Terry Glenn not going to Miami apparently
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Tovya;2167262 said:
Actually he was going to sign the contact, Jerry decided he wanted to give the younger WRs a chance to shine.
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zrinkill;2167324 said:
Cold but completely accurate.
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And yet the great Parcells chose not to sign him to the South Beach Cowboys. Is that a loss for them as well?Nors;2167546 said:
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Nors;2167546 said:
What do you mean by proactive? Jerry negotiated with Glenn about signing a split contract. Glenn initially balked. When he finally decided to sign it Jerry changed his mind. Even if Jerry caved and kept Glenn on the team it does not mean Glenn could contribute. He is injured. His knee was never going to be 100% this season and a 50% or 80% Glenn is not that useful.
How do you treat a player like Glenn? Belichek suspended Glenn during a season when the Patriots needed a good receiver, yet the Pats still went on to win the SB. Green Bay traded Glenn away for a low draft pick when they needed a good receiver. Glenn was never that special and right now he is not healthy. Jerry's mistake was probably not cutting Glenn sooner.
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Tovya;2167262 said:
True but from the Cowboys view point maybe we did the right thing by cutting out loses. I like Terry but that knee is not going to get better and that really is something the Cowboys did not need to contend with during the season.
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joseephuss;2167743 said:
Glenn was "that special" to us regardless of what happened on other teams. If he can no longer play, so be it. But that doesn't diminish the fact that he was a VERY integral part of our offense for several years.
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Surely, you jest.Nors;2167546 said:
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Boyzmamacita;2167765 said:
I agree I have no complaints with Glenn and his time he has been with the Cowboys. I wish things could have been different in how it ended but with a condition like Terry has there was not much choice.
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Hostile;2167772 said:
How did a troll manage to get 20,000+ posts?
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The latest on the Glenn to Miami story. Sounds familiar.....
Glenn's arrival hinges on knee
The Dolphins can use an experienced receiver such as Terry Glenn, 34, but the Dolphins are unsure if his knee can handle another season.
Posted on Thu, Jul. 31, 2008
BY JEFF DARLINGTON
His arrival is still possible. Maybe even probable.
But if former Cowboys wide receiver Terry Glenn is going to rejoin his old coaches in Miami sometime soon, he is going to first need to prove his surgically repaired knee has the power of old as opposed to being, well, just plain old.
''I've had him for four or five years down there in Dallas, so I know the guy,'' said Dolphins coach Tony Sparano, previously the assistant head coach for the Cowboys. ``But I don't know about him right now.''
What Sparano means, you see, is that Glenn has been forced to endure a considerably rigorous rehabilitation since those not-so-long-ago days when he starred in that same offensive system in Dallas. He once was a major threat. But is he now?
At this point, the Dolphins remain very interested in signing Glenn -- interested enough that they could sign him at any point this week or next. But there still is a strong concern within the organization about Glenn's knee.
There is a belief that Glenn might not be able to fully participate right away in training camp as a result of lingering effects from his rehabilitation, which could also hinder his ability to pass a mandatory physical.
FUTURE SURGERY?
Although Glenn, 34, was able to return for the final two games of last season, his long-term prognosis might not be as optimistic. Doctors reportedly told Glenn last season that he eventually would require microfracture surgery, but they also told him it would be strong enough to still play on.
Nonetheless, those obvious concerns weren't enough to sway the opinion of Dolphins nose guard Jason Ferguson, who watched Glenn's rehabilitation firsthand last year in Dallas when the two were teammates.
''Would I love it? Yeah!'' Ferguson said. ``Why wouldn't I say that? That's one of the best receivers we had in Dallas. He's one of the best receivers I've seen play. He's a guy that would make an instant impact.''
That potential impact, even with a questionable knee, might still be enough to cause the Dolphins to sign Glenn to an incentive-based deal if he is healthy enough to pass his physical. The team is in solid shape with the salary cap, and it could also use some veteran leadership within a wide receiver corps that is laden with youth.
Even Ted Ginn Jr., who would ultimately be giving up repetitions to the veteran, seemed completely on board with the idea of Glenn joining the group.
''It would be great,'' Ginn said. ``Terry Glenn can come in here and give us points about different things. He's been in this league for a very long time, so it would be great to have him come in here.''
With the support of everyone from the wide receivers to the quarterbacks to Glenn's former teammates, the receiver's potential arrival isn't likely to come with any distractions. Instead, those already in Miami seem more infatuated with the idea of adding a player that totaled 1,047 yards in 2006 during his last healthy season.
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But as Sparano noted Wednesday morning, those are decisions that must be made by general manager Jeff Ireland and executive vice president of football operations Bill Parcells.
''The thing that I do know, I have two people upstairs that do their due diligence on any player out there,'' Sparano said. ``So I'm sure that Terry Glenn, or anybody else, would be treated the same that way. Jeff and Bill will do their due diligence that way. They'll turn over every stone one way or the other to try to make this football team better.''
By all means, it doesn't seem as if Parcells or Ireland will need to look too deeply into Glenn's past given his relationship with Parcells, who played in New England and Dallas under him.
Instead, Parcells and Ireland need to decide whether his knee can handle the stress of another season. Such confidence would likely be enough to spark a deal that has seemed inevitable since Glenn's release from Dallas last week.
''I'm sure it makes sense that you'd be interested because we know the guy,'' Sparano said. ``I mean, we know him. We've coached him. God, Bill has coached him for years.''
And if his knee checks out, Glenn likely will be back again for another one.
