Texas A&M move to SEC held up by legal threat...

[Aikbach]

*Yawn*

Baylor and Iowa State are trying to argue that a group statement from the conference that they agreed to is not the same as individual signed waivers. Legally, they are right, but it's bush league and they know it. Forgive us for expecting a reputable univeristy to not shame itself in the name of hate.

Every asinine post you've made to date is from the myopia of aggie land, you're not even in tune to how you are perceived nationally, only how you wish to be perceived. You are looked at unfavorably by the SEC fanbase, not respected by the Big 12 fans and as seen by portions of the national press being called out for hypocrisy, you get to go to the SEC, you just don't get to do it with integrity or with any reasonable motivation, you destroyed that opportunity and have been called out for it, so now you attempt to spin a rationale. None exists, you betrayed your commitment, your president patently lied about a universal waiver, and it was all motivated by a jealousy of UT's additional cable revenue, a deal A&M investigated for itself unsuccessfully.

Get your head out of the sand, or worse yet your anatomy.

 

[The30YardSlant]

Despite blocs of words trying to deny it A&M is in a genuine legal pickle and your supposed justification of UT's network is weak and made disingenuous by the fact A&M sought their own and couldn't get a deal they liked.

Again, not even close to factual

So now A&M gets to leave the Big 12 bitterly and with a huge hit before they partake of a conference that will whip up on them and soon have them searching for yet another one so they can save face.

You are so out of touch. Baylorfans talking points are unbecoming of you.

 

[Aikbach]

Literally nothing about this is even remotely correct. Even the monetary number for Texas' deal is wrong. You literally couldnt have slipped more incorrect statements into so few chracters had you actively been trying to do so. A&M never seriously pursued our own network, nor did they try and make a joint venture with Texas as some have insinuated.



We honored our commitment right up until the point at which Texas stopped honoring theirs. And again, that is essentially irrelevant because nothing was ever put in writing. Do you not understand how the law works? No legal documentation means there is nothing keeping the agreement together but the word of the individual or institutution, and in this case Texas broke their word. Now we've broken ours. Finally, once again, this is not the legal rout Baylor is pursuing anyway. Baylor is threatening the SEC with litigation, not A&M. Baylor has publically expressed this is about keeping the conference together, not getting an exit fee from A&M.

I'm baffled at how you are able to stack falsehood on top of falsehood without so much as skipping a beat to consider the facts.

You're divorced from reality, we've established that, rinse and repeat. Now go figure out which SEC team to obsess about in your new fight song.

You got your nose bloodied in a legal scrimmage of your own making, boohoo, how dare you be called out for being negligent to your commitments.

But obviously you've decided in another dimension that just didn't happen, facts be damned.

 

[Aikbach]

Again, not even close to factual



You are so out of touch. Baylorfans talking points are unbecoming of you.

Great rebuttal, so filled with facts and sources, do a quick google search and wipe the egg off your face.

A&M failed their commitments, Baylor has the number 3 litigation program in the nation, they don't pull it out haphazardly, they call upon that talent when there's a case not to show off to an ag school that got their feelings hurt over not being able to match a cable deal.

A&M and or the SEC will pay a big check to the remaining Big 12 schools for their failure to honor their commitments, end of story.

 

[Rogah]

Eh, these lawsuits are run of the mill. I remember how funny it was when BC sued to keep Syracuse in the Big East when everyone thought Syracuse was headed to the ACC along with VA Tech and Miami. Then BC was the one who got one of the invites. Funny how quickly they dropped their lawsuit.

 

[The30YardSlant]

You're divorced from reality, we've established that, rinse and repeat. Now go figure out which SEC team to obsess about in your new fight song.

You got your nose bloodied in a legal scrimmage of your own making, boohoo, how dare you be called out for being negligent to your commitments.

But obviously you've decided in another dimension that just didn't happen, facts be damned.

There is clearly no reasoning with you. You're either a liar or so out of touch with reality that nothing. Some of the things yu are saying are so far out in left field that I'm literally baffled to be reading them.

 

[Aikbach]

Eh, these lawsuits are run of the mill. I remember how funny it was when BC sued to keep Syracuse in the Big East when everyone thought Syracuse was headed to the ACC along with VA Tech and Miami. Then BC was the one who got one of the invites. Funny how quickly they dropped their lawsuit.

Well what's so amusing about A&M is the premise of their fanbase for justifying the negation of the their contract is that the Longhorns have a network and that makes it void.

A&M has some fine programs, law not being among them and here it shows, enter the school known for producing doctors and lawyers and calling them out.

