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Texas A&M move to SEC held up by legal threat
By JOHN ZENOR
AP Sports Writer

MONTGOMERY, Ala. (AP)
-- The Southeastern Conference cleared the way for Texas A&M to join its ranks - with a wrinkle.

At least one Big 12 school has threatened to sue if the Aggies leave the fold.

The announcement Wednesday that the SEC will make the Aggies the 13th SEC team once the legal issues are resolved is the latest step of a courtship which the Aggies initiated in July.

The SEC, which would become the first BCS conference with more than 12 members, said it received "unanimous written assurance" from the Big 12 on Sept. 2 that it was free to accept Texas A&M. The presidents and chancellors met late Tuesday "with the intention of accepting the application of Texas A&M to be the newest member of the SEC. "

Then the deal hit a snag.

"We were notified (Tuesday) afternoon that at least one Big 12 institution had withdrawn its previous consent and was considering legal action," said Florida President Bernie Machen, chairman of the SEC leaders. "The SEC has stated that to consider an institution for membership, there must be no contractual hindrances to its departure. The SEC voted unanimously to accept Texas A&M University as a member upon receiving acceptable reconfirmation that the Big 12 and its members have reaffirmed the letter dated September 2."

The Big 12 didn't say which school was threatening legal action. However, Mississippi State President Mark Keenum said it's "my understanding" that Baylor was the school holding up the move.

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I think Baylor stands to lose the most if The Big 12 falters...
 

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It will get done and Baylor will get some sort of compensation. Baylor knows the move is inevitable and just wants to get something in return. They could just let it go without saying anything or cry a little and get a little money.
 

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trickblue;4091755 said:
I think Baylor stands to lose the most if The Big 12 falters...

I agree. Of course they probably have brought the least to the Big 12 over the years.
 

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Baylor was lucky not to join TCU, SMU, Houston and Rice when the Big 12 was formed.
 

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joseephuss;4091778 said:
I agree. Of course they probably have brought the least to the Big 12 over the years.

In football, yes... but I think I read somewhere they're the most successful overall athletic program in the Big 12 over the last few years...
 

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trickblue;4091824 said:
In football, yes... but I think I read somewhere they're the most successful overall athletic program in the Big 12...

Football is all that matters. Well, not all, but it means the most. Not everything is weighed evenly. Football brings in the biggest revenue for most athletic departments.
 

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joseephuss;4091832 said:
Football is all that matters. Well, not all, but it means the most. Not everything is weighed evenly. Football brings in the biggest revenue for most athletic departments.

Oh... without a doubt... I was just sayin'...
 

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trickblue;4091824 said:
In football, yes... but I think I read somewhere they're the most successful overall athletic program in the Big 12 over the last few years...

I don't see how Baylor can get that title. They dominate tennis and have been the best in women's basketball recently, but the Aggies have won 8 national titles over the last three years. Baylor's average standing in the Director's Cup over the last three years is 33rd while Texas is 11th, Oklahoma is 17th and A&M is 9th. Nebraska was sitting somewhere between Oklahoma and Baylor, but all other Big 12 schools were behind Baylor.
 

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joseephuss;4091778 said:
I agree. Of course they probably have brought the least to the Big 12 over the years.
Not so, football is the sexy money maker which has definitely struggled up until recent but Baylor actually has the most Big 12 titles and National Championships collectively across sports behind only the University of Texas.


Basically Baylor is just making sure A&M pays top dollar for taking back their pledge less than a calendar year to be fully committed to the Big 12, if you don't enforce stiff penalties for voiding a contract then what is the point in having a contract or a conference.
 

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Baylor is really embarrassing themselves in all of this. They know this is going to happen eventually and this little charade is born out of anger and spite.

I'd like to add that Baylor didnt have a problem screwing over SMU and TCU when teh SWC fell apart. Their current stance is the definition of hypocricy.
 

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Aikbach;4091918 said:
Not so, football is the sexy money maker which has definitely struggled up until recent but Baylor actually has the most Big 12 titles and National Championships collectively across sports behind only the University of Texas.


Basically Baylor is just making sure A&M pays top dollar for taking back their pledge less than a calendar year to be fully committed to the Big 12, if you don't enforce stiff penalties for voiding a contract then what is the point in having a contract or a conference.

Where did you find your misinformation? Baylor ranks 5th behind UT, OU, NU and TAMU in conference titles and 7th in national titles.

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&&DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=205160610

http://www.big12sports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?&DB_OEM_ID=10410&ATCLID=1524174
 

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Cythim;4091780 said:
Baylor was lucky not to join TCU, SMU, Houston and Rice when the Big 12 was formed.
This is the kind of obnoxiousness that will make Aggie jokes all the rage in the SEC, if you were true winners you'd be content on your achievements as opposed to trying to demean others in an effort to puff yourself up. if you were secure in the big bad state school with contractual oil revenue that it doesn't share with anyone but UT (who it is positively paranoid about) then that little ol' private school founded by the Republic of Texas wouldn't bother you, you'd be able to appreciate their achievements given their size and resources but alas you cannot because you're not truly secure in what A&M has done with itself considering it's supposed largely self proclaimed excellence.

Show some sportsmanship, lord knows you'll be calling for it in the SEC during football season, it's going to be humble pie that might make you yearn for the Dennis Franchione years.

The Baylor football program indeed struggled in the first 10 years of the Big 12, partly because of an inability to get a good coach after Grant Teaff, but also they were invited to the Big 12 because they were so consistent under Teaff they had a reputation as a top 25 contender for the 20 year prior to Big 12 play, and obviously in other sports continued to excel so please stop trying to demean others and just mind your own ship.

