Terence Newman

[PBJTime]

You would know all about it I'm sure you've heard that many times. Have you ever wondered what life would have been like had you received enough oxygen at birth?

Oooh, I'm really under your skin! Now, you're not just being vague about your insults, you're hurling them. Keep teetering on the edge there, buddy.

You don't have me on ignore you're full of BS! If you were "ignoring" me it wouldn't matter if I dropped your name you would ignore it. I have complete control over you I even have you copying my posting style. LOL

You are on my ignore list. I don't know how to put it any clearer. Ask somebody who moderates this site. I'm not going to take a screenshot of it.

I also didn't know that this is "your style" as I've seen it across the internet in multiple forums. It's a simple point by point rebuttal.

The fact is you don't realize you're delusional...NEXT!

Ooooh, burn. A teenager's version of, "I know you are, but what am I." Nice.

The very first article was on Nov 2 that injury doesn't excuse him getting beat Dec 12 against Philly. Are you saying everytime he's been beaten this season it's been because of injury?

I didn't say that every time he's been beaten this season, it's been because of injury. I don't know how to make THAT any clearer for you, either.

It doesn't matter exactly how many times it's been repeatedly. It's been too many times that's why these threads keep popping up. You think these threads keep appearing because he's playing well?...NEXT!

Conveniently, you have nothing to back yourself up. This is Exhibit A of a weak argument. What you're saying is completely subjective.

The Cowboys were a much better team last year they owned Philly. An aging players play can drop off big time in one year. I've given you plenty of examples of it and am not about to repeat myself.

There are also plenty of examples of people retaining much of their athleticism as they age. Darrell Green ran a 4.43 at 50 years old. Using your faulty logic, this PROVES that all players should be able to do something similar. Seriously though, here's where my approach differs. I'm not offering this as proof, but it certainly sheds some doubt on your "aging process" argument.

Newman wasn't a legitimate pro bowl player last season he was a replacement for a replacement. Get real...NEXT!

He was obviously one of the higher regarded players in the league. He WAS a Pro Bowl player. Enough said.

The only one who's logic is flawed is yours...NEXT!

You have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE as to what constitutes flawed logic. None. The logical fallacies I brought up aren't even debatable. They are simply facts in the realm of debate. Not much different than 1+1=2. You are basically trying to tell everyone that 1+1=8.

He played fine last week because he wasn't tested. The Cardinals are a crap team with a rookie QB....NEXT!

Jenkins didn't play fine last week. They only decided to pick on Jenkins? Newman had nothing to do with that?

He said he made a mistake that one week that doesn't excuse Newman for getting beat prior to the injury or weeks after the injury...NEXT!

I don't know what to tell you. You wanted an article. I'm sure we aren't ever going to find enough articles to satisfy your requirement, whatever that arbitrary amount is.

Teams don't let injured players play with every injury. There's some injuries where they make them sit and get healthy. Barber had a calf injury and the Cowboys sat him for 2 weeks. RW missed a game there's hundreds of examples where players don't play with certain injuries...NEXT!

What point does that prove? It doesn't prove that teams don't play players who are affected by injury. Proof by example(s) (funny, you even used that exact word) is(are) not PROOF of anything. That is a logical fallacy. 1+1=2. Look it up and educate yourself, please, before you embarrass yourself more. Here's a little bit to get you started:

http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/proof_by_example

Here's an example for you. Barber played most of 2009 with a torn quad. There are NUMEROUS articles supporting that one. It affected his play. There is proof that it CAN happen. I'd love to hear the rebuttal to this, BTW. Who am I kidding? You'll either disregard it, attack my credibility to distract, or just insert a one-liner followed by, "NEXT", as if you won something.

Scandrick could have taken his place if he was too injured he has 3 years of experience and looks faster than Newman. As for why I'm not on the coaching staff I have a much better gig...NEXT!

He LOOKS faster, huh. To your expert, calibrated eye I assume?

Common sense which is something you obviously don't have will tell you that a team won't play a player that's too injured to be affective. If a player is too injured to play teams have what are called "backups" who take their place.

Again, Barber. That's just one example. I'm sure I can find more, but I'll wait for your rebuttal before I waste anymore of my time.

Even coaches bring other players up as examples. Examples are exactly that "examples."....NEXT!

