't you understand? Your stand on this makes me think you are trolling because no one in their right mind could fail to understand why he's not playing well.

The problem here is not having someone to take his place. He shouldn't be trying to play CB. It's quite obvious he can't keep up. The reason they put a substandard player on the field is because he's still the best person for the job. That's a sad fact. We didn't keep enough decent CBs on the team this year. The position was badly played.

Combine the fact we are not getting adequate pressure on the QB along with substandard CB and S play and you get a defense that gives up 30 points a game and can't stop anyone.

This is really simple and it mystifies me why people can't see it clearly.