If A&M were genuinely concerned about other schools having revenue slighted from them by the Longhorn network then they wouldn't actively lobby the Texas legislator to keep them grandfathered in an archaic piece of legislation that only gives oil revenue to UT and A&M and not a single dime to any other state school such as Texas Tech or Texas State or any other portion of the UT system, for some reason they don't have a problem with keeping that revenue from being shared evenly.

Fact is they tried to get a cable contract comparable to UT and couldn't, they hate leaving in the shadow of UT so they bolted and did it prematurely, not meeting all the conditions, and a mere year after promising hteir commitment to the Big 12 and I quote them:

"Texas A&M is a proud member of the Big 12 Conference and will continue to be affiliated with the conference in the future. As athletics director Bill Byrne and I have stated on numerous occasions, our hope and desire was for the Big 12 to continue. We are committed to the Big 12 and its success today and into the future."

...unless UT does something we can't copy for revenue apparently.

 

[Aikbach]

There is clearly no reasoning with you. You're either a liar or so out of touch with reality that nothing. Some of the things yu are saying are so far out in left field that I'm literally baffled to be reading them.

You must be reading your own posts then.

 

[Cythim]

There is clearly no reasoning with you. You're either a liar or so out of touch with reality that nothing. Some of the things yu are saying are so far out in left field that I'm literally baffled to be reading them.

You are absolutely right on your analysis. You should do as I did, just ignore him when he tries to talk college sports. I should have remembered his ranting about how awesome the Baylor football program was last year. Remember, this is the same clown that stated:

"Baylor actually has the most Big 12 titles and National Championships collectively across sports behind only the University of Texas."

He has spewed nothing but lies and vitriol all over this thread because he has so much contempt for TAMU. It is a shame such a small mind could come out of such a fine institution has Baylor.

 

[Aikbach]

You are absolutely right on your analysis. You should do as I did, just ignore him when he tries to talk college sports. I should have remembered his ranting about how awesome the Baylor football program was last year. Remember, this is the same clown that stated:

"Baylor actually has the most Big 12 titles and National Championships collectively across sports behind only the University of Texas."

He has spewed nothing but lies and vitriol all over this thread because he has so much contempt for TAMU. It is a shame such a small mind could come out of such a fine institution has Baylor.

It would be more civil in here if you didn't post, that is for certain, I'd ask you to make a promise but given the pedigree you hail from what good is a commitment from you.

 

[Cythim]

Let's see. #20 football team in the country. #9 MBB team in the country. #1 WBB team in the country. Top 10 Men and Women's tennis. Top 10 Softball team. Top 25 baseball team. What am I missing here? Why is Baylor looked at like the little dog? This is 2011, not 1998. Baylor is a force to be reckoned with in athletics now and will be just fine if the Big XII dissolves.

In the mean time your cowardly institution is going to pay big money for betraying it's contract.

Where are you coming up with these rankings? The football ranking is correct, but #9 in men's basketball? Is that some kind of Baylor student poll? You didn't even get a vote for the final Top 25, AP or ESPN, and as far as I can tell no preseason poll is out yet.

#1 in Women's BB? TAMU won the championship and once again no preseason polls are out yet.

Which baseball poll are you looking at? None of them have you in the top 25.

Tennis and softball, congrats! TAMU won the last three national championships in men's and women's outdoor T&F while finishing in the top 5 for indoor T&F.

Stop lying to yourself about how good your school is. You are just in front of OkSt as the 4th best athletic program over the last three years (5th if you count Nebraska). Come back with something real next time.

 

[Cythim]

It would be more civil in here if you didn't post, that is for certain, I'd ask you to make a promise but given the pedigree you hail from what good is a commitment from you.

It is so nice of you to make assumptions about me. I grew up an Aggie fan but was actually planning on attending Baylor before I joined the military (money and getting out of dodge being the contributing factors). TAMU isn't the place to go if you want an actual education. I've been quite civil, but you have done nothing but hate and lie and forced me to call you out on the garbage you have littered this thread with.

 

[DIAF]

This thread is a complete waste of time and utter garbage. I feel stupid having read all 4 pages of it.

 

[Aikbach]

Where are you coming up with these rankings? The football ranking is correct, but #9 in men's basketball? Is that some kind of Baylor student poll? You didn't even get a vote for the final Top 25, AP or ESPN, and as far as I can tell no preseason poll is out yet.

#1 in Women's BB? TAMU won the championship and once again no preseason polls are out yet.

Which baseball poll are you looking at? None of them have you in the top 25.

Tennis and softball, congrats! TAMU won the last three national championships in men's and women's outdoor T&F while finishing in the top 5 for indoor T&F.

Stop lying to yourself about how good your school is. You are just in front of OkSt as the 4th best athletic program over the last three years (5th if you count Nebraska). Come back with something real next time.

Lol, you truly are obsessed with comparing yourself to Baylor, can't simply let achievements speak for themselves. Relax, sports are supposed to be fun.

