News: Terrell McClain can be valuable piece for Cowboys

[Stash]

Yet another fluff piece from Archer, trying yet again to polish a turd. I've always liked his work, but these recent 'pieces' haven't been good at all.

McClain has been a good player, for those one or two games a season when he's actually out there. But I would consider him nothing more than a roster spot this season. If you rely on someone who has proven to be unreliable, you have no one to blame but yourself.

Relying on a full season from McClain would be as foolish as relying on a full season from Sean Lee, Lance Dunbar, or believing that you can get by solely with Tony Romo at quarterback. All have proven to be false, and all have cost this team a great deal when they've missed time.

If you want to bring him back and let him compete for a spot? Fine. I can see that. Maybe he'll actually play in a contract/stay in the league type of year. And if they decided enough is enough? I'd have no problem with that decision either.

 

[CCBoy]

Yet another fluff piece from Archer, trying yet again to polish a turd. I've always liked his work, but these recent 'pieces' haven't been good at all.

McClain has been a good player, for those one or two games a season when he's actually out there. But I would consider him nothing more than a roster spot this season. If you rely on someone who has proven to be unreliable, you have no one to blame but yourself.

Relying on a full season from McClain would be as foolish as relying on a full season from Sean Lee, Lance Dunbar, or believing that you can get by solely with Tony Romo at quarterback. All have proven to be false, and all have cost this team a great deal when they've missed time.

If you want to bring him back and let him compete for a spot? Fine. I can see that. Maybe he'll actually play in a contract/stay in the league type of year. And if they decided enough is enough? I'd have no problem with that decision either.

I think that Archer was only presenting the positives that could come together if a position was won by McClain...

 

[Stash]

I think that Archer was only presenting the positives that could come together if a position was won by McClain...

And I think it's once again a wasted effort at finding some silver lining that's not there. I'm a fan of Mr. Archer's work overall, but between this fluff piece and his story about keeping Garrett being some sort of 'victory', he's been off his game lately. Or trying to kiss up to the organization for some reason.

Either way, both are off base.

And anyone relying on a proven unreliable player is making a mistake.

And I think this team is making a big mistake in not acquiring a 1-technique player who can command a consistant double team and free up his line mates. And any talk of oft-injured Terrell McClain being part of the solution makes me think that whoever saying it still don't get it.

 

[CCBoy]

And I think it's once again a wasted effort at finding some silver lining that's not there. I'm a fan of Mr. Archer's work overall, but between this fluff piece and his story about keeping Garrett being some sort of 'victory', he's been off his game lately. Or trying to kiss up to the organization for some reason.

Either way, both are off base.

And anyone relying on a proven unreliable player is making a mistake.

And I think this team is making a big mistake in not acquiring a 1-technique player who can command a consistant double team and free up his line mates. And any talk of oft-injured Terrell McClain being part of the solution makes me think that whoever saying it still don't get it.

So, would take a top cornerback in free agency...and a cornerback and defensive tackle high in the draft?

 

[Stash]

So, would take a top cornerback in free agency...and a cornerback and defensive tackle high in the draft?

I think so much of that is cost-related. If I can acquire one cornerback to take the place of Carr and Claiborne - say Sean Smith from the Chiefs - at a good price, I'd like to do that. Carr has shown to not be worth close to his price, and Claiborne is another proven unreliable player.

As for the draft? I wouldn't say with any level of certainty that I would have to use a "high draft pick" on either position, only that both positions would have some weight on who I did draft. If Jalen Ramsey is there at #4, and I'm not enamored with the remaining quarterbacks or a trade down offer doesn't blow me away? Sure. If say, Austin Johnson is there in Round 2? I'd go that route.

But, given where we are in the process, I'm not locked into anything or anyone at this point.

What I am ready to do however, is to move on from relying on players who have proven themselves to be physically unreliable, or in the case of truly special players like Lee and Romo, to have solid backup options in place in case something does happen again.

 

[CCBoy]

A question about the D line next year: I'm assuming no more Mincey and Hardy. If they have Gregory and Lawrence at DE - are they too small versus the run? Could they have Crawford play DE?

I think they want to keep Tyrone Crawford as the under tackle. They paid him a big extension this money to play that spot. I know he didn't put up huge numbers this year, but he was playing a lot of the season with one arm (shoulder injury). That's not an excuse, just what happened. And you're right about DE if, as we're assuming, Mincey and Hardy are not re-signed. Gregory is undersized. That's why DE is one of the important positions that needs addressing this offseason.

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[Stash]

A question about the D line next year: I'm assuming no more Mincey and Hardy. If they have Gregory and Lawrence at DE - are they too small versus the run? Could they have Crawford play DE?

I think they want to keep Tyrone Crawford as the under tackle. They paid him a big extension this money to play that spot. I know he didn't put up huge numbers this year, but he was playing a lot of the season with one arm (shoulder injury). That's not an excuse, just what happened. And you're right about DE if, as we're assuming, Mincey and Hardy are not re-signed. Gregory is undersized. That's why DE is one of the important positions that needs addressing this offseason.

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The more I think about the implications, the more I'm considering keeping Greg Hardy.

You've already taken the PR beating.

If you let him go, defensive end is suddenly a big need and do you really want to use the #4 overall pick on yet another pass rusher? That would effectively mean you've used a 2nd and 3rd rounder in 2014 on Lawrence, a 2015 2nd rounder on Gregory, and then a top 5 1st rounder in 2016. Sorry, but that's just a ridiculous draft investment made for one or two positions, no matter how important.