Thank you! I'm glad you finally admitted it! They are only "examples", not proof of ANYTHING, which you attempt to use them for. Congrats! Learning is taking place!

Exactly, he played and didn't look limited so in my book he wasn't injured...NEXT!

I'm so glad you are not in the medical field! I'm sure coaches would love to know how a player's condition is based on "your book". You are too much!

BTW, how did Barber look last year...you know, in "your book?" HAHAHA!!! I'm literally crying right now! Thanks, I needed that!

It applies to alot of players. Players play with injuries all the time but teams won't play a player if they can't be affective with an injury or there's a chance it could linger by not allowing the injury to completely heal. Newman's subpar play this season is because he's in decline.

Don't dance around this. Yes or no: You believe that by Newman not missing a start, that is PROOF that he is not injured? Those were your words, remember?

You don't know anything in regards to Newman because you haven't examined him...NEXT!

I know. It's a good thing I'm not diagnosing anything, huh? However, I can have a very educated opinion on things related to musculoskeletal injuries. How about you?

He was showing signs of losing quickness 2 years ago his loss of speed and quickness didn't happen over night.

So THAT explains why he shut down one of the fastest receivers in the league THREE games last year...because he was slowing down.

Like I said you haven't examined Newman so save your breath...NEXT!

You haven't either. In fact, I'm sure you have very little anatomical or kinesiological information to back even the most basic opinion on this subject.

You're not sure about anything all you're doing is making excuses and speculating...NEXT!

You're only speculating as well. You state that his decline is because he has aged. When you make an affirmative statement, you must support it with evidence. Appealing to popularity or offering proof by example is hardly support for a position. That is basically all you've done. Heck, if you even had a poll with numbers, that would be some sort of statistical evidence. However, even that would be pretty weak given the overall population of Cowboy fans.

I've offered that players can still retain great athletic ability even into their 50's, so you really have very little to stand on.

If you can't stop responding to me then you have some serious issues. You're the one who's been waging an attack and you're right it is a sign of weakness.

You're incredibly weak you can't even ignore me even though you've tried that's WEAK!

Yawn. More ad hom. This is what you asked for, no? Did you or did you not say something along the lines of standing up "like a man" and presenting my case? Now, you're going to try to ridicule me for it? Are you serious? No, you're just mad that you can't come up with an informed, coherent argument that isn't chock-full of logical fallacies. I told you to be careful what you wished for...

You claim you have me on ignore but you're still responding to me. You obviously don't know what ignore means. :laugh2:

You are "on ignore." I haven't been ignoring because you can't get my name out of your posts...LOL. You can't get me out of your head. How sweet!

Why don't you go to a therapist and talk about Newman. LOL

More inflammatory remarks. How typical of you.

I've been swaying you from the very beginning. Like I said earlier I have complete control over you that's why you can't ignore me.

Find ONE example where you've swayed me! Just one! Of course, you won't be able to as you're just talking out of your backside.

You know what? Forget everything else. Try a little experiment on some of your friends. Present this scenario.

CB "A" allowed a 77.3 QB rating against him in 2009. He went to the Pro Bowl as an alternate. This year, his play has declined. Through 12 weeks, QB's had a rating of 94.1 against him. He did not get selected for the Pro Bowl. He has been on the injury report 40% of the year with a game left to play, including an ankle injury and a rib cartilage injury. He is one year older.

(Keeping in mind that these are all verifiable facts, now ask them this question.)

Is it probable that injuries affected his play?

 

[RoyTheHammer]

He does have a point.. you put him on your ignore list, yet you're still reading and responding to his posts. As long as he keeps getting you to respond he kinda does have you by the cahones.

Fight the urge.. lol

:chopchop:

 

[PBJTime]

What's funny is you're responding to a fan who thinks Newman has played well this season despite being repeatedly beaten. What do you think of Igit's opinion? :laugh2:

Just more proof you'll form an alliance with anyone who opposes me regardless that your views differ from theirs.

You think everybody conspires against you. Persecution complex anyone?

Look, I can easily get along with people whose opinions differ from mine. You obviously can't. There are quite a few people on here that I've debated who end up having a reasoned argument that I just may not agree with. My exact words are almost always, "fair enough." Or, I'll often say that, while I may not agree with their opinion, I can't fault them for having it.