Baylor isn't enhanced by dumping on A&M and A&M isn't enhanced by dumping on Baylor, it just makes you look petty.

Both are ranked opponents right now, a shame the conference looks to be endangered seeming how competitive the Big 12 South seems to be.
 

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Aikbach;4091938 said:
This is the kind of obnoxiousness that will make Aggie jokes all the rage in the SEC, if you were true winners you'd be content on your achievements as opposed to trying to demean others in an effort to puff yourself up. if you were secure in the big bad state school with contractual oil revenue that it doesn't share with anyone but UT (who it is positively paranoid about) then that little ol' private school founded by the Republic of Texas wouldn't bother you, you'd be able to appreciate their achievements given their size and resources but alas you cannot because you're not truly secure in what A&M has done with itself considering it's supposed largely self proclaimed excellence.

Show some sportsmanship, lord knows you'll b e calling for it in the SEC during football season, it's going to be humble pie that might make you yearn for Dennis Franchione years.

The Baylor football program indeed struggled in the first 10 years of the Big 12, partly because of an inability to get a good coach after Grant Teaff, but also because they were so consistent under Teaff they had a reputation as a top 245 contender for the 20 year prior to Big 12 play, and obviously in other sports continued to excel so please stop trying to demean others and just mind your own ship.

Baylor isn't enhanced by dumping on A&M and A&M isn't enhanced by dumping on Baylor, it just makes you look petty.

Both are ranked opponents right now, a shame the conference looks to be endangered seeming how competitive the Big 12 South seems to be.

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I'm just stating facts. Why did Baylor get to tag along over schools in Houston and Dallas?
 

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Cythim;4091946 said:


I'm just stating facts. Why did Baylor get to tag along over schools in Houston and Dallas?
Well you cetainly haven't gone out of your way to prove that you're not rightfully perceived as petty and juvenile.

Like i said, enjoy the mediocrity of your time in the SEC and reminiscing about the good ol' days under Dennis Franchione, i wonder what the likes of LSU, Auburn, Florida and Alabama and soon enough Tennessee are going to think about the Texas obsession woven into your fight song? I suspect they'll be ruing the day they permitted expansion, one that inevitably will lead to the SEC likely breaking up in due course as well.

What's so sadly myopic about A&M is that they think others want to mimic them, i assure you that's not the case in any way shape or form, you're welcome to go the SEC, but you're not going to be any more respected than you already aren't, mainly because you don't give respect and you certainly haven't earned any, particularly in terms of sportsmanship as seen here.
 

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Cythim;4091946 said:


I'm just stating facts. Why did Baylor get to tag along over schools in Houston and Dallas?
Well undoubtedly politics, you're an idiot if you don't think that's what obviouslyrevolves all of this world, Grant Teaff is repected and in high places and Baylor was good at the time.

I think a better question is why didn't Jackie Sherril ultimately get A&M the death penalty instead of SMU which would've completely left them out of any viable conference? Oh that's right politics, see how that works?

When you're big politicking isn't cheating even if you're cheating, if you're little and you poliitck you are whining.

It's fitting your mascot is a bi@tch because that's exactly all you guys do.
 

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Cythim;4091946 said:
http://www.rattlingaroundinmyhead.com/webonizer_media/1/image/pjpeg/art_1_147_3_waaa-aaahhh.jpg

I'm just stating facts. Why did Baylor get to tag along over schools in Houston and Dallas?
Well undoubtedly politics, you're an idiot if you don't think that's what obviouslyrevolves all of this world, Grant Teaff is repected and in high places and Baylor was good at the time.

I think a better question is why didn't Jackie Sherril ultimately get A&M the death penalty instead of SMU which would've completely left them out of any viable conference? Oh that's right politics, see how that works?

When you're big politicking isn't cheating even if you're cheating, if you're little and you poliitck you are whining.

It's fitting your mascot is a bi@tch because that's exactly all you guys do.
 

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Aikbach;4091999 said:
Well you cetainly haven't gone out of your way to prove that you're not rightfully perceived as petty and juvenile.

Like i said, enjoy the mediocrity of your time in the SEC and reminiscing about the good ol' days under Dennis Franchione, i wonder what the likes of LSU, Auburn, Florida and Alabama and soon enough Tennessee are going to think about the Texas obsession woven into your fight song? I suspect they'll be ruing the day they permitted expansion, one that inevitably will lead to the SEC likely breaking up in due course as well.

What's so sadly myopic about A&M is that they think others want to mimic them, i assure you that's not the case in any way shape or form, you're welcome to go the SEC, but you're not going to be any more respected than you already aren't, mainly because you don't give respect and you certainly haven't earned any, particularly in terms of sportsmanship as seen here.

Right, you were the clown running your mouth last year about Baylor running roughshod over the Aggies and winning the Big 12 South. I remember you disappearing quickly after the Aggies turned that game around. Don't talk to me about sportsmanship or respect when you and Baylor do nothing to earn either.

Enjoy your future of being dominated in C-USA.
 

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Aikbach;4092015 said:
Well undoubtedly politics, you're an idiot if you don't think that's what obviouslyrevolves all of this world, Grant Teaff is repected and in high places and Baylor was good at the time.

I think a better question is why didn't Jackie Sherril ultimately get A&M the death penalty instead of SMU which would've completely left them out of any viable conference? Oh that's right politics, see how that works?

When you're big politicking isn't cheating even if you're cheating, if you're little and you poliitck you are whining.

It's fitting your mascot is a bi@tch because that's exactly all you guys do.

It is obvious you have deep contempt for the Aggies. You should go cool off before you blow a gasket.
 
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