Glenn's arrival hinges on knee
The Dolphins can use an experienced receiver such as Terry Glenn, 34, but the Dolphins are unsure if his knee can handle another season.
Posted on Thu, Jul. 31, 2008
BY JEFF DARLINGTON
His arrival is still possible. Maybe even probable.
But if former Cowboys wide receiver Terry Glenn is going to rejoin his old coaches in Miami sometime soon, he is going to first need to prove his surgically repaired knee has the power of old as opposed to being, well, just plain old.
''I've had him for four or five years down there in Dallas, so I know the guy,'' said Dolphins coach Tony Sparano, previously the assistant head coach for the Cowboys. ``But I don't know about him right now.''
What Sparano means, you see, is that Glenn has been forced to endure a considerably rigorous rehabilitation since those not-so-long-ago days when he starred in that same offensive system in Dallas. He once was a major threat. But is he now?
At this point, the Dolphins remain very interested in signing Glenn -- interested enough that they could sign him at any point this week or next. But there still is a strong concern within the organization about Glenn's knee.
There is a belief that Glenn might not be able to fully participate right away in training camp as a result of lingering effects from his rehabilitation, which could also hinder his ability to pass a mandatory physical.
FUTURE SURGERY?
Although Glenn, 34, was able to return for the final two games of last season, his long-term prognosis might not be as optimistic. Doctors reportedly told Glenn last season that he eventually would require microfracture surgery, but they also told him it would be strong enough to still play on.
Nonetheless, those obvious concerns weren't enough to sway the opinion of Dolphins nose guard Jason Ferguson, who watched Glenn's rehabilitation firsthand last year in Dallas when the two were teammates.
''Would I love it? Yeah!'' Ferguson said. ``Why wouldn't I say that? That's one of the best receivers we had in Dallas. He's one of the best receivers I've seen play. He's a guy that would make an instant impact.''
That potential impact, even with a questionable knee, might still be enough to cause the Dolphins to sign Glenn to an incentive-based deal if he is healthy enough to pass his physical. The team is in solid shape with the salary cap, and it could also use some veteran leadership within a wide receiver corps that is laden with youth.
Even Ted Ginn Jr., who would ultimately be giving up repetitions to the veteran, seemed completely on board with the idea of Glenn joining the group.
''It would be great,'' Ginn said. ``Terry Glenn can come in here and give us points about different things. He's been in this league for a very long time, so it would be great to have him come in here.''
With the support of everyone from the wide receivers to the quarterbacks to Glenn's former teammates, the receiver's potential arrival isn't likely to come with any distractions. Instead, those already in Miami seem more infatuated with the idea of adding a player that totaled 1,047 yards in 2006 during his last healthy season.
KNOW YOUR SUBJECT
But as Sparano noted Wednesday morning, those are decisions that must be made by general manager Jeff Ireland and executive vice president of football operations Bill Parcells.
''The thing that I do know, I have two people upstairs that do their due diligence on any player out there,'' Sparano said. ``So I'm sure that Terry Glenn, or anybody else, would be treated the same that way. Jeff and Bill will do their due diligence that way. They'll turn over every stone one way or the other to try to make this football team better.''
By all means, it doesn't seem as if Parcells or Ireland will need to look too deeply into Glenn's past given his relationship with Parcells, who played in New England and Dallas under him.
Instead, Parcells and Ireland need to decide whether his knee can handle the stress of another season. Such confidence would likely be enough to spark a deal that has seemed inevitable since Glenn's release from Dallas last week.
''I'm sure it makes sense that you'd be interested because we know the guy,'' Sparano said. ``I mean, we know him. We've coached him. God, Bill has coached him for years.''
And if his knee checks out, Glenn likely will be back again for another one.
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Good, He needs to get out while he still can. He is going to push himself and end up in a wheel chair or something the rest of his life. He had a good career while it lasted. We now turn to our future.
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dmq;2167264 said:
He SHOULD get the microfacture surgery. He is risking a very painful retirement. Get the knee taking care of and move on.
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I think Jerry would have signed him had he agreed to the tender much earlier, rather than the moment before training camp. It's one thing to go into the season with a question at a position due to an injury, but to be at the point of the season starting and having to move forward at that point was where it laid. Time had just run out on Terry in Dallas and it was entirely his own fault for getting greedy in the beginning. He could've had that signed and been here had he just got off his duff.
I love it though how Jerry just basically smacked him across the face for being so slow and stupid in these negotiations. He really has no one to blame but himself. And now he's really gone and done it, Bill doesn't even want him. The guy truly is a first class moron and he proved it. Without Bill that little girl is just lost in the big bad world alone. Lost in NE after Bill left. Lost in GB. Lost in Dallas after Bill left. Now just alone and lost. But who knows, maybe a coaching spot will open up for him in Miami and all can be right again in his world for the most part.
I love it though how Jerry just basically smacked him across the face for being so slow and stupid in these negotiations. He really has no one to blame but himself. And now he's really gone and done it, Bill doesn't even want him. The guy truly is a first class moron and he proved it. Without Bill that little girl is just lost in the big bad world alone. Lost in NE after Bill left. Lost in GB. Lost in Dallas after Bill left. Now just alone and lost. But who knows, maybe a coaching spot will open up for him in Miami and all can be right again in his world for the most part.
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I agree 100% I mean how greedy can one person be? That was just foolish and if his agent was the one putting dreams in his head. He needs a new one because he had no leverage in those negotiations.