You offer nothing that resembles a complete thought, much less a coherent argument.

 

[PBJTime]

He does have a point.. you put him on your ignore list, yet you're still reading and responding to his posts. As long as he keeps getting you to respond he kinda does have you by the cahones.

Fight the urge.. lol

:chopchop:

Well, I've changed my mind. Surely, that's allowable, no? He wants a real debate, so I'll kindly extend him that courtesy.

It only illustrates how absolutely, pathetically petty he is acting. If that's all he's got on me, then I'm in good shape!

 

[jobberone]

He does have a point.. you put him on your ignore list, yet you're still reading and responding to his posts. As long as he keeps getting you to respond he kinda does have you by the cahones.

Fight the urge.. lol

:chopchop:

And what could be your motivation for butting in with a smart aleck comment? Hmmmm? Forgive me if I leave off an emoticon.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

And what could be your motivation for butting in with a smart aleck comment? Hmmmm? Forgive me if I leave off an emoticon.

I've been cutting in every now and then with multiple smart alec comments if you haven't noticed.. lol. Im sure you'll point out some "agenda" i have by cracking a few jokes though.



You'd fit right in with this thread actually. haha

 

[jobberone]

I've been cutting in every now and then with multiple smart alec comments if you haven't noticed.. lol. Im sure you'll point out some "agenda" i have by cracking a few jokes though.



You'd fit right in with this thread actually. haha

Not nearly so well as you do. In fact you're perfect for the job. Again forgive the lack of an emoticon. Notice the lack of a responsible answer though. I'll let you have the last word.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Not nearly so well as you do. In fact you're perfect for the job. Again forgive the lack of an emoticon. Notice the lack of a responsible answer though. I'll let you have the last word.

Clueless..


Man, im such a bad guy for using an emoticon. Clearly i don't take my posts seriously.


Oh wait.. maybe because this whole thread has been one big petty argument and im mocking it? Why don't you look back through the thread and see the actual discussion posts i made on the topic, before it completely broke down into petty arguing and drivil. If you actually read the thread before butting in yourself, you'd see that half of this thread is sarcastic and smart alec remarks.

What sense does it make to butt your own nose in to call out someone for butting their nose in supposedly?

Sorry threadmaster.. i'll adjust my posts to suit your wishes from now on.

:laugh1:


Oh no, i used an emoticon again! What will jobber think? lol

If you want to debate the topic i will certainly do that with you. If you want to come in and tell me when and where the appropriate place to crack a harmless joke is then you might as well just get lost bud.

 

[KJJ]

Oooh, I'm really under your skin!

Not only have you copied my posting style but you're using my lines. Stop insulting the intelligence of everyone we all know who's gotten under who's skin.

You are on my ignore list. I don't know how to put it any clearer. Ask somebody who moderates this site. I'm not going to take a screenshot of it.

Yeah riiiiight! I guess that's why you keep responding back because I'm on your ignore list? Are you really that dense or are you trying especially hard today?

I also didn't know that this is "your style" as I've seen it across the internet in multiple forums. It's a simple point by point rebuttal.

You didn't start doing it until you saw me. You're so foolish I have you using lines on me that I've used on you. LOL You can't even think for yourself!

I didn't say that every time he's been beaten this season, it's been because of injury. I don't know how to make THAT any clearer for you, either.

You've given the impression throughout this thread that all of Newman's struggles are due to injury.

Conveniently, you have nothing to back yourself up. This is Exhibit A of a weak argument. What you're saying is completely subjective.

I've posted plenty to back up my position....NEXT!

There are also plenty of examples of people retaining much of their athleticism as they age. Darrell Green ran a 4.43 at 50 years old.

Darrell Green was one of the few corners to maintain his speed at an advancing age. He was a HOF player who was a much more talented player than Newman ever was. There's no comparisons between Darrell Green and Newman....NEXT!

He was obviously one of the higher regarded players in the league. He WAS a Pro Bowl player. Enough said.

The key word is "was" and that was only because he never got beat because he played not to get beat. Newman has been named to 2 pro bowls once as an alternate which means 3 CB's were named ahead of him and last season as a replacement for an alternate because several players pulled out at the last minute....NEXT!