Unless the money is out of hand or there's another off field issue, I'm bringing Hardy back.

 

[BlindFaith]

If nothing else you have to admire his ability to continue earning paychecks.

In his 5 years in the NFL he has a grand total of 37 tackle and 2 sacks.... so on average 7 tackles and 0.4 sacks per season.

He is a nice runstopper in the middle when he plays, which hasn't been much in his half a decade in the league.

So he's averaging more sacks per year than Hayden while not even playing. lol

 

[BlindFaith]

The more I think about the implications, the more I'm considering keeping Greg Hardy.

You've already taken the PR beating.

If you let him go, defensive end is suddenly a big need and do you really want to use the #4 overall pick on yet another pass rusher? That would effectively mean you've used a 2nd and 3rd rounder in 2014 on Lawrence, a 2015 2nd rounder on Gregory, and then a top 5 1st rounder in 2016. Sorry, but that's just a ridiculous draft investment made for one or two positions, no matter how important.

Unless the money is out of hand or there's another off field issue, I'm bringing Hardy back.

Ok, maybe I'm beating a dead horse here, but I don't care.

Hardy will probably cost you almost double what you've already paid Crawford. I personally think Hardy and Crawford have the same skill set. I think Lawrence will prove to be a better pass rusher than Hardy.

Why not move Crawford to SDE, Lawrence to WDE? Then draft a true 3T and sign a legit 1T in FA? It saves money, and in my opinion, makes the defense better.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

Absolutely he is a valuable piece. The Cowboys need someone to test the temperature of the water daily in the training room therapy tub. McClain performs this job well and without fail.

Sidenote: Marinelli's nickname for McClain should be Little Thermometer.

 

[Nightman]

Ok, maybe I'm beating a dead horse here, but I don't care.

Hardy will probably cost you almost double what you've already paid Crawford. I personally think Hardy and Crawford have the same skill set. I think Lawrence will prove to be a better pass rusher than Hardy.

Why not move Crawford to SDE, Lawrence to WDE? Then draft a true 3T and sign a legit 1T in FA? It saves money, and in my opinion, makes the defense better.

I can't right off RGregory yet.

I still like GHardy as the base WDE and RGregory as the speed rusher on passing downs. DLawrence held his own at SDE, no need to move him.

I would sign a Fairley, Knighton or Raji for the 1T.
I wouldn't pay GHardy 13m+ but at 8m with incentives he is star.

 

[Stash]

Ok, maybe I'm beating a dead horse here, but I don't care.

Hardy will probably cost you almost double what you've already paid Crawford. I personally think Hardy and Crawford have the same skill set. I think Lawrence will prove to be a better pass rusher than Hardy.

Why not move Crawford to SDE, Lawrence to WDE? Then draft a true 3T and sign a legit 1T in FA? It saves money, and in my opinion, makes the defense better.

I don't think too many people share your opinion of Crawford and Hardy being on the same level. And secondly, I think his recent contract necessitates that he is this team's 3-technique. That's their plan, and that why he was signed long-term to that contract.

I also have to take issue with Hardy costing "almost double". I think that his asking price has to have reduced considerably considering his reputation and the season he had in 2015.

 

[BlindFaith]

I don't think too many people share your opinion of Crawford and Hardy being on the same level. And secondly, I think his recent contract necessitates that he is this team's 3-technique. That's their plan, and that why he was signed long-term to that contract.

I also have to take issue with Hardy costing "almost double". I think that his asking price has to have reduced considerably considering his reputation and the season he had in 2015.

That's what makes me me.

And we haven't seen Crawford at DE. Crawford is faster, quicker and stronger than Hardy. Look up pre draft info.

Did Hardy really show much? I mean honestly? He looked slow to me. Rushed with some power. Not many moves. Strong against the run.

 

[CCBoy]

Stash, you are coming out in good form here...

 

[BlindFaith]

I can't right off RGregory yet.

I still like GHardy as the base WDE and RGregory as the speed rusher on passing downs. DLawrence held his own at SDE, no need to move him.

I would sign a Fairley, Knighton or Raji for the 1T.
I wouldn't pay GHardy 13m+ but at 8m with incentives he is star.

I like Gregory. I just don't think he'll be quite ready for full time duty next year.

And if you can get Hardy for 8m I'm all for it. Maybe throw in an extra 1m in incentives. But that's it. I think he'll still be able to get more from someone else though.

 

[Stash]

That's what makes me me.

And we haven't seen Crawford at DE. Crawford is faster, quicker and stronger than Hardy. Look up pre draft info.

Did Hardy really show much? I mean honestly? He looked slow to me. Rushed with some power. Not many moves. Strong against the run.

I think the time off certainly hurt Hardy, but his past performance clearly shows that he is capable and I don't see a comparable option out there.

 

[Stash]

Stash, you are coming out in good form here...

Thanks.

Appreciate the compliment!

 

[BlindFaith]

I think the time off certainly hurt Hardy, but his past performance clearly shows that he is capable and I don't see a comparable option out there.

Maybe rust. I happen to think it's more to do with our personnel and scheme that contributed to his very average year. And if that doesn't change, then we will over pay for the guy if we do decide to keep him.

 

[Stash]

Maybe rust. I happen to think it's more to do with our personnel and scheme that contributed to his very average year. And if that doesn't change, then we will over pay for the guy if we do decide to keep him.

I don't want to "overpay" for him for sure. What's your definition of overpaying?

 

[FaSho]

Can't build an effective defense around guys who can't remain healthy or dedicated like Claiborne and McClain, no matter how much potential they might have.

Agreed