Any goading I've done is in response to your asinine attitude, once again witnessed in your above remarks, despite a quick scan of multiple reputable websites will clarify ranks despite your claim that it's otherwise.

This is why people dislike A&M, they are constantly trying to compare themselves to others and demean others instead of just being themselves and comfortable in their own skin.

If A&M was comfortable with it's position and performance it would be content to stay in the Big 12 South, because it thinks it has something to prove it has sought to leave despite a commitment to the other.

Like I said from the very beginning dumping on Baylor won't promote A&M nor vice versa.

But I'm not the one trying to demean others to build myself up, I'm comfortable with what Baylor is and isn't. it's not a state school, it's not going to be a consistent BCS favorite because of that limitation, but it is a contender and it's fortunes aren't soured or bettered by Texas A&M's. successes or failures unless it's a head to head contest.

Politics are at work and because of existing contracts A&M will have to pay a bunch of money for not staying the course, all there is to it, nothing conspiring against them.

 

[Cythim]

Lol, you truly are obsessed with comparing yourself to Baylor, can't simply let achievements speak for themselves. Relax, sports are supposed to be fun.

Any goading I've done is in response to your asinine attitude, once again witnessed in your above remarks, despite a quick scan of multiple reputable websites will clarify ranks despite your claim that it's otherwise.

This is why people dislike A&M, they are constantly trying to compare themselves to others and demean others instead of just being themselves and comfortable in their own skin.

If A&M was comfortable with it's position and performance it would be content to stay in the Big 12 South, because it thinks it has something to prove it has sought to leave despite a commitment to the other.

Like I said from the very beginning dumping on Baylor won't promote A&M nor vice versa.

But I'm not the one trying to demean others to build myself up, I'm comfortable with what Baylor is and isn't. it's not a state school, it's not going to be a consistent BCS favorite because of that limitation, but it is a contender and it's fortunes aren't soured or bettered by Texas A&M's. successes or failures unless it's a head to head contest.

Politics are at work and because of existing contracts A&M will have to pay a bunch of money for not staying the course, all there is to it, nothing conspiring against them.

I'm going to skip past the hypocritical slander and get straight to the BS. Which reputible websites have your men's BB program ranked #9? You were 8th in the Big 12 last year and didn't play in any of the post season tournaments. Your program was on the rise until that whole 2003 fiasco and has done a remarkable job of bouncing back (thankfully you didn't get the death penalty). You had a good 2010 tournament but that doesn't put your program at #9. The polls you are aluding to must be preseason polls, but where are they?

And this isn't about knocking on your program, I like to see all Texas schools perform well. I am sticking to the facts and the polls that are provided by ncaa.com. This is about exposing you as someone who has no clue what he is talking about.

 

[Aikbach]

Kansas, Kansas St. want to join suit possibly and Texas Tech also refused waiver, Beebe screwed up with his claim as half of the schools have not signed a waiver, much money will be owed:

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...ig-12-schools-to-join-baylor-in-legal-action/

 

[The30YardSlant]

A&M has some fine programs, law not being among them and here it shows, enter the school known for producing doctors and lawyers and calling them out.

Only three undergrad schools in the entire nation produce more lawyers annually than Texas A&M. The fact that we don't have a law school is irrelevant because so many people loyal to A&M become lawyers. There are currently more licensed lawyers who completed their undergrad at A&M than the entire number of students Baylor has graduated in the last 10 years. That's what happens when your living alumni base numbers nearly half a million.

 

[The30YardSlant]

http://outkickthecoverage.com/why-baylors-claims-against-the-sec-have-no-merit.php

 

[Aikbach]

Only three undergrad schools in the entire nation produce more lawyers annually than Texas A&M. The fact that we don't have a law school is irrelevant because so many people loyal to A&M become lawyers. There are currently more licensed lawyers who completed their undergrad at A&M than the entire number of students Baylor has graduated in the last 10 years. That's what happens when your living alumni base numbers nearly half a million.

So you emphasize quantity over quality, big whoop, literally since you're an aggie. Baylor is nationally renowned for it's law school and has more kids pass the bar the first try than any other Texas school. But as for aggie lawyers educated at other law schools, better call on them because now reports say 8 of the 9 remaining teams are ganging up, better hope Ken Starr doesn't treat aggie administration like Bill Clinton:
http://espn.go.com/college-sports/s...-aggies-accepted-sec-legal-threat-delays-move

 

[Aikbach]

http://outkickthecoverage.com/why-baylors-claims-against-the-sec-have-no-merit.php

Lol, what kind of news source is this? I can point to SI, Sporting news and ESPN articles PRAISING Baylor, so good luck with this fringe article as some sort of vindication.