You have ABSOLUTELY NO CLUE as to what constitutes flawed logic.

All I have to do is look at your posts...NEXT!

You are basically trying to tell everyone that 1+1=8.

That's just more proof of how delusional you are....NEXT!

Jenkins didn't play fine last week. They only decided to pick on Jenkins? Newman had nothing to do with that?

I never said Jenkins played fine last week. The Cardinals had a rookie QB who couldn't get the ball down the field.

Had it not been for his one big pass play of 74 yards he would have only had 109 yards passing. Newman had nothing to do with anything Skelton simply didn't have the experience to exploit him.

There were open receivers he couldn't hit them.

I don't know what to tell you.

Then stop responding to me.

I'm sure we aren't ever going to find enough articles to satisfy your requirement, whatever that arbitrary amount is.

Like I keep telling you go find an article that blames injures for Newman's subpar play this season.

What point does that prove?

If you can't figure that out I'm certainly not going to explain it any further. You continue wanting to argue for the sake of argument. If this is an attempt to wear me down it's not working!

Here's an example for you. Barber played most of 2009 with a torn quad. There are NUMEROUS articles supporting that one. It affected his play. There is proof that it CAN happen. I'd love to hear the rebuttal to this, BTW. Who am I kidding? You'll either disregard it, attack my credibility to distract, or just insert a one-liner followed by, "NEXT", as if you won something.

I never said that injuries don't affect some players performance. You're twisting all my comments just looking to argue what a screwed up agenda you have.

Thank you! I'm glad you finally admitted it!

Admitted what? Dude you sound like you're having a meltdown. You need to take a break from this before you go on a rampage....seriously!

I'm so glad you are not in the medical field!

It's scary to think you are in the medical field you remind me of Dr Frankenstein.

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BTW, how did Barber look last year...you know, in "your book?" HAHAHA!!! I'm literally crying right now! Thanks, I needed that!

You're crying because I have you so frustrated you're ready to strangle your laptop. :laugh2: Barber is another player in decline....NEXT! LOL

IDon't dance around this. Yes or no: You believe that by Newman not missing a start, that is PROOF that he is not injured? Those were your words, remember?

You're telling me not to dance but you've been dancing like Fred Astaire avoiding all my questions. LOL

Newman not missing a start means he's not injured in my book. He's suffered a couple of injuries during games but played the next week.

Like I said every player has something hurting on them but if they're in pads on the field and not looking limited they're not injured in my book. In my book a player can't play affectively if they're injured.

II know. It's a good thing I'm not diagnosing anything, huh?

It's more than a good thing you're not it's a relief because you don't sound well yourself. LOL You need to undergo a diagnoses.

You admitted all people don't react the same way to certain injuries. You don't work with professional football players and you haven't examined Newman so you have no idea how he's feeling...NEXT!

So THAT explains why he shut down one of the fastest receivers in the league THREE games last year...because he was slowing down.

The Cowboys defense owned Philly and McNabb last season he was in decline which is why he's no longer in Philly and probably won't be back Washington next season.

Just because Jackson didn't do any damage last season to the Cowboys doesn't mean Newman shut him down it means they couldn't get him the ball.

In 3 games against Philly last season the Eagles were only able to put up 30 points.

Our DL was putting a lot more pressure on the QB which took alot of pressure off our corners.

It's been a totally different story for our corners this year with not nearly as much pressure on the passer...Get a clue!

You're only speculating as well. You state that his decline is because he has aged. When you make an affirmative statement, you must support it with evidence.

There has been evidence he's been repeatedly beaten this season...NEXT!

I've offered that players can still retain great athletic ability even into their 50's, so you really have very little to stand on.

You offered that Darrell Green ran a 4.43 40 at 50 which I'm sure is faster than Newman can run now. LOL

You said "players" so where's the other 50 year old who's maintained their great athletic ability at 50?

Even though Green remained fast he lost alot of his ability to play in the NFL that's why he retired at 42. There's more to playing CB than just speed. I have plenty to stand on all you have are couple of nubs shorty. LOL

Yawn. More ad hom. This is what you asked for, no? Did you or did you not say something along the lines of standing up "like a man" and presenting my case? Now, you're going to try to ridicule me for it?

If what you just presented is your case you would never get to trial. :laugh2: All you've done is create a big jumbled up mess simply to keep arguing.

No, you're just mad that you can't come up with an informed, coherent argument that isn't chock-full of logical fallacies.

Just more delusional BS!

You are "on ignore." I haven't been ignoring because you can't get my name out of your posts...LOL.

Are you for real??? You just said I'm on ignore then said you haven't been ignoring me. You had to read my posts to find your name. I have you sinking like the Titanic. LOL

You can't get me out of your head. How sweet!

Keep saying it to yourself over and over and eventually you might actually start believing that. LOL You are truly cracking up this is hilarious!

 

[KJJ]

You think everybody conspires against you.

Only the weak like you who I make look foolish.

Look, I can easily get along with people whose opinions differ from mine. You obviously can't.

I'm not the one who started this and you know it. You came after me and ended up falling flat on your face....MERRY CHRISTMAS!

You offer nothing that resembles a complete thought, much less a coherent argument.

You're just full of hate everyone can see it just let it all out. You had a problem with me before I ever exchanged a post with you. I have you mad as hell and everyone is laughing at your expense. :laugh2:

 

[RoyTheHammer]

Actually i've been laughing for quite awhile at how petty this thread has become. 300 posts though, mainly from 2 or 3 people. That's pretty impressive.

I'd crack another joke here to lighten the mood, but i don't wana upset any thread supervisors like jobber.

:moon:

 

[KJJ]

You just said in the previous post you had me on ignore here's your quote "You are on my ignore list. I don't know how to put it any clearer." Later in the same post you said " You are "on ignore." I haven't been ignoring because you can't get my name out of your posts. One minute you say emphatically I'm on ignore and repeat it and immediately after repeating it you say you haven't been ignoring me.

Now you're admitting you've changed your mind now we can add FLIP FLOPPER to your tainted resume.

He wants a real debate, so I'll kindly extend him that courtesy.

You call what you're doing a real debate? LOL Now I see why you didn't want to do it. The only courtesy you extended me was to allow me to discredit you. That was very noble of you. :laugh2:

 

[TwoCentPlain]

Just to keep things on track: Newman sucks.

Happy New Year!

Keep this thread rolling.

 

[Idgit]

This thread rocks, apart from all the face-rape. superpunk, can I bear your children? Maybe just one small one?

I leave for two days, and come back to find out it's still KJJ's Day in the Barrel! That's some knothole. KJJ, I think PBJ's still disrespecting you, despite you being high-functioning and everything. You probably should respond to him some more. I think you're actually winning now.

 

[KJJ]

This thread rocks, apart from all the face-rape. superpunk, can I bear your children? Maybe just one small one?

I leave for two days, and come back to find out it's still KJJ's Day in the Barrel! That's some knothole. KJJ, I think PBJ's still disrespecting you, despite you being high-functioning and everything. You probably should respond to him some more. I think you're actually winning now.

This thread finally dropped off the first page and appeared to be dying and you bring it back. Just lick your wounds and let it go!

 

[Idgit]

This thread finally dropped off the first page and appeared to be dying and you bring it back. Just lick your wounds and let it go!

I want you to win some more.
It's very impressive.

 

[KJJ]

I want you to win some more.
It's very impressive.

Dead is dead anything more would be overkill! :toast:

 

[Jarv]

Wow, I didn't spend hours reading through this whole thing, or even care much about the content. But I have to say this post shows some of the best usage of the multiple quote feature I have ever seen

 

[30yrheel]

Just to keep things on track: Newman sucks.

Happy New Year!

Keep this thread rolling.

i approve of this message.
is this still going?

 

[PBJTime]

Not only have you copied my posting style but you're using my lines. Stop insulting the intelligence of everyone we all know who's gotten under who's skin.

Again, it's not your posting style. It's a very typical point by point rebuttal. I was using it long before I ever "debated" you. Also, it's hilarious that "under your skin" is considered your line, according to you!Now, you're REALLY reaching for anything, just grasping in an attempt to hang on to this ride!

Yeah riiiiight! I guess that's why you keep responding back because I'm on your ignore list? Are you really that dense or are you trying especially hard today?

You know the "ignore list" is a function of this site, correct? I don't necessarily have to ignore you in order for you to still be on this list. Are you purposely this dense or do you just fail at reading?

You didn't start doing it until you saw me. You're so foolish I have you using lines on me that I've used on you. LOL You can't even think for yourself!

Coming from the guy who very likely has no higher level education! What a treat!

You've given the impression throughout this thread that all of Newman's struggles are due to injury.

Really? Give some examples. I've merely said that it is likely they affected him. The fact that you completely refute any possibility that they affected him is quite possibly the most ignorant position I've EVER debated against.

I've posted plenty to back up my position....NEXT!

How convenient.

Darrell Green was one of the few corners to maintain his speed at an advancing age. He was a HOF player who was a much more talented player than Newman ever was. There's no comparisons between Darrell Green and Newman....NEXT!

But, using your logic, an example is enough to prove a point, right? I'm mean, you HAVE said such things. I can quote you again if you need it.

The key word is "was" and that was only because he never got beat because he played not to get beat. Newman has been named to 2 pro bowls once as an alternate which means 3 CB's were named ahead of him and last season as a replacement for an alternate because several players pulled out at the last minute....NEXT!

The fact that he was an alternate should say enough, given the quantity of corners in this league. "Was" was only a mere year ago. Please...

All I have to do is look at your posts...NEXT!

You can't possibly be this ignorant. I refuse to believe it. I've pointed out so many holes in your logic, it's not even funny anymore. Anybody with a basic knowledge of debate would know EXACTLY what I was talking about. You, no doubt, went to check out what these mythical "logical fallacies" were on wikipedia, and found they still went over your head.

I never said Jenkins played fine last week. The Cardinals had a rookie QB who couldn't get the ball down the field.

Had it not been for his one big pass play of 74 yards he would have only had 109 yards passing. Newman had nothing to do with anything Skelton simply didn't have the experience to exploit him.

There were open receivers he couldn't hit them.

HAHAHAHA!!!!:laugh2: Is anybody else getting this? Seriously, get a load of this guy! Newman had NOTHING to do with it, huh? Skelton was only able to exploit Jenkins, but not Newman?!?!Just when I think you can't be any dumber, you go and say something like this! I always love the "if you take away this one big play" crowd too, as a side note!

Then stop responding to me.

This is too fun! My coworkers checked out this thread today at lunch. They got a kick out of your ignorance...and the overall pettiness of this thread.

Like I keep telling you go find an article that blames injures for Newman's subpar play this season.

I did. It specifically mentioned one game that he was affected. There you go. There's your article. Quit asking for one and just have your sitter read that one for you.

If you can't figure that out I'm certainly not going to explain it any further. You continue wanting to argue for the sake of argument. If this is an attempt to wear me down it's not working!

How convenient again. You simply CAN'T explain it any further because an example proves nothing. I do want to argue for the sake of arguing now. It's a comical break in my day to watch you dance! You are getting progressively more ignorant. I guess you're running out of insults and we're getting down to the fact that you have nothing to prove your argument that injuries have NOTHING to do with Newman's decline this year.

I never said that injuries don't affect some players performance. You're twisting all my comments just looking to argue what a screwed up agenda you have.

You did say that teams don't play players who are affected by injury. There is no twisting here. Dance some more...:laugh2:

Admitted what? Dude you sound like you're having a meltdown. You need to take a break from this before you go on a rampage....seriously!

You admitted examples are only examples. You were previously stating examples as proof of your points. I can go back and quote you if you need me to. You'll just look silly. You might as well concede this point.
And are you kidding me!? I'm as far from a meltdown as I could be! This is absolutely, 100% hilarious! Don't project any of your feelings on me there, buddy!

It's scary to think you are in the medical field you remind me of Dr Frankenstein.

As if you could possibly know about my professional expertise from anything you gather from a football forum. You're reaching again. People call me when they have an injury and they want it fixed. People call you when they want to know what it's like to have a sub triple digit IQ. It's funny how you avoid any challenge to medical knowledge, yet claim to have informed opinions about it!

You're crying because I have you so frustrated you're ready to strangle your laptop. :laugh2: Barber is another player in decline....NEXT! LOL

Again, you couldn't be further from the truth! Don't be projecting your emotions on me! I think this is a riot!

Barber was also hampered by injury last year, and that was the point. Go ahead and try to refute that.

You're telling me not to dance but you've been dancing like Fred Astaire avoiding all my questions. LOL

Are you kidding me? You've been dancing all of this thread like a fat kid who just found some cake!

Newman not missing a start means he's not injured in my book. He's suffered a couple of injuries during games but played the next week. Like I said every player has something hurting on them but if they're in pads on the field and not looking limited they're not injured in my book. In my book a player can't play affectively if they're injured.

Let me tell you something. You're "book" really has no basis in reality. It means nothing other than a way for you to support your argument. Injured is injured and players often play injured and affected by said injury. Barber is a clear cut example that it does happen. You clenching your fists and screaming over and over that it isn't means nothing. Multiple articles support the fact that Barber played hampered by injury last year. Articles are your gold standard. There are at least a half dozen that I saw on a quick Google search.

It's more than a good thing you're not it's a relief because you don't sound well yourself. LOL You need to undergo a diagnoses.

I don't know where to start. Is this even English? I've excused your horrible grammar and punctuation throughout this thread as it is really irrelevant if I can understand your point, but this is hilarious! If you're going to insult me, at least get it right! Go say this, word for word, to someone in the medical field!

You admitted all people don't react the same way to certain injuries. You don't work with professional football players and you haven't examined Newman so you have no idea how he's feeling...NEXT!

I've worked with professional athletes and college football players. Besides, do you think professional football players have drastically different anatomies or something? There's nothing special about them other than they have access to the best equipment. I haven't physically examined the sun, but I know it's hot. I haven't ever visited Loch Ness, but I know I'll get wet if I jump in it. Your assertions do nothing to prove your point either. You're trying your best to discredit what is, in the end, common medical knowledge. You simply can't, no matter how hard you try.

The Cowboys defense owned Philly and McNabb last season he was in decline which is why he's no longer in Philly and probably won't be back Washington next season.

Just because Jackson didn't do any damage last season to the Cowboys doesn't mean Newman shut him down it means they couldn't get him the ball.

In 3 games against Philly last season the Eagles were only able to put up 30 points.

Our DL was putting a lot more pressure on the QB which took alot of pressure off our corners.

It's been a totally different story for our corners this year with not nearly as much pressure on the passer...Get a clue!

Again, Newman had absolutely nothing to do with this!?:laugh1: You are an absolute gold mine of stupidity!

There has been evidence he's been repeatedly beaten this season...NEXT!

Ok, we covered this about 18 pages ago. Get with the program! That's not what we're debating. I'm not big on strawmen, so you can take that somewhere else. Your position is that injuries affirmatively DID NOT affect Newman this year. Correct me if I'm wrong.

You offered that Darrell Green ran a 4.43 40 at 50 which I'm sure is faster than Newman can run now. LOL

You said "players" so where's the other 50 year old who's maintained their great athletic ability at 50?

Willie Gault ran a 4.4 at 50. Deion Sanders ran a 4.38 at 37.

Even though Green remained fast he lost alot of his ability to play in the NFL that's why he retired at 42. There's more to playing CB than just speed. I have plenty to stand on all you have are couple of nubs shorty. LOL

That's a tender young age. Only 10 years older than Newman. You're right, Newman is just too old!

If what you just presented is your case you would never get to trial. :laugh2: All you've done is create a big jumbled up mess simply to keep arguing.

As if you know anything about debate and trial!!! You, of all people, without the most basic knowledge of logical fallacies, are the last person that should be commenting on presenting a case! Dude, it just keeps getting better for me! The irony is KILLING me!:laugh2:

Are you for real??? You just said I'm on ignore then said you haven't been ignoring me. You had to read my posts to find your name. I have you sinking like the Titanic. LOL

I really question if you read anything. Go ahead and put someone on ignore, like me, for instance. Then, see if you can still read what I post when someone else quotes me. Guess what, you can! It's not hard to pick out "PBJ" in some of your posts. You name dropped me. Just concede this point also. You still had me on your mind or you wouldn't have name dropped, right? I mean, it really is that simple.

Ok, I just want to be real for a second. In all seriousness, do you have a learning disability? Are you developmentally delayed? Because, I'd feel really bad if I've been picking on someone who is responding to me from their cubicle in the special ed class. All joking aside, I really want to know because I'